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Prodigal_Son1
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Thank you.
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estesbob
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Yes. My personal opinion is one who does so is helping to elect the pro-abortion candidate but the Church does not require us to base our vote on viability.
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estesbob
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*No, you can never vote for someone who favors absolutely what’s called the ‘right to choice’ of a woman to destroy human life in her womb, or the right to a procured abortion," he said.
“You may in some circumstances where you don’t have any candidate who is proposing to eliminate all abortion, choose the candidate who will most limit this grave evil in our country, but you could never justify voting for a candidate who not only does not want to limit abortion but believes that it should be available to everyone,” he said.*
*Cardinal Burke
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Big_Ro
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At the risk of putting too fine a point on things…The Iranians are not Arabs. they are persians.
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miguel
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At least you seem willing to concede that Iran with nukes is dangerous. That’s why I think Ron Paul’s position on this point is debatable. Whether we should commit troops to stop them is something I would like to hear debated vigorously minus the usual ad hominem.
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ppeter
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[SIGN]I’m in too![/SIGN] I too have recently decided to back Paul for president.
I’m no longer comfortable with the idea that political realism demands that I vote for someone who proudly promises to use the presidency to do intrinsic evil. That goes for abortion or “gay marriage” or torture or endless war. I don’t want to endanger my eternal salvation and that of others for politics.
As for “gay marriage”: this is a tough one, I admit. But our country has made a mess of marriage. No-fault divorce has ruined the institution. There is the marriage penalty in the tax code. Why is the state in this business at all? True, the Church says marriage is a public thing that has a right to civil protection, but our federal government is not currently doing that. “Gay marriage” in some form will eventually be forced upon us. It seems to me that if the Church were able to set the terms of the Catholic civil marriage contract (similar to the “covenant” marriages that already exist in some states), our marriages would actually mean something in our public life and could actually be protected and backed up in the civil courts.
Paul has repeatedly said he wants protections for those who don’t want to have to approve of “gay marriage”. That is a lot more than the other Republicans can give us, once the DOMA is struck down as unconstitutional, and it will be.
Both parties have blood on their hands. Our country is headed into the toilet, and the other candidates are not offering real solutions. We need something revolutionary to get us back on track. If we don’t start thinking outside the box, our country is going down in a big way.
If enough people decide to stop the evil being done in their name, we can stop it. I admit it’s a long shot, but I don’t see any other candidate contemplating the kind of reforms we desperately need.
I’m no longer comfortable with the idea that political realism demands that I vote for someone who proudly promises to use the presidency to do intrinsic evil. That goes for abortion or “gay marriage” or torture or endless war. I don’t want to endanger my eternal salvation and that of others for politics.
As for “gay marriage”: this is a tough one, I admit. But our country has made a mess of marriage. No-fault divorce has ruined the institution. There is the marriage penalty in the tax code. Why is the state in this business at all? True, the Church says marriage is a public thing that has a right to civil protection, but our federal government is not currently doing that. “Gay marriage” in some form will eventually be forced upon us. It seems to me that if the Church were able to set the terms of the Catholic civil marriage contract (similar to the “covenant” marriages that already exist in some states), our marriages would actually mean something in our public life and could actually be protected and backed up in the civil courts.
Paul has repeatedly said he wants protections for those who don’t want to have to approve of “gay marriage”. That is a lot more than the other Republicans can give us, once the DOMA is struck down as unconstitutional, and it will be.
Both parties have blood on their hands. Our country is headed into the toilet, and the other candidates are not offering real solutions. We need something revolutionary to get us back on track. If we don’t start thinking outside the box, our country is going down in a big way.
If enough people decide to stop the evil being done in their name, we can stop it. I admit it’s a long shot, but I don’t see any other candidate contemplating the kind of reforms we desperately need.
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gilliam
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Ron Paul finished just 152 votes behind Michele Bachmann in the Ames Straw Poll, but from the headlines and TV news coverage, it’s hard to tell he even showed up.
With the exception of The New York Times and The Des Moines Register, most major newspaper headlines didn’t even mention his name in their reports of Saturday’s contest. Nor was he anywhere to be found on the Sunday morning talk shows.
By Monday’s second-day stories, Paul had disappeared from the prevailing narrative of the Republican primary race altogether, as consensus coalesced around the dynamics between Bachmann, newcomer Rick Perry and front-runner Mitt Romney.
“We are certainly disappointed, and we think that people are missing a very big story here,” said Jesse Benton, Paul’s campaign manager. “You look at ’07, and Mike Huckabee was able to turn what was a very weak second place — Mitt Romney had 4,516 votes and Huckabee had 2,587 — into a huge national story.”
Read more: politico.com/news/stories/0811/61430.html#ixzz1VCOnCFuF
With the exception of The New York Times and The Des Moines Register, most major newspaper headlines didn’t even mention his name in their reports of Saturday’s contest. Nor was he anywhere to be found on the Sunday morning talk shows.
By Monday’s second-day stories, Paul had disappeared from the prevailing narrative of the Republican primary race altogether, as consensus coalesced around the dynamics between Bachmann, newcomer Rick Perry and front-runner Mitt Romney.
“We are certainly disappointed, and we think that people are missing a very big story here,” said Jesse Benton, Paul’s campaign manager. “You look at ’07, and Mike Huckabee was able to turn what was a very weak second place — Mitt Romney had 4,516 votes and Huckabee had 2,587 — into a huge national story.”
Read more: politico.com/news/stories/0811/61430.html#ixzz1VCOnCFuF
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gilliam
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Ron Paul campaign: ‘Virtually zero chance’ of third-party bid t.co/4EIUdWL
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kubark
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The lesser of two evils is always an evil. It was the “lesser of two evils” principle that Catholics used to justify their support for George W. Bush. Disgust with Bush gave us Obama who was elected not so much on his own merits but in a vote of protest against John McCain - who too closely reminded a war-weary populace of the reckless, wasteful and unconstitutional policies of George W. Bush. Catholics are about to repeat the same mistake in 2012. Catholics should have rallied around Pat Buchanan in 2000 and around Ron Paul in 2012. Instead Catholics are being hypnotized by Romney/Perry. Catholics have decided the last two Presidents. Catholics will determine the next President. It is time for Catholics to start acting and voting like Catholics. And when you think about it, Ron Paul is really the most pro-life candidate. To determine the pro-life status of any candidate, one must look not only at the issues of abortion, euthanansia, stem-cells, etc. but ALSO at the candidate’s foreign policy. When you take a comprehensive view of “pro-life” you quickly realize that Ron Paul is the best candidate and has the voting record to prove it. Remember, the lesser of two evils is always an evil. If faced with voting for Obama or an establishment Republican, I think the only moral option for a Catholic would be to write in Ron Paul. Remember, “pro-life” covers much more than beginning of life and end of life. Remember, the Constitution matters. And remember, Catholics will be the deciding factor in the next election.
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agnes_therese
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The media’s problem is that with Ron Paul, you need to actually think. A lot of people find that too tiring. The media’s all about the quick sound-bite or eye-catching photo.
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estesbob
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I suspect if he ever polls out of single digits he might get more attention. . The truth is he gets far more attention than his standing in the polls would seem to merit. . For instance he polls about the same as Herman Cain and receives about 10 times attention.
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kubark
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Of course there will be a media-blackout of Ron Paul. He is a mortal threat to the special interests that have run our country into the ground. He take’s the Constitution and Conservatism seriously and has the voting record to prove it. The Left hate Ron Paul for his stance on abortion and fiscal issues. The Right hate him for his foreign policy. Both Left and Right hate him for putting America First rather than Israel First. Unfortunately, it seems that Americans do not get to choose their President. Unfortunately, it seems that the elites determine who is most “electable” and then the peasants get to choose.
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ANNE_2
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Unfortunately rather than just “reporting” the truth, in many cases the secular media just wants to influence the outcome of elections.
This is evidenced by their evil reporting against the public prayers of Texas Gov. Rick Perry for the USA.
This is evidenced by their evil reporting against the public prayers of Texas Gov. Rick Perry for the USA.
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Scott_Lafrance
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What if Jon Stewart decries the media neglect of Ron Paul?
runronpaul.com/mainstream-media/jon-stewart-scolds-media-for-ignoring-rep-ron-paul-%E2%80%98i-mean-fck-that-guy-right%E2%80%99/
runronpaul.com/mainstream-media/jon-stewart-scolds-media-for-ignoring-rep-ron-paul-%E2%80%98i-mean-fck-that-guy-right%E2%80%99/
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estesbob
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Well I guess it could be a massive conspiracy but it would appear the problem is he polls at only about 7%. .
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tomarin
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I know this will sound unkind, but this is the kind of post that makes Ron Paul supporters sound like they live in a parallel universe. Putting Israel first? Sheesh.
I think Ron Paul is an interesting character but he has a lot of opinions that are way outside the mainstream of American politics. That’s what makes him both interesting and something of a fringe candidate.
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kubark
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Ron Paul came in 152 votes behind Bachmann and all we heard all weekend was Bachmann, Perry, Romney; crickets for Ron Paul. Perry got more media attention simply for announcing his candidacy than Ron Paul got for finishing second the Iowa straw poll. But no, there’s no conspiracy here. Media “polls” do not decide elections, the people decide elections. Charles Krauthammer should not decide elections, the people should decide elections.
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kubark
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“Parralel universe” + “sheesh” = fallacious attempt at an argument. Please define “mainstream” and “fringe”.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Not only did they treat Paul as invisible, they gave more credibility to Rick Santorum…who placed worse than Tim Pawlenty…who dropped out because of the results of the straw poll.
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