Catholics for Ron Paul Coalition

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I agree that if the present and the future were like the past in every respect, Paul would have little chance.
But have you noticed that times are changing?
As the English journalist James Delingpole recently tweeted, “Does anyone else realise this is it, the end, game over?”
I think you woefully underestimate the drama of the current collapse and the revolutionary feeling in the country. If the party leadership do the same, they’re simply doomed.
 
I agree that if the present and the future were like the past in every respect, Paul would have little chance.
But have you noticed that times are changing?
As the English journalist James Delingpole recently tweeted, “Does anyone else realise this is it, the end, game over?”
I think you woefully underestimate the drama of the current collapse and the revolutionary feeling in the country. If the party leadership do the same, they’re simply doomed.
Naw. Paul is still polling less than 10% nationally amongst Republicans, so he will never be the nominee.
 
I’m in for Ron Paul. Bases his votes on the constitution and seems to be the only person in Washington that understands the concept of sound money.

I’m tired of hearing about the lesser of two evils,evil is evil.
 
Naw. Paul is still polling less than 10% nationally amongst Republicans, so he will never be the nominee.
So, what you are saying is that the GOP would rather nominate a candidate that will alienate the middle and potential cross-over pro-life democrats?
 
So, what you are saying is that the GOP would rather nominate a candidate that will alienate the middle and potential cross-over pro-life democrats?
.The idea that a strict libertarian who even questions the legitimacy of the Civil Rights Act is somehow going to attract disaffected Democrats to vote for him is specious.
 
One thing I have noticed about Libertarians is their devotion to the Constitution of the US and how its continually being violated.

I would like to ask one thing: IF the Constitution very clearly were to say that the unborn were to have no rights whatsoever under the law, would Libertarians here say abortion is unconstitutional and as such that the unborn were to have no right to life?

I don’t believe that we should be held hostage to a document that prevents us from doing what is morally correct.
 
Please actually read the whole poll before reacting to the nuanced statment I made:
Something else that needs to be considered in these polls. These numbers are indicative of the situation now, where the national media has been omitting Ron Paul as a candidate and therefore, many do not know him or what he stands for. All they have to go on is innuendo. Jon Stewart called him the thirteenth floor of a hotel. The fact is, he beat everyone but Bachman when he has had a chance to campaign. This is why I have no respect for the crystal-ball mentality of those who claim to know what will and what won’t happen, no respect at all for such people.
 
Something else that needs to be considered in these polls. These numbers are indicative of the situation now, where the national media has been omitting Ron Paul as a candidate and therefore, many do not know him or what he stands for. All they have to go on is innuendo. Jon Stewart called him the thirteenth floor of a hotel. The fact is, he beat everyone but Bachman when he has had a chance to campaign. This is why I have no respect for the crystal-ball mentality of those who claim to know what will and what won’t happen, no respect at all for such “reasoning”.
 
Something else that needs to be considered in these polls. These numbers are indicative of the situation now, where the national media has been omitting Ron Paul as a candidate and therefore, many do not know him or what he stands for. All they have to go on is innuendo. Jon Stewart called him the thirteenth floor of a hotel. The fact is, he beat everyone but Bachman when he has had a chance to campaign. This is why I have no respect for the crystal-ball mentality of those who claim to know what will and what won’t happen, no respect at all for such “reasoning”.
Actually, people are very familiar with Paul’s views. They just disagree with them. Click to enlarge.
 
I like Ron Paul’s foreign policy, but I have questions on his domestic agenda. There was a recent article in the news about how he is heavily invested in gold mine stocks.
 
One thing I have noticed about Libertarians is their devotion to the Constitution of the US and how its continually being violated.

I would like to ask one thing: IF the Constitution very clearly were to say that the unborn were to have no rights whatsoever under the law, would Libertarians here say abortion is unconstitutional and as such that the unborn were to have no right to life?

I don’t believe that we should be held hostage to a document that prevents us from doing what is morally correct.
Simple solution. Pass a law that gives declares personhood to begin at conception, thereby granting equal protection under the Constitution. Problem solved.
 
I like Ron Paul’s foreign policy, but I have questions on his domestic agenda. There was a recent article in the news about how he is heavily invested in gold mine stocks.
He is invested in one of the things that has been considered “money” since the beginning of time. Imagine that! Do consider it more valid that the Fed chairman can just make a few keystrokes and “create” billions of dollars out of thin air?
 
He is invested in one of the things that has been considered “money” since the beginning of time. Imagine that! Do consider it more valid that the Fed chairman can just make a few keystrokes and “create” billions of dollars out of thin air?
Gold may have been considered money, but not a gold mine.
 
So, what you are saying is that the GOP would rather nominate a candidate that will alienate the middle and potential cross-over pro-life democrats?
There are technically potential crossover pro-life Democrats. In the same sense, there is a potential that Jesse “the Mind” Ventura will win the White House in November 2012. Anyone left in the Democratic party is not possessed of an anti-abortion conscience deserving of the name.

For myself, I noticed at some point that primary voters spend way too much time obsessing how “viable” their preferred candidates are – i.e., how many other primary voters are going to vote for various candidates. Since everyone is predicting what everyone else is going to do, we end up with millions and millions of people abandoning candidates they like and who otherwise would win outright because they’ve psyched each other out of voting for said candidates. Then we get John McCain. Yippity-skip.

So, this year, I decided that everyone at the primary should just plop their butts down and vote for the candidate they think would make the best president of the United States. In November, I’ll vote for the electable pro-life, defined as “the guy at the top of the GOP ticket.” But, for now, I am just a citizen of the United States, one of three hundred million persons entrusted with the sacred duty of upholding the Constitution, ensuring the execution of all the laws, and building the best possible government, filled with men and women of wisdom and reverence who will safeguard the Republic throughout my generation. My job, in that role, is to work to put the best possible person at the top of that ticket, and trust my fellow Americans to come to agree with me this fall.

I’m not super-thrilled with any of the candidates right now, on account of none of them being me, but for the moment Paul has my vote. Perry would be a reasonably close second. Perry will probably win. But in this historically anti-establishment year, I don’t think it’s time to count Paul out.

One more thing: the thing to know about American independents is that, unlike those of us in the parties, independents don’t respond strongly to particular policy positions. In fact, although a few of them have idiosyncratic special interests, independents as a whole are largely indifferent to a candidate’s ideology. That’s why they’re not in a party. That’s also why they can swing from George W. Bush to Barack Obama in the space of four years. Independents are instead looking for a loose collection of intangibles: stature, vision, voice, courage, intelligence, leadership, virtue, and – above all – consistent, measured conviction. You don’t cater to independents by handing them a muddled “moderate” like Romney or Kerry; you cater to independents by giving them a man of great ideas, a man swing voters can believe in – an Obama, a Bush, or even a Clinton (or a Perot!).

That’s why, although I don’t know whether Obama or his challenger will ultimately take the White House this fall, I am already certain that Mr. Paul would outperform Mr. Romney in the final election returns.
 
Do you ever reply without trying to insult Dr. Paul, why do you hate him with such a passion?
As far as the age question, he replied on his Birthday yesterday “I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go 20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest.” ronpaul.com/2011-08-20/ron-paul-76-challenges-status-quo-to-20-mile-bike-race-in-houston-heat/
What did I say about Ron Paul that makes you think I hate him at all, let alone “with a passion” ? He may be in fine health, but I don’t think the country is about to elect a 78 year old libertarian from Texas. Perhaps you could show me the historical precedent for believing that?

Ishii
 
So you want to commit acts of War against Iran because you can’t sleep at night because ‘Media Induced’ Islamophobia keeps you looking under your bed for ‘terrists’ or are you just looking the world over for Monsters to slay?
I’m afraid you have a tendency to exaggerate my stands on the issues and its getting a bit tiresome - you say I “hate” Ron Paul, then you accuse me of wanting to start a war with Iran… please. I think those who are in touch with reality and understand realpolitik know that there are ways to discourage a country from acquiring nuclear weapons without resorting to outright war. My post was in response to those who are saying that we have no right to try to stop a country from getting nuclear weapons. Such a view is a denial of the existence of evil in the world and false moral equivalency. Haven’t really seen the moral equivalency argument since the left used to say that we had no right to oppose the communists - that we were just as bad if not worse. Its sad to see such a falacious argument rear its ugly head.

Ishii
 
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