Catholics for Ron Paul Coalition

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This isn’t simple, it’s simplistic. Much of the language of the Constitution is vague, probably intentionally so, because it’s a foundational document. Many of the controversial positions that Ron Paul takes are also simply not addressed in the Constitution or in a way that could lead to honest disagreements between people with different interpretations.
Actually the Constitution isn’t as vague as you may think. And there is plenty written about it by those who were arguing for it: thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fedpapers.html

And those who were arguing against it: constitution.org/afp/afp.htm

And plenty of others wrote about the document and what the possible vague terms (like General Welfare) meant and what they did not mean: sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/991123.shtml
 
Your post is kind of angry or at least that’s my take on it. I was careful to disagree with your conclusions from the polling you linked to. I didn’t try and denegrate your intelligence nor your motives or level on informedness. (…)
Finally, my predictions and prognostications about the upcoming 2012 elections are not influenced by Party affiliation nor by candidate preference.
Sorry for offending. That was certainly not my intention, but when you cite “swaths” of numbers that simply aren’t there in support of Perry as the obvious GOP nominee, you insult my intelligence. You (like myself) are a native Texan, so you must know his negatives in his home state. To sweep that under the carpet is disingenuous.

The anti-Paul posters on this thread are all too happy to denigrate a candidate and his supporters. It’s denigration in my book when people take a legitimate candidate and treat him as a non-person because the party leadership or the mainstream media (including Fox) decide he’s not serious.

If you have evidence to back up your assertions, and not just name-calling and bogus appeals to media and party authority, then I’m legitimately interested. Unfortunately, there isn’t much but the endless mantra of “unelectability” and personal smears.

Finally, with all due respect, I hope you don’t mind that I don’t take your word for the fact that you are an absolutely unbiased observer with no feelings for any person or party, perfectly uninfluenced by the propaganda that surrounds us daily like the air we breathe. This sort of unqualified claim actually undermines your credibility.
 
Ron Paul doesn’t know anything about economics so I stopped listening to him. Maybe he has some useful positions but nothing substantial. I support people who have more of a clue about economics than he does.
This is by far the most ignorant statement I have read in this thread. Ron Paul’s position on economics and sound money created the Tea Party movement, the Audit the Fed movement, and a focus on deficit spending, quantitative easing, economic bubbles, and predicted nearly every macroeconomic disaster we’ve had in the last 25 years. Perhaps it is you who knows nothing about economics. Dr. Paul is an Austrian economics disciple, not a Keynesian, so if you subscribe to the Paul Krugman theory of “we need to spend MORE money” solution to life’s problems, then yes it may appear that Ron Paul knows little. However, the fruit is bearing out on Keynes economic theory. You can only be engaged in perpetual war and try to centrally plan the economy for so long before the house of cards comes crashing down around your head.
 
Sorry for offending. That was certainly not my intention, but when you cite “swaths” of numbers that simply aren’t there in support of Perry as the obvious GOP nominee, you insult my intelligence. You (like myself) are a native Texan, so you must know his negatives in his home state. To sweep that under the carpet is disingenuous.

The anti-Paul posters on this thread are all too happy to denigrate a candidate and his supporters. It’s denigration in my book when people take a legitimate candidate and treat him as a non-person because the party leadership or the mainstream media (including Fox) decide he’s not serious.

If you have evidence to back up your assertions, and not just name-calling and bogus appeals to media and party authority, then I’m legitimately interested. Unfortunately, there isn’t much but the endless mantra of “unelectability” and personal smears.

Finally, with all due respect, I hope you don’t mind that I don’t take your word for the fact that you are an absolutely unbiased observer with no feelings for any person or party, perfectly uninfluenced by the propaganda that surrounds us daily like the air we breathe. This sort of unqualified claim actually undermines your credibility.
Here is one thing that is for certain, Romney, Bachman, Perry, Santorum only wish they had a cadre of supporters who were as loyal and passionate about their campaigns as Dr.Paul did.
 
Here is one thing that is for certain, Romney, Bachman, Perry, Santorum only wish they had a cadre of supporters who were as loyal and passionate about their campaigns as Dr.Paul did.
:hmmm: Lyndon LaRouche had a cadre of loyal and passionate supporters. It didn’t help him. 🤷
 
:hmmm: Lyndon LaRouche had a cadre of loyal and passionate supporters. It didn’t help him. 🤷
Just another fallacious attack designed to smear the good Doctors name by association. If you know anything about Lyndon LaRouche… He makes a lot of statements about the FEDeral Reserve System but his solutions are to replace it with a European Model Central Bank. Hardly a solution to replace one counterfeiter with another. What so many on this thread seem yet to grasp is that the Age of Central Banking (and Economic Central Planning) are coming to an end. Those here who have supported these illusions in the past should realize their mistakes and rectify their lives, not continue to regurgitate MSM (and the State’s) Propaganda.
 
I don’t necessarily blame the average person for not knowing about Ron Paul’s position on the issues. It is evident the Media has been given it’s orders to keep silent about the good Dr. See the below links.




 
I don’t necessarily blame the average person for not knowing about Ron Paul’s position on the issues. It is evident the Media has been given it’s orders to keep silent about the good Dr.

All politicians need to earn media attention. I think he has been given a lot of attention for someone who polls as low as he does. When Paul start polling with the top of the pack in the Republican race he will gain more attention. There is no conspiracy. And if you guys want to be treated as main stream you can’t keep imagining conspiracies against you.
 
All politicians need to earn media attention. I think he has been given a lot of attention for someone who polls as low as he does. When Paul start polling with the top of the pack in the Republican race he will gain more attention. There is no conspiracy. And if you guys want to be treated as main stream you can’t keep imagining conspiracies against you.
The only one who brings up Conspiracy are Paul Haters. The FACT that when he does get media attention (besides the Business channels who have been treating him fairly since the last election) they aim to marginalize or ridicule him (like many of the MSM’s regurgitators here). That he doesn’t receive the same kind of coverage has nothing to do with his polling #s and everything to do with the fact that he opposes both major elements of BIG Government: The Welfare State and the Warfare State. It’s unfortunate that there are so many devotees to the latter on this thread.

Here is Clear Media neglect from the last election: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k9nOIusbDwI

And from this election: journalism.org/numbers_report/are_media_ignoring_ron_paul

Anybody who claims that the media isn’t treating Dr. Paul like he’s the 13th floor in a hotel, has NO credibility, and should rightfully be considered a Joke: thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012—corn-polled-edition—ron-paul—the-top-tier?xrs=playershare_fb
 
I don’t necessarily blame the average person for not knowing about Ron Paul’s position on the issues. It is evident the Media has been given it’s orders to keep silent about the good Dr. See the below links

The more I hear from Dr. Paul the more I like him (personally) and the less I want to see him become President. I think a lot of people have the same reaction.
 
All politicians need to earn media attention. I think he has been given a lot of attention for someone who polls as low as he does. When Paul start polling with the top of the pack in the Republican race he will gain more attention. There is no conspiracy. And if you guys want to be treated as main stream you can’t keep imagining conspiracies against you.
Even though the media people in the video say they are part of a “Conspriacy” I am imagining there is a conspriacy?
 
Yes, the US should keep bombing or bribing the entire world so they do what it wants… how silly of me to forget that America can do no wrong. Guess we can just borrow more money from China or have the FED do some more ‘Quantitative Easing’/Counterfeiting to pay for all the wonderful things our Government has been doing… Like having as part of it’s official foreign policy, targeting other countries for population control since 1974: See Kissinger Report hli.org/index.php/kissinger-report/193?task=view
Here is my post again if you want to actually comment on the substance of it instead of engaging in sacastic insults:

*I’m afraid you have a tendency to exaggerate my stands on the issues and its getting a bit tiresome - you say I “hate” Ron Paul, then you accuse me of wanting to start a war with Iran… please. I think those who are in touch with reality and understand realpolitik know that there are ways to discourage a country from acquiring nuclear weapons without resorting to outright war. My post was in response to those who are saying that we have no right to try to stop a country from getting nuclear weapons. Such a view is a denial of the existence of evil in the world and false moral equivalency. Haven’t really seen the moral equivalency argument since the left used to say that we had no right to oppose the communists - that we were just as bad if not worse. Its sad to see such a falacious argument rear its ugly head. *

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Just another fallacious attack designed to smear the good Doctors name by association. If you know anything about Lyndon LaRouche… He makes a lot of statements about the FEDeral Reserve System but his solutions are to replace it with a European Model Central Bank. Hardly a solution to replace one counterfeiter with another. What so many on this thread seem yet to grasp is that the Age of Central Banking (and Economic Central Planning) are coming to an end. Those here who have supported these illusions in the past should realize their mistakes and rectify their lives, not continue to regurgitate MSM (and the State’s) Propaganda.
That’s not the point.

The point is that he had a cadre of loyal and passionate supporters and it didn’t help him.

There is no smear. You’re seeing reds under the bed.
 
That’s not the point.

The point is that he had a cadre of loyal and passionate supporters and it didn’t help him.

There is no smear. You’re seeing reds under the bed.
Did LaRouche’s positions start anything as politically relevant as the Tea Party?
 
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