Catholics for Ron Paul Coalition

[Scott_Lafrance]

Again how are your anti-Bush conspiracy theories relevant to the 2012 election.

Like the recently renamed crack in the Earth that caused the east coast earthquake on Tuesday, its Bush’s Fault ™. Obama is just trying to fix the mess, so he needs another 4 years.

 

[AntalKalnoky]

Again how are your anti-Bush conspiracy theories relevant to the 2012 election.

Never heard of ‘anti-Bush conspiracy theories’ Probably the False defense by Foxy and GOP insider ‘consultants’: Fight truths with false propaganda. Can yiou offer that ‘conspiracy theory’ documentation, Bob? Better yet, refute Any of my Facts. Any Bottom line Fact.

 

[1holycatholic]

Sorry, my system can’t do Links; I only Highlighted it because it is The Bottom Line of USCCB They endorsed. . It is The new site to Search; we have the brand new folded flyers in our Parish with the same written out, got one last night. Social Concerns and No Abortions are still Top Priority of the Catholic Church of the USa; Not Tqax Cuts or Richest getting welfare, Vast uneeded focus on Military Spending instead of College education, etc. China has surpassed us in Doctorates as well as Billionaires, too.

Thanks.

The USCCB is not a “mini-Magisterium.” The USCCB has absolutely no teaching mandate. So even if the document were online it is non-authoritative.

The bullet text is incoherent.

 

[AntalKalnoky]

Like the recently renamed crack in the Earth that caused the east coast earthquake on Tuesday, its Bush’s Fault ™. Obama is just trying to fix the mess, so he needs another 4 years.

Perhaps you don’t understand Faul Lines, Bob. My Bachellor of Science, continued Up-to-Date Jesuit Degree. Know of the La Jolla California Unregulated, Contrary to Safety rules Nuclear Plant buil almosty on Top of a Known California Fault Line, Approved by Reagan, despite Numerous Expert and Public warnings? ? Our Most Dangerous Nuclear facility.

 

[ishii]

Sooooooo…I guess there is no such thing as the “Truman Doctrine” because “officially” it was called the “Recommendation for assistance to Greece and Turkey.” I assure you, the Bush Doctrine is real. American men and women have died enforcing it. You are right, Reagan did call the Soviet Union “the evil empire” and declared that Communism was headed for the ash heap of history, but, like the tough union leader that he once was, after he took his stand and made his case, he was ready to sit down and talk. He was tough but not bellicose. ***Would Reagan have declared a policy of preventive war to keep any rival from rising to where it might challenge us? Would he have thrown over the Cold War doctrines of deterrence and containment (you don’t deny these “doctrines” do you?) as irrelevant to our time? Would he have called for world democratic revolution (like the one we are seeing come to “fruition” under Obama) to change regimes that did not threaten or attack us? How could Bush say that we are not secure if the Islamic world is not democratic? ***The Islamic world has never been democratic the few times it has been “democratic” we got “bad guys” like Nasser, Khadafi, Assad, Sadaam, and the Baath Party. Every president since FDR got along fine with the “bad guys” so long as it made us safe. And one more thing about your reference to the “evil empire.” We preach democracy and human rights, yet prop up dictators and oligarchs who oppress Islamic peoples and squander their wealth. In other words, we meddle in their affairs. And then you have America’s neopagan culture - alchohol, drugs, abortions, pornography - all a satanic lure that corrupts the morals of Islamic children. You see, to millions of muslims, we are the “evil empire.”

(Bold italics added by me)

What do you call aid to the contras? What do you call aid to freedom fighters in Angola, e.g.? Or the efforts to destabilize the communist regime in Poland by conspiring with the Pope, Thatcher and Lech Walesa? It was a departure from the post ww2 containment foreign policy - it was a policy of “rolling back” communism, of confronting the Soviet Union. And that was the Reagan Doctrine. Reagan didn’t want mere “coexistence” with the Soviet Union. He sought to win the Cold War.

Ishii

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Perhaps you don’t understand Faul Lines, Bob. My Bachellor of Science, continued Up-to-Date Jesuit Degree. Know of the La Jolla California Unregulated, Contrary to Safety rules Nuclear Plant buil almosty on Top of a Known California Fault Line, Approved by Reagan, despite Numerous Expert and Public warnings? ? Our Most Dangerous Nuclear facility.

I’m not Bob, although I appreciate the comparison.

 

[1holycatholic]

Perhaps you don’t understand Faul Lines, Bob. My Bachellor of Science, continued Up-to-Date Jesuit Degree. Know of the La Jolla California Unregulated, Contrary to Safety rules Nuclear Plant buil almosty on Top of a Known California Fault Line, Approved by Reagan, despite Numerous Expert and Public warnings? ? Our Most Dangerous Nuclear facility.

 

[AntalKalnoky]

The USCCB is not a “mini-Magisterium.” The USCCB has absolutely no teaching mandate. So even if the document were online it is non-authoritative.

The bullet text is incoherent.

                                                                       The USCCB  is the  Moral  and  Legal Administrator  of  Vatican  Policy,   with  Approval by The Holy Father.    Know the  Changed  Mass wording  begining   in  Advent was Initiated  by the  Vatican,   discussed  lengthily by Each  Conference of Catholic  Bishops  in rthe world,  Finally  Approved   as Required by the  Vatican.   I  attended  the  initial  overview  by  a  USCCB      apoproved representative;   as is happening in    every  diocese,  befor  your Pastor  initiates.  The USCCB  is opposite of  just  oppinions;  Thety  are The  Guiding  Authority   for  all  Bishops and Priestsd in the Area,. They  write the  Liturgical  Norms  for the USA, your Bishop  and clergy  Have to follow.                Glad to outline the Lines of Authority in the Catholic Church.   Each  Priest  and Bishop  do Not  do  as they feel,  Since the   Council  of Jerusalem of the  Apostles.

                                                                                                                     The   Epistles  were the  Corection  and Guidance Letters  of the  Apostles, first  Bishops  to the rapidly  spreading  Church.  Church  Synods  began in the  First Centuries, later  the  Church of  Constantinople,  the Church of Rome Regionals.   Canada, the  Carribean,  the USA each have our Official Bishops  Conferences, under the Vatican.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Seriously.

 

[estesbob]

The USCCB is the Moral and Legal Administrator of Vatican Policy, with Approval by The Holy Father. Know the Changed Mass wording begining in Advent was Initiated by the Vatican, discussed lengthily by Each Conference of Catholic Bishops in rthe world, Finally Approved as Required by the Vatican. I attended the initial overview by a USCCB apoproved representative; as is happening in every diocese, befor your Pastor initiates. The USCCB is opposite of just oppinions; Thety are The Guiding Authority for all Bishops and Priestsd in the Area,. They write the Liturgical Norms for the USA, your Bishop and clergy Have to follow.

• Glad to outline the Lines of Authority in the Catholic Church. Each Priest and Bishop do Not do as they feel, Since the Council of Jerusalem of the Apostles.

10. At the level of particular Churches grouped together by geographic areas (by countries, regions, etc.), the Bishops in charge do not exercise pastoral care jointly with collegial acts equal to those of the College of Bishops.

11. In fact, only the faithful entrusted to the pastoral care of a particular Bishop are required to accept his judgement given in the name of Christ in matters of faith and morals, and to adhere to it with a religious assent of soul**.**

catholicnewsagency.com/document.php?n=734

 

[AntalKalnoky]

10. At the level of particular Churches grouped together by geographic areas (by countries, regions, etc.), the Bishops in charge do not exercise pastoral care jointly with collegial acts equal to those of the College of Bishops.

11. In fact, only the faithful entrusted to the pastoral care of a particular Bishop are required to accept his judgement given in the name of Christ in matters of faith and morals, and to adhere to it with a religious assent of soul**.**

catholicnewsagency.com/document.php?n=734

Bishops don’t act Independently, but in accord with the Regional Council of Bishops; That is in accorrd with the general CC you cite, brother Bob. otherwise, please explain why the USCCB Estabklished the modified Mass wording and some prayers for the USA, Ditto Canada, Carribean/Central American, etc. Notice the Catechism is worded generally, not Naming Specific Organizational Names. It is The Catechism of the Universal Church, English Form, Approved by Blessed John Paul II the Great.

 

[AntalKalnoky]

10. At the level of particular Churches grouped together by geographic areas (by countries, regions, etc.), the Bishops in charge do not exercise pastoral care jointly with collegial acts equal to those of the College of Bishops.

11. In fact, only the faithful entrusted to the pastoral care of a particular Bishop are required to accept his judgement given in the name of Christ in matters of faith and morals, and to adhere to it with a religious assent of soul**.**

catholicnewsagency.com/document.php?n=734

Bishops don’t act Independently, but in accord with the Regional Council of Bishops; That is in accorrd with the general CC you cite, brother Bob. otherwise, please explain why the USCCB Established the modified Mass wording and some prayers for the USA, Ditto Canada, Carribean/Central American, etc. Notice the Catechism is worded generally, not Naming Specific Organizational Names. It is The Catechism of the Universal Church, English Form, Approved by Blessed John Paul II the Great.

 

[Michael_C]

In regards to the subject of war I would recommend reading Major General Smedley Butler’s writings. He is a two time Medal of Honor Marine who fought in numerous battles.

 

[estesbob]

Bishops don’t act Independently, but in accord with the Regional Council of Bishops; That is in accorrd with the general CC you cite, brother Bob. otherwise, please explain why the USCCB Estabklished the modified Mass wording and some prayers for the USA, Ditto Canada, Carribean/Central American, etc. Notice the Catechism is worded generally, not Naming Specific Organizational Names. It is The Catechism of the Universal Church, English Form, Approved by Blessed John Paul II the Great.

The USCCB has absolutely no authority whatsoever over the individual Catholic. The new mass wording, as you yourself acknowledge, was approved by the Vatican. .

 

[Tigg]

Are you, or other Ron Paul people going to vote for the Repub nominee if it’s not Ron Paul, or are you going to vote for him anyway as a write-in or stay home?

Despite the dubious choices, I have never stayed home. If I do, it revokes my pass to pontificate on the political forum!

I remember voting for Bush TWICE because I felt I had no choice; the second time I suffered from a heavier heart than the time before and in the end, most of my fears proved to be well founded. In '08, I was at peace with myself because I knew, altho he would never succeed, I voted for a moral upright man who was on the ballet and really was 100% pro-life - who loved his country and the people in it. It was against my conscience to vote for McCain.

I received an e-mail from a friend the other day and he said, I am going to follow the polls to determine which candidate has the best chance of beating Obama. I will then add my vote to that person’s tally. I want anyone in office but him. I don’t care if the opponent is a one-eyed… (the rest has been deleted as it is unprintable) and I realize this seems to be the consensus on this thread. I’m not there…**yet **…but will wait with a sliver of hope that the GOP can come up with someone more palatable than Rick Perry.

 

[Michael_C]

Ron Paul Campaign Add - youtube.com/watch?v=pChzOaIeyxY

 

[louis91766]

And Where Non-Veterans of Any Wars top GOP Insiders 1999 decided to Focus U.S.A. Top Priority for the 21srt Century: (1) The Top Military Power in the world. (2) Neo-Con Conquer our former Allie: Iraq and ‘all muslim countries into ‘democracies’.’

• Instead of Business Growth in New Technology Exports, which have been ignored totally, ridiculed 2001-2009
  Post WW II Japan, Germany Then China discovered where Power Is: in Busines and Financial Power. (We Lost it to China under GW Bush radical Policies.)
  

                                                                                                                     GWBush/Chaney  Authorized  Torture    like  Water Boarding  and  Worse,  on   Any  and all  'suspects  (80%  of whom new  Nothing, per  Official Annual reports)  which Had been  UIniversal  War  Crimes   we  signed off on  as late  as  1970's.

We see what happens when the priority is on military spending and when support for business growth comes later. The USA is has overestimated its ability to serve as police force for the whole world, and is suffering the consequences in the form of a double dip recession with more economic disasters to come.

 

[louis91766]

Obama is following GOP/McCain War policy “Not to Lose” in Afghanistan; a Detail Military Move that Increased and enlivened Terrorism.

• It was our European Allies that initiated and called for Military attacks They are Continuing. A French Fighter Plane was first to shoot down a Libyan MIG. Obama Only Authorized Very Minor U.S. VERY Minor involvement in Libya after NATO, the U.N. and some MidEast Nations authorized Attacks.
  

                                                                                                                     Obama didn't Initiate these  military  policies.

He went along and gave his support.

 

[brumano]

This might serve as an alert to Ron Paul supporters, there was in a number of major states a bill moved through the legislatures that would prevent any registerd voter who did not vote in the last national election from voting in the upcoming 2012 presidential.
It was put through very queitly about 3mo’s ago; you’ll have to look into it I just don’t know much about it, but I thought it would be better safe than sorry to bring it to your attention.
I’m sure you’ll see the huge problem this law, if it did go into law would create for RP if as he probably can’t get the repub party nom would run as he has more as an independent would pose. All of the voters that were turned out for Obama will still be able to vote, all the swing voters who felt strongly enough to vote against him going with McCain will still be able to vote and will probably vote for the repub nomination winner, but those who didn’t want to cast their vote for either of them probably stayed home in 2008 those would be voters that RP would need to get out for him and they could get shut out at the polls under this law…all I’m saying is you better check into it.

 

[Michael_C]

This might serve as an alert to Ron Paul supporters, there was in a number of major states a bill moved through the legislatures that would prevent any registerd voter who did not vote in the last national election from voting in the upcoming 2012 presidential.
It was put through very queitly about 3mo’s ago; you’ll have to look into it I just don’t know much about it, but I thought it would be better safe than sorry to bring it to your attention.
I’m sure you’ll see the huge problem this law, if it did go into law would create for RP if as he probably can’t get the repub party nom would run as he has more as an independent would pose. All of the voters that were turned out for Obama will still be able to vote, all the swing voters who felt strongly enough to vote against him going with McCain will still be able to vote and will probably vote for the repub nomination winner, but those who didn’t want to cast their vote for either of them probably stayed home in 2008 those would be voters that RP would need to get out for him and they could get shut out at the polls under this law…all I’m saying is you better check into it.

I find that hard to believe.