There is one truth in this thread , you can’t discuss or debate homosexuality with anyone thats homosexual or an advocate of homosexuality,no information discussed will be accepted by them. And thats why , to speak negatively about homosexuality , is forbidden in America. by Law?
The only problem with this attitude is that you fail to separate the sin from the sinner. While we must detest sin in all of its forms, from the most benign of little white lies to the most depraved of human acts, we must never forget that the person committing these acts is a creation of God, and we must love them. Those who suffer from save sex attraction need our love and compassion, not derision.
It is not the act or the attraction that is derided. It is the insistence that the act be considered as normal, which no Catholic with a properly formed conscience can do.
No one is forbidding this. Stop crying wolf.
I cannot find a definition of inclination that indicates it is a “natural disposition”. In fact, most of the the definitions I have seen indicate it is a deviation from normal or a tendency away from normal.
I was referring directly to the hate-filled rhetoric of the previous poster, who failed draw a distinction between the homosexual person and homosexual acts.
Correct.
No. That is not what the church teaches. The church teaches that homosexual behavior is a grievous sin regardless of its origin. It takes no stance whatsoever on whether homosexuality is environmental or genetic
Actually he is absolutely correct. As we have seen in this thread and as we see in all homosexual fthreads homosexual apologists rarely want to discuss homosexuality itself. They always try to quickly steer the discussion towards how those who affirm church teaching on homosexuality are at the best lacking in charity and compassion, at worse are bigots. What else could one draw ,for instance, from your comment “it’s an attempt to ask for better thinking”? Better thinking than what?
No one debates the change in the English version. Was there a change in the Latin which it is translated from?
Same here.
Thank you for your kind words
Nice qualification.
Understood…thanks everyone for the clarifications! As it seems to becoming more common it is very necessary for me to get a clear understanding of the teaching on this matter.
Correct. The pride is not in being homosexual though. It is in being human; made in the likeness of God. I’ve never understood identifying oneself by their sexual inclination, especially a disordered inclination. There are people whose trial is compulsive masturbation. They don’t choose to be compulsive masturbators, but that doesnt make their inclination or behavior something to celebrate. These people also have great talents and gifts, but you don’t see a lot of compulsive masturbator pride parades.
You are more than welcome! It took a lot of reading, discussion and reflection to understand Church teaching in this regard, along with a lot of other teachings. Keep studying, praying and asking questions.
