I would like to know where you feel I ever mentioned the Inquisition! You say I brought it up? I find most of your contributions quite offensive and normally just skip over all the hoopla. I do not care much for your approach. But, thank you for sympathizing with my flooding.
I am sure the Amish would be inspired to know that you, a Roman Catholic are inspired by them. It is most interesting to me to note in most topics on these forums how time has affected people’s beliefs and formed different acceptance levels of practice and doctrines.
I am not sure what exactly inspires you in regards to the Amish but do you have any idea that admitting that statement a few centuries ago could have cost you your life at the hands of your very own chosen Church unless you would recant?
Some things have become better with time while many other things have not.
There you go…
Again…you make this aggressively personal instead of responding with facts. You may not like that I hold your feet to the fire a bit, but we Catholics get tired of taking grief from n-Cs.a-Cs in which they make baseless allegations and attacks on our faith and don’t bother to support it with verifiable sources that can and should be examined for context and authenticity. Look at my blog and you’ll see some examples of the stuff I’m talking about. I’m about to add yet another article in the next few days and you’ll find that one over in Apologetics until I condense and edit it for the blog.
, let me ask a further question.Either way, I think we have pretty well resolved that the 33.000 denoms argument is both inaccurate and ineffective in apologetics. It is sufficient to say that there are perhaps thousands or at least far too many to avoid the confusion that 1st Corinthians 14:33 condemns.
My point exactly. We lose credibility when we exaggerate.Either way, I think we have pretty well resolved that the 33.000 denoms argument is both inaccurate and ineffective in apologetics. It is sufficient to say that there are perhaps thousands or at least far too many to avoid the confusion that 1st Corinthians 14:33 condemns.
Wow… good question! Especially with the recent council in the East and the facts that some still won’t participate. I’ll be interested to see how that shakes out.
Okay, so ya’ll got pretty much the same ‘denominational’ culture we have here.
Since we’re all contributing to this ‘crackers’ discussion
You have a Russian wife who has been (I assume) raised in the ROC. Would this idea of ‘many denominations’ then be more of a ‘Western’ phenomenon?
Indeed.
Actually, if you read the link mentioned above, I do not think the 33,000 number is defensible. I think it is much higher, for reasons stated in the newsletter cited in the link.
Hi John!!! Thanx for your teaching materials. Keep up the good work!!!
No, not at all. And you accused me of calling you a liar, which I did not do. To be a liar, you would have to know something was false ahead of time, and state it anyway. This, I never said you did.
Thank you for the clarification, John. Sorry for the misinterpretation.
Your response is somewhat like I posted earlier. I believe there are millions of denominations made up of a single person. Anyone, who has appropriated the authority to bind and loose to themselves, has become their own denomination.
They’re definitely heretics, but unless they head up a governing body and have followers I wouldn’t really consider them a “denomination,” which I understand to be a term referring to a recognizable variant of Christianity that a person could warn others against joining.
They are certainly worlds apart in terms of history and doctrine, but at one point, John Wesley was just a guy with a new idea about Jesus who got people to follow him - Episcopalians are a lot more complicated, of course, and there’s a definite contrast between the guy with the shingle and the Episcopalians down the street, and maybe it’s the Episcopalians who resist the denominational label, rather that the guy with the shingle, or the Methodists.
While I do not desire to debate or argue anything with you I humbly feel I owe you an explanation. I guess what I have to admit is my own ignorance…I have heard of the Inquisition throughout my life time never paying much attention to it. In my mind it was something that happened way back in the 1100’s. I have never been sure what that was all about and also never concerned myself to find out. When I stirred up reactions from you and others today it was a surprise to me to get asked what I know of the Inquisition. Just now I have had the time to Google it and read a Catholic tract explaining that what happened in the 1500’s is also referred to as the Inquisition. Thus was actually a new thought for me so I guess I am maybe the only uninformed guy out here. Now I understand the venom in some od the replies I received.
My admiration for the Amish is first of all, based on their Christian devotion, and in particular their simple living and denial of the conveniences of modern technology. I can appreciate that if done for keeping oneself better focused on Spiritual life. I’m sure there are many Catholic monks who live similar disciplines.I am sure the Amish would be inspired to know that you, a Roman Catholic are inspired by them. It is most interesting to me to note in most topics on these forums how time has affected people’s beliefs and formed different acceptance levels of practice and doctrines.
I am not sure what exactly inspires you in regards to the Amish but do you have any idea that admitting that statement a few centuries ago could have cost you your life at the hands of your very own chosen Church unless you would recant?
Some things have become better with time while many other things have not.
Thank you. PM anytime bro.