Catholics to celebrate feast of the 'Lily of the Mohawks' [CNA]

[ffelts]

Oh, no, not scholar, I am a little one who believe in God,

You are kind, Frank
May God bless you!

Thank you for the great reference information Dear R! I’m quite satisfied. Your zest and love for God is magnificent! You have great faith! You are truly humble! God loves you!

Oh, they tell me I look like FBI Assistant Director Walter Skinner on “X Files”.

Godspeed, Frank

Janet1983,

I hope you have a blessed Sunday and have the Peace of Christ as I know I do after mass and communion especially.

 

[roselily]

Thank you for the great reference information Dear R! I’m quite satisfied. Your zest and love for God is magnificent! You have great faith! You are truly humble! God loves you!

Oh, they tell me I look like FBI Assistant Director Walter Skinner on “X Files”.

Godspeed, Frank

Janet1983,

I hope you have a blessed Sunday and have the Peace of Christ as I know I do after mass and communion especially.

 

[ffelts]

Dear Cousin Kateri Tekakwitha,

Flower of the Algonquins and Lily of the Mohawks,

The Great Spirit, our Creator, chose you among all the Native Americans to be His messenger of love and service to His people.

You were subjected to all sorts of ridicule - being called “the Christian”, “the Algonquin” - by your people, the Mohawks. Yet you perservered in your undying love of Jesus and Mary above all else. Lead us to this perfection of love and sacrifice as you did in an environment much like today’s world of self-centeredness, greed and the idolatry of the material.

You lived Jesus’ message of “Love God with your whole heart and your whole soul, and love your neighbor as yourself”. Please be our guide towards a saintly life of love and dedication to others.

When we are about to give up our spirit, please help us to cross over into that happy hunting ground to share our Creator’s reward that you now cherish with Jesus, Mary and our Great Spirit.

Cousin Tekakwitha, please watch over, protect and guide us as we attempt to walk in your mocassins.

Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha
Flower of the Algonquins
Lily of the Mohawks
Please pray for us
- Prayer written by Norm Leveillee



Dear R, have a good day!

 

[roselily]

Thank you, Frank,

God bless Kateri Tekakwitha, Lily of the Mohawks-I love you.

Yes, Frank! It is-how much happiness in one word: Love! God is Love. That- Love God with all your heart and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself.
Worship Christ. the confidence in the infinite goodness of the Father.
That confidence in the future is exactly what I need-that I need hold this: God is Love

Let us pray His Kingdom come, dear brothers sisters, His kingdom, our future eternal inexhaustible happiness home.

Oh, Listen to St. Paul sayings in his first letter to the Corinthians, when I read my eyes fixed in reading and delighted.

“If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.”
-1 Corinthians 15:19

"What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the impersihable. Listen, I will tell you a mystery! We will not all die, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable body must put on imperishability, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When this perishable body puts on imperishability, and this mortal body puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will be fulfilled:‘Death has been swallowed up in victory.’
-1 Corinthians 15:51-54

“For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.”
-1Corinthians 13:12-13

"But,as it is written,’‘What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
nor the human heart conceived,
what God has prepared for those
who love him’-
-1 Corinthians 2:9

May God bless you dear brothers, sisters!
God is Love! We praise His Holy Name! first we pray His kingdom come! think, then, how happy we shall be.

 

[ffelts]

As I attempt to walk in the moccasins of Blessed Kateri I say:

Dear Rebecca,

Yes, yes, yes, His Kingdom come! God’s Will, Mary’s Will!

Worship God The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!

Be good Rebecca!

God’s Will for You!

Mary’s Will for You!

Pray often!

I pray for you all the time especially at mass and communion.

Your love for God makes me love you.

O Mother of the Divine Redeemer, who under the title of Our Lady of Good Remedy comes to the aid of all who call upon thee, extend thy maternal protection to us. We depend on thee Dear Mother, as helpless and needy children depend on a tender and caring mother.

Yes, Rebecca, be good and be happy with God!

I pray to know God’s Will, Mary’s Will.

Your eternal Frank

 

[Janet1983]

How is it possible that so many people so wilfully pray to someone who led a seemingly godly life? Considering the fact that the church has to enforce honouring her by saying that misusing her name is blasphemy once she is proclaimed a saint…
I really don’t get it. She is dead and hopefully with God (if she actually got saved) and there is nothing anybody can do for her or obtain from her.
I know that the Catechism tells you to pray to her, but that is blasphemy… Christ is our only mediator and by saying that we can go through others to reach Him is diminishing His love and His power!
All of us are called to be saints (Romans 1:7) and all true Christians are saints (Acts 9:13; 9:32; 9:41; 26:10; Romans 8:27; 12:13; 15:25; 15:26; 15:31; 16:2; 16:15; 1 Cor-inthians 6:1, 2 Corinthians 1:1; Ephesians 1:1; Ephesians 3:8; Ephesians 4:11-12; Jude 1:14)
We do not need interecession from people who cannot intercede for us anyway… I can ask my sister to pray for me, but I cannot ask Mary to pray for me because she won’t hear me… We do not need any heavenly intercession to reach Jesus Christ who is our mediator as we can boldly approach the throne ourselves…

“Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.” Hebrews 4:16

 

[ffelts]

Oh, I see you’re an ex-catholic. Why is that?

 

[Janet1983]

Oh, I see you’re an ex-catholic. Why is that?

Well I posted it once and since then I’ve been asked so often and reposted it… Here it is…
I also found out that there are lost people inside and outside of the Catholic Church and that there are saved people inside and outside of the Catholic Church…

 

[roselily]

As I attempt to walk in the moccasins of Blessed Kateri I say:

Dear Rebecca,

Yes, yes, yes, His Kingdom come! God’s Will, Mary’s Will!

Worship God The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!

Be good Rebecca!

God’s Will for You!

Mary’s Will for You!

Pray often!

I pray for you all the time especially at mass and communion.

Your love for God makes me love you.

O Mother of the Divine Redeemer, who under the title of Our Lady of Good Remedy comes to the aid of all who call upon thee, extend thy maternal protection to us. We depend on thee Dear Mother, as helpless and needy children depend on a tender and caring mother.

Yes, Rebecca, be good and be happy with God!

I pray to know God’s Will, Mary’s Will.

Your eternal Frank

I should like, from my whole soul, to pray always; His kingdom come-the exchange of a lower for a higher happiness, a happiness less calm for one calmer and eternal.
I am, one who confess Christ cannot be unhappy.
-you know how I pray now-my our Lord’s prayer is different, but of which I could not give account to my self.
Why should I look no where when I pray to God before?
That in Genesis: “So God created human kind in his image,” in that moment a hazy image was changing into a form more and more definite, more pleasing, more beautiful. so I can see , think, God Shining and Almighty Power! then there it is our God-though we still cannot see His face, but we can see He is there, and in heaven all the angels there, and all the saints ,and one day He will change our perishable body to just like Him, this morning, when I open my eyes I praise our Father, I saw a red red rose and a lovely white lily, I thought that, I love rose and lily, O call me roselily or rose as before, or lily, that rebecca is before my English teacher she used to call me, it is not my name
Frank, I do not know what to call you; but I know that you are a Christian and my dear brother.
Dear Frank!
May God bless you!

 

[roselily]

How is it possible that so many people so wilfully pray to someone who led a seemingly godly life? Considering the fact that the church has to enforce honouring her by saying that misusing her name is blasphemy once she is proclaimed a saint…
I really don’t get it. She is dead and hopefully with God (if she actually got saved) and there is nothing anybody can do for her or obtain from her.
I know that the Catechism tells you to pray to her, but that is blasphemy… Christ is our only mediator and by saying that we can go through others to reach Him is diminishing His love and His power!
All of us are called to be saints (Romans 1:7) and all true Christians are saints (Acts 9:13; 9:32; 9:41; 26:10; Romans 8:27; 12:13; 15:25; 15:26; 15:31; 16:2; 16:15; 1 Cor-inthians 6:1, 2 Corinthians 1:1; Ephesians 1:1; Ephesians 3:8; Ephesians 4:11-12; Jude 1:14)
We do not need interecession from people who cannot intercede for us anyway… I can ask my sister to pray for me, but I cannot ask Mary to pray for me because she won’t hear me… We do not need any heavenly intercession to reach Jesus Christ who is our mediator as we can boldly approach the throne ourselves…

Oh, Janet,
Most Holy Mother can hear us, and beautiful angels and Saints …
I thought that-there are so many words in Holy Bible sayings, Oh, I hope here is one that St. Paul 's saying in 2 Chorinthians you will like to read again with me:

“I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows. And I know that such a person-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows-was caught up into Paradise and heard things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat. On behalf of such a one I will boast, but on my own behalf I will not boast,…”
2 Corinthians 12:2-5

May God bless you, Janet.

 

[Janet1983]

Oh, Janet,
Most Holy Mother can hear us, and beautiful angels and Saints …
I thought that-there are so many words in Holy Bible sayings, Oh, I hope here is one that St. Paul 's saying in 2 Chorinthians you will like to read again with me:

“I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows. And I know that such a person-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows-was caught up into Paradise and heard things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat. On behalf of such a one I will boast, but on my own behalf I will not boast,…”
2 Corinthians 12:2-5

May God bless you, Janet.

Paul had a vision about paradise… I never doubted that… But that does not have anything to do with praying to a saint to intercede for us… We can approach the throne boldly and this is what we should do. This does not have anything to do with the saints actually hearing us and interceding.

 

[roselily]

Paul had a vision about paradise… I never doubted that… But that does not have anything to do with praying to a saint to intercede for us… We can approach the throne boldly and this is what we should do. This does not have anything to do with the saints actually hearing us and interceding.

Janet, All the saints are in heaven paradise pray for us,
read that The letter of Paul to the Galatians :
“Paul an apostle-sent neither by human commission nor from human authorities, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead-and all the members of God’s family who are with me,”
Galatians 1:1-2

And The Letter of Paul to the Ephesians,
The Letter of Paul to the Philippians

Final Greetings and Benediction
"Greet every saint in Christ Jesus. The friends who are with me greet you. All the saints greet you, "
And all Paul 's letters.

and many threads here , this is one:forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=357799

 

[Janet1983]

Janet, All the saints are in heaven paradise pray for us,
read that The letter of Paul to the Galatians :
“Paul an apostle-sent neither by human commission nor from human authorities, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead-and all the members of God’s family who are with me,”
Galatians 1:1-2

And The Letter of Paul to the Ephesians,
The Letter of Paul to the Philippians

Final Greetings and Benediction
"Greet every saint in Christ Jesus. The friends who are with me greet you. All the saints greet you, "
And all Paul 's letters.

and many threads here , this is one:forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=357799

I read it… and it does not talk about the deceased. Paul is talking about his brethren… those who are alive at his time…

Galatians 1:1-2 KJV:
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

Galatians 1:1-2 NIV:
1 Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
2 and all the brothers with me, To the churches in Galatia:

Galatians 1:1-2 Nova Vulgata
1 Paulus apostolus, non ab hominibus neque per hominem, sed per Iesum Christum et Deum Patrem, qui suscitavit eum a mortuis,
2 et, qui mecum sunt, omnes fratres ecclesiis Galatiae

Even the Latin Bible talks about his brothers… and I got that on vatican.va (Latin version of the page)

Edit: The New American Bible on vatican.va:
1 Paul, an apostle not from human beings nor through a human being but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised him from the dead,
2 and all the brothers who are with me, to the churches of Galatia:

Paul is talking about the saints… the believers in Christ and he is talking to them. These are not deceased believers, but the living. As much as he calls them saints he calls us saints today. He is writing his letters to the saints in the churches.

 

[roselily]

I read it… and it does not talk about the deceased. Paul is talking about his brethren… those who are alive at his time…

Galatians 1:1-2 KJV:
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

Galatians 1:1-2 NIV:
1 Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
2 and all the brothers with me, To the churches in Galatia:

Galatians 1:1-2 Nova Vulgata
1 Paulus apostolus, non ab hominibus neque per hominem, sed per Iesum Christum et Deum Patrem, qui suscitavit eum a mortuis,
2 et, qui mecum sunt, omnes fratres ecclesiis Galatiae

Even the Latin Bible talks about his brothers… and I got that on vatican.va (Latin version of the page)

Edit: The New American Bible on vatican.va:
1 Paul, an apostle not from human beings nor through a human being but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised him from the dead,
2 and all the brothers who are with me, to the churches of Galatia:

Paul is talking about the saints… the believers in Christ and he is talking to them. These are not deceased believers, but the living. As much as he calls them saints he calls us saints today. He is writing his letters to the saints in the churches.

Oh Janet, I read Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians to you.

"Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raise; and if Christ has not been raised, our proclamation has been in vain and your faith has been in vain. We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified of God that he raised Christ-whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have died in Christ have perished. If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have died. For since death came through a human being, the resurrection of the dead has also come through a human being, for as all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For " God has put all things in subjection under his feet. " But when it says, “All things are put in subjection”, it is plain that this does not include the one who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to the one who put all things in subjection under him, so that God may be all in all. Otherwise, what will those people do who receive baptism on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized on their behalf.

And why are we putting ourselves in danger every hour? I die every day! That is as certain, brothers and sisters, as my boasting of you- a boast that I make in Christ Jesus our Lord. If with merely human hopes I fought with wild animals at Ephesus, what would I have gained by it? If the dead are not raised …

1 Corinthians 15:12-30
Goodnight, Janet; good night, Janet.:curtsey:

 

[Janet1983]

Oh Janet, I read Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians to you.
1 Corinthians 15:12-30
Goodnight, Janet; good night, Janet.:curtsey:

Maybe it’s just because it’s late… what were you trying to tell me? I don’t get it…
What did that have to do with prayer to the saints?

 

[ffelts]

Well I posted it once and since then I’ve been asked so often and reposted it… Here it is…
I also found out that there are lost people inside and outside of the Catholic Church and that there are saved people inside and outside of the Catholic Church…

Thank you for answering my question Janet1983.

 

[ffelts]

I should like, from my whole soul, to pray always; His kingdom come-the exchange of a lower for a higher happiness, a happiness less calm for one calmer and eternal.
I am, one who confess Christ cannot be unhappy.
-you know how I pray now-my our Lord’s prayer is different, but of which I could not give account to my self.
Why should I look no where when I pray to God before?
That in Genesis: “So God created human kind in his image,” in that moment a hazy image was changing into a form more and more definite, more pleasing, more beautiful. so I can see , think, God Shining and Almighty Power! then there it is our God-though we still cannot see His face, but we can see He is there, and in heaven all the angels there, and all the saints ,and one day He will change our perishable body to just like Him, this morning, when I open my eyes I praise our Father, I saw a red red rose and a lovely white lily, I thought that, I love rose and lily, O call me roselily or rose as before, or lily, that rebecca is before my English teacher she used to call me, it is not my name
Frank, I do not know what to call you; but I know that you are a Christian and my dear brother.
Dear Frank!
May God bless you!

I guess I want to call you by your real name as your mother would or another family member who knows you so well. For me this is “Frank”. If you will not allow me this privilege, I yield to your desires and will call you anything you like my dear. I won’t call you Rebecca. I love you.

 

[roselily]

Maybe it’s just because it’s late… what were you trying to tell me? I don’t get it…
What did that have to do with prayer to the saints?

Oh, Janet, I thought that- my posts answered all your questions!
Then truly there is nothing you got it? I have been typing lots words from Bible for you and felt quiet delight , I thought you got them all, , Yes, I was very, very sleepy last night-that I slept late , because it was annual firework from different country’s downstairs in beach, four days, and last night was Canada,
Celebration of Light,The Celebration of Light is an annual pyro-musical fireworks competition that takes place over Vancouver’s English Bay. every year from 4 different country…
Oh, back from it, I typed those words just for you before sleep, and this is your question:

I read it… and it does not talk about the deceased. Paul is talking about his brethren… those who are alive at his time…

I really don’t get it. She is dead and hopefully with God (if she actually got saved) and there is nothing anybody can do for her or obtain from her.

I can ask my sister to pray for me, but I cannot ask Mary to pray for me because she won’t hear me…

Paul had a vision about paradise… I never doubted that… But that does not have anything to do with praying to a saint to intercede for us… We can approach the throne boldly and this is what we should do. This does not have anything to do with the saints actually hearing us and interceding.

Oh, Most Holy Mother and all the Saints are there hear and pray for us! I type all those words from Bible just want you know that they are not dead, they are with Christ now in heaven. “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body”,
"So it is with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, ‘The first man,Adam, became a living being’; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first, but the physical, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so are those who are of the dust; and as is the man of heaven, so are those who are of heaven,. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we will also bear the image of the man of heaven.
What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the impersihable. Listen, I will tell you a mystery! We will not all die, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable body must put on imperishability, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When this perishable body puts on imperishability, and this mortal body puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will be fulfilled:‘Death has been swallowed up in victory.’
‘Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?’

-1 Corinthians 15:51-54

O Janet, Christ and Most Holy Mother and all Saints are in heaven now, they can hear us!
Don’t you think when Christians died, their spiritual body will going to heaven. Think of it:
Lily of the Mohawks’ have lived a short time on earth, but she is in heaven. there the Redeemer, kind and merciful. And there is no death there. through Christ, we have eternal life, think, then, dear Janet, if Christian died, the spiritual body will go to heaven!
eternal happiness, also some will not die on earth till His kingdom come! and Then He will made a new heaven and new kingdom, think, then, how happy we shall be. :angel1:

 

[Janet1983]

Oh, Janet, I thought that- my posts answered all your questions!
Then truly there is nothing you got it? I have been typing lots words from Bible for you and felt quiet delight , I thought you got them all, , Yes, I was very, very sleepy last night-that I slept late , because it was annual firework from different country’s downstairs in beach, four days, and last night was Canada,
Celebration of Light,The Celebration of Light is an annual pyro-musical fireworks competition that takes place over Vancouver’s English Bay. every year from 4 different country…
Oh, back from it, I typed those words just for you before sleep, and this is your question:

Must have been great… I love fireworks…

Oh, Most Holy Mother and all the Saints are there hear and pray for us! I type all those words from Bible just want you know that they are not dead, they are with Christ now in heaven. “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body”,
"So it is with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, ‘The first man,Adam, became a living being’; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first, but the physical, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so are those who are of the dust; and as is the man of heaven, so are those who are of heaven,. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we will also bear the image of the man of heaven.
What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the impersihable. Listen, I will tell you a mystery! We will not all die, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable body must put on imperishability, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When this perishable body puts on imperishability, and this mortal body puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will be fulfilled:‘Death has been swallowed up in victory.’
‘Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?’

-1 Corinthians 15:51-54

I appreciate you doing this all for me, but where in the text does it state that we are supposed to pray to the deceased saints and where are we told that they will hear us and intercede?

 

[roselily]

I guess I want to call you by your real name as your mother would or another family member who knows you so well. For me this is “Frank”. If you will not allow me this privilege, I yield to your desires and will call you anything you like my dear. I won’t call you Rebecca. I love you.

You were always good, and for that reason I look upon you as an older brother.
How you loved Most Holy Mother! I believe O Most Holy Mother often appears as an advocate of God’s mercy to those gentle people in the most need, she appeared to me and she loves me, thought I am not good. I want be good.
Thank you. I have not the same confidence in any one else’s gentleness as I have in yours, so I wished to tell you my mother from I was little until now always call me a name in English meaning is little flower, Oh, permit me not say in here, but I would rather like you call me as before-that I know you used call me : rose, and I liked it!
Oh, last night there is fire work,
Celebration of Light
image: Celebration of Light

The Celebration of Light is an annual pyro-musical fireworks competition that takes place over Vancouver’s English Bay.

2009 SCHEDULE

July 22 Canada

July 25 South Africa

July 29 United Kingdom

August 1 China

It was very beautiful , and meanwhile waves of people were flowing in from the beach. From street came the uproar and shouts of excited, some times I did not go down stairs to beach, I feared the many people all there whose uproar deprived of presence of mind; I usually like very quiet place, and ,but still want see it, that in balcony I just can see part of it, you know when I watched it, I say praise the LORD , praise the LORD in my heart, and thought of heaven and Holy Mother.