Catholics vs Mormons vs Protestants on the "Gates of Hell"

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I’m not sure what it means either. I’m very new to this site and the blogosphere. So I bleg your pardon.

I thought with over a thousand posts you might have had at least 1 friend already 😉
Well you are the first who liked me. 😉 I am a newbie too – I only joined 4 months ago. I just have a big mouth!
 
Well you are the first who liked me. 😉 I am a newbie too – I only joined 4 months ago. I just have a big mouth!
Well then welcome to us!

OK, since we are the body of Christ on earth I’ll think of you as the mouth, because of, well, its bigness. I’m open to be thought of any other part but please don’t consider any unseemly parts - I have been called all of them already.
 
So Mary is dead and doesn’t need oxygen, but Jesus is alive and needs oxygen? Just checking. I’m kinda worrying about if they all will be OK and all…
If you want to know what it’s like in heaven, you’re talking to the wrong guy. If you just want to be silly, you won’t mind if I don’t respond, will you?
 
If you want to know what it’s like in heaven, you’re talking to the wrong guy. If you just want to be silly, you won’t mind if I don’t respond, will you?
I’d be honored if you never responded to me again.

Silly? You are the one who said God needed oxygen so he could not have a body. Now you yourself cannot answer your own questions.
 
I have noticed that in arguments between Catholics and Mormons on apostolic succession, sooner or later the Catholic will bring up the “gates of hell” prophecy, “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”

This scripture seems to be the cornerstone to the Catholic belief that there would never be an apostasy of the Catholic church.
I don’t think it is the only one; as it has been pointed out.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

All days means all days, with no 1800 year gaps.
Because Mormons have no history, they must make up stuff which has no foundation in fact.
Jesus WAS with his children - all days-- but the priesthood was not.
 
I noticed something mfbukowski had said through Stephen’s post and something came to mind.
Originally Posted by mfbukowski
Jesus WAS with his children - all days-- but the priesthood was not.
If Jesus was the highpriest, how could He have been with His children, yet the priesthood was not? Don’t Mormons believe that Christ was the highpriest?

Happy Thankgiving to all.
 
Well, you don’t get it. It’s not true becaue it’s old, it’s old because it’s true. For some inexplicable reason you seem to think Jesus came to earth to form one Church and waited for 1800years to pass before calling it into existence in the person of an adulterer and a charletan. You should not join any church. You should stay right where you are since that is where you are content.

You offer no proof whatsoever that the Mormon sect is founded on anything but lies. You offer no proof whatsoever that the Catholic Church is not the one Church Jesus came to build.

How stupid is that?
Amen.
 
Kewl… Now if we could just narrow it down a bit. There are after all something like 35,000 “Christian” churches with ever changing doctrine…

Aw heck, maybe the easiest thing to do is to form a new church we’ll just say that this new Church is the “real” church. Puhleeeeezzze. Been there - done that - over and over and…
LMAO!

Amen again. 👍
 
You offer no proof whatsoever that the Mormon sect is founded on anything but lies. You offer no proof whatsoever that the Catholic Church is not the one Church Jesus came to build.

How stupid is that?
Name-calling, denigrating and labeling is the first and last resort of those that can’t argue the merits.
 
I noticed something mfbukowski had said through Stephen’s post and something came to mind.

If Jesus was the highpriest, how could He have been with His children, yet the priesthood was not? Don’t Mormons believe that Christ was the highpriest?

Happy Thankgiving to all.
Give me a break. Jesus never lost HIS priesthood, but it was lost on earth. Gee that was tough. He was not on earth as a high priest functioning as a human priest.
 
Give me a break. Jesus never lost HIS priesthood, but it was lost on earth. Gee that was tough. He was not on earth as a high priest functioning as a human priest.
You know, I almost didn’t post, seeing how this thread had denigrated. After seeing your response, I’m sorry I asked the question. I suggest you read back through your posts on the last few pages on this thread and see if you’re representative of what Mormonism is really all about. If it is, I’m really not interested in discussing it.
 
Name-calling, denigrating and labeling is the first and last resort of those that can’t argue the merits.
Whining, complaining, obfuscating, denying, dodging, ducking and refusing to argue the merits.

Do you believe your god came to earth and had intercourse with the Virgin Mary to conceive Jesus?
 
You know, I almost didn’t post, seeing how this thread had denigrated. After seeing your response, I’m sorry I asked the question. I suggest you read back through your posts on the last few pages on this thread and see if you’re representative of what Mormonism is really all about. If it is, I’m really not interested in discussing it.
Oh right. After all that has gone under the bridge between us, now you take the high road.

That’s laughable.
 
Oh right. After all that has gone under the bridge between us, now you take the high road.

That’s laughable.
Laughable? Bob Hope and Bing Crosby laughable? Ye want me to take the high road and ye’ll take the low road?

By yon bonnie banks,
And by yon bonnie braes,
Where the sun shines bright on Loch Lomond,
Where me and my true love
Were ever want to gae,
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.

Oh! ye’ll take the high road and
I’ll take the low road,
And I’ll be in Scotland afore ye;
But me and my true love
Will never meet again
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.

'Twas then that we parted
In yon shady glen,
On the steep, steep side of Ben Lomond,
Where in purple hue
The Highland hills we view,
And the moon coming out in the gloaming.

Oh! ye’ll take the high road and
I’ll take the low road,
And I’ll be in Scotland afore ye;
But me and my true love
Will never meet again
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.

The wee birdie sang
And the wild flowers spring,
And in sunshine the waters are sleeping,
But the broken heart it kens
Nae second Spring again,
Tho’ the waeful may cease frae their greeting.

Oh! ye’ll take the high road and
I’ll take the low road,
And I’ll be in Scotland afore ye;
But me and my true love
Will never meet again
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.

😛
 
Whining, complaining, obfuscating, denying, dodging, ducking and refusing to argue the merits.

Do you believe your god came to earth and had intercourse with the Virgin Mary to conceive Jesus?
No he came to earth because he couldn’t breathe.

No oxygen in heaven. You are disgusting. We believe in the virgin birth. Don’t bring it up again.
 
No he came to earth because he couldn’t breathe.

No oxygen in heaven. You are disgusting. We believe in the virgin birth. Don’t bring it up again.
Can you explain the Mormon view of the virgin conception to us?
 
Same as yours. Holy Spirit came over Mary and a miracle occured. That’s enough of this. If you want to carry it on, it’s on you
Can’t bring yourself to stop the condescending tone? I asked an honest question to avoid looking up the answers supplied by anti-Mormon websites. Seems I had read a couple of controversial explanations in the past, but never paid much attention to them. If you’d prefer Catholics seek answers through those sources, it’s on you. 🤷
 
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