Catholics who vote for those who kill the innocent are-

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But you can do both. Teach family values, and subsidize maternity services, and prevent even more abortions than if you just did one of those things.
 
Maybe it could be added to the Dem Party platform. If they are going to pay for everything else, what’s one more item?
 
Or it could be added to the Rep party platform since they want to do away with most abortions.

Or here is a novel idea. The two parties could decide to work together on reasonable methods to limit abortions. But that isn’t going to happen because it is a good topic to get votes at election time.
 
It isn’t going to happen because there are no Democratic legislators who want to do anything to discourage abortion. They want it unlimited, free, and not even rare.
 
Not a helpful topic for the babies being killed to just limit abortion.
May be we should invite all democrats and republicans to pray and fast to end abortion. And some will laugh, ridicule and grin at such an idea.
 
@Dobby The priests job is not to give you advice, but to bring you to Christ, to holiness and to show you the path of salvation. The path of salvation is to follow Jesus, the Son of God, who suffered, died and rose from the dead for our salvation and for the salvation of the world.
Thou shall not kill is a commandment from God… not a suggestion, or a little advice on how to feel better. It is wise advice if any of us hope to get to heaven.
And priests have the responsibility before God, and before the Church as to how they have served the people of God in their daily lives as a priest. And one of those responsibilities is to remind their people, teach their people about the commandments…Thou shall not kill …
 
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farronwolf said:
Is the Church willing to help any and all people who have children and can not afford the prenatal and birth cost, along with child care or other things to ensure the child is cared for properly until adulthood.
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The Church is willing, able, and already doing this. If there are people not being helped, it is likely that they are unaware of the resources available to them and thus unable to ask for help.
 
JimG said:
It isn’t going to happen because there are no Democratic legislators who want to do anything to discourage abortion. They want it unlimited, free, and not even rare.
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This is correct. The right of human subjection…The right of an individual to subject the life of another human being to his own will…

This is the sacred cow (pun intended) of the supposedly irreligious secular movement. This sacred cow is tended with a religious reverence that would make the most radical religious fundamentalist blush with humility.
And dissent from the right to radical individualism is seen as heresy.
(and it’s not really a democrat-republican issue. It’s an issue that plagues our society across political lines…one party just has it expressed explicitly in it’s platform)
 
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JimG said:
It isn’t going to happen because there are no Democratic legislators who want to do anything to discourage abortion. They want it unlimited, free, and not even rare.
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There is no indication that any Democrat wants abortion to be common. It would be like saying that promoting free and unrestricted treatment of broken legs in hospitals means that person wants to see broken legs be a common occurrence.
 
Would you post links to the contact info for the agency who administers Church’s help for child care and support until adulthood for families with children? My Diocese does not have such a program, is it administered nationally?
 
I’m not seeing child care and supplemental income on that website.
 
“Available family-related assistance includes housing and homeless services; counseling and psychiatry; maternity and pregnancy services for women in crisis pregnancies; adoption support and services for those wishing to develop an adoption plan for their child and those wishing to adopt; foster care support and services; case management; family education; legal representation; and direct assistance.”

I think that would fall under “direct assistance”

In addition to Catholic Charities, there are other organizations that fall under the diocesan umbrella, such as the Society of St. Vincent DePaul that help families as well.
 
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I did call, they do not offer daycare vouchers and they only work with local people.
 
Our Diocese does not offer childcare vouchers or ongoing supplemental income. Only emergency assist, and that is limited to once per year.

The above was not talking about emergency assistance, every Community has ER programs. Ongoing assist, child care, etc. was the topic.
farronwolf said:
Is the Church willing to help any and all people who have children and can not afford the prenatal and birth cost, along with child care or other things to ensure the child is cared for properly until adulthood.
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JanetF said:
The Church is willing, able, and already doing this. If there are people not being helped, it is likely that they are unaware of the resources available to them and thus unable to ask for help.
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I work with families in need of both childcare and supplemental income to make sure their child is cared for.
 
I did not make the claim, when one makes a claim it is expected they have the proof.

It seems sometimes people have heard/read that “The Church gives this” or “The government pays for that” and they might not have done the due diligence to see if these things actually are available. It helps to talk to people who do outreach, who really know the programs that are available and the gaping holes that exist in the real USA.
 
My past two decades have been spent in outreach and raising funds for outreach.

This does not change the fact that childcare and other expenses are needed in our nation.
 
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