Cause for Bishop Sheen on hold?

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What a pity. I hope that the dispute, which seems trivial to me, is resolved soon.
 
As someone who has been deeply touched by Bishop Sheen I could care less where he was born, or where he died, or where he is interred.

I do get the idea that he spent very little time actually in Peoria, but I personally could care less one way or the other, one side or the other.

Bishop Sheen belongs to God. Not to Peoria or NYC, or any other place here on earth.

I do understand that Peoria has been footing the bill, and that is not a small bill. I can understand where that is a lot of sacrifice on their part.
 
I can’t believe what I am reading. I would appreciate if someone can explain to me why having Bishop Sheen’s remains in New York would be a problem for his beatification when the Diocese of Peoria is leading the cause. However, I can’t understand how the New York Diocese would refuse to send his remains to Peoria?
 
I’ve been told since it was the Diocese of Peoria had opened the cause that they have a “right” to his remains. And apparently they want his remains.

Im left with the question of did Bishop Sheen ever express a desire where he wanted his body to be buried one way or the other? He he did express a personal desire, those wishes should be respected, as I feel anyone’s wishes should be honored.

But I dont know if he ever said one way or the other where he wanted to be buried.
 
canadianguy1143 said:
I can’t believe what I am reading. I would appreciate if someone can explain to me why having Bishop Sheen’s remains in New York would be a problem for his beatification when the Diocese of Peoria is leading the cause. However, I can’t understand how the New York Diocese would refuse to send his remains to Peoria?
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I believe money is probably a factor. The Peoria Diocese is not particularly well off. The New York Diocese is much large, and presumably has a lot more resources. So Peoria is effectively saying that if New York wants to “claim” Bishop Sheen they should pay for the process. If they are refusing to pay, then they should let him be sent home. I know it seems petty, but I understand it. Diocese these days have limited resources.
 
Marie5890 said:
I’ve been told since it was the Diocese of Peoria had opened the cause that they have a “right” to his remains. And apparently they want his remains.

Im left with the question of did Bishop Sheen ever express a desire where he wanted his body to be buried one way or the other? He he did express a personal desire, those wishes should be respected, as I feel anyone’s wishes should be honored.

But I dont know if he ever said one way or the other where he wanted to be buried.
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Thanks for the info.

One would have to believe Bishop Sheen would be fine with the transferral of his remains since the reason is for his canonization, no? Also, if technically Peoria has a “right” to his remains, why does the Archbishop of NY have the power to deny this right?

I’m really confused as to why Bishop Dolan would be creating an obstacle. EWTN’s Fr. Apostoli must be upset; I think he was working on Sheen’s cause.
 
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One would have to believe Bishop Sheen would be fine with the transferral of his remains since the reason is for his canonization, no? .
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I can’t make that assumption that Sheen would be fine one way or the other.

He may truly have wanted to be interred exactly where he is, in St Patrick’s Cathedral. Most of priesthood years was in NYC and it has been said the loved the city.

We simply dont know what he wanted. It would be nice if it was known, that would be made clear to all of us and that his wishes be respected. At least IMO.
 
TMC said:
I believe money is probably a factor. The Peoria Diocese is not particularly well off. The New York Diocese is much large, and presumably has a lot more resources. So Peoria is effectively saying that if New York wants to “claim” Bishop Sheen they should pay for the process. If they are refusing to pay, then they should let him be sent home. I know it seems petty, but I understand it. Diocese these days have limited resources.
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I can completely believe it comes down to the $$$$$…and I can fully understand that NYC is far better off to carry the $$$ burden than Peoria…

Sometimes, even within the Church, money IS an issue that has it’s influence and cant be ignored…

I just feel bad for Bishop Sheen…I have such great respect for the man…

Discipleship to Our Lord, profound devotion to Our Lady and salvation of the souls of men was the fabric of his very life and ministry.
 
Truth_Fully said:
I’m really confused as to why Bishop Dolan would be creating an obstacle. EWTN’s Fr. Apostoli must be upset; I think he was working on Sheen’s cause.
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Yes, Fr Apostoli is one of those working for the cause.

As far as it being Archbishop Dolan creating an obstacle, I dont know if that is fact.

Again, we dont know the wishes of Bishop Sheen. He may very well have wanted to be interred at the Cathedral and the Archbishop is respecting those wishes.

We simply dont know.
 
Marie5890 said:
I can completely believe it comes down to the $$$$$…and I can fully understand that NYC is far better off to carry the $$$ burden than Peoria…

Sometimes, even within the Church, money IS an issue that has it’s influence and cant be ignored…

I just feel bad for Bishop Sheen…I have such great respect for the man…

Discipleship to Our Lord, profound devotion to Our Lady and salvation of the souls of men was the fabric of his very life and ministry.
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Fortunately, he is in a place where the passage of time is not such a pressing issue. I don’t think a year or so here or there will matter to him. Could matter to those still here that remember him, though.
 
Normally the living should respect the reasonable wishes of the dead with regard to being buried. Perhaps Bishop Sheen did want to be buried in New York.

However, since Canonization is a big thing, I believe that since Peoria took up the initiative, they should be allowed to supersede Sheen’s desire. Sheen, when he expressed his desire as to where he wants to be buried, would never have conceived that Peoria would take up his canonization and Sheen would never take Canonization in his thought process when he expressed that wish.

I look forward to reading more about this from people who more familiar with the Sheen Canonization process.
 
canadianguy1143 said:
Normally the living should respect the reasonable wishes of the dead with regard to being buried. Perhaps Bishop Sheen did want to be buried in New York.

However, since Canonization is a big thing, I believe that since Peoria took up the initiative, they should be allowed to supersede Sheen’s desire. Sheen, when he expressed his desire as to where he wants to be buried, would never have conceived that Peoria would take up his canonization and Sheen would never take Canonization in his thought process when he expressed that wish.

I look forward to reading more about this from people who more familiar with the Sheen Canonization process.
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I do understand what you are saying here Canadianguy.

I guess I am just more interested in God’s will, Bishop’s wishes more so than the human and frail egos of humans here who feel they have “right” one way or the other, to things…

Jesus Christ as the Son of God had more rights than any of us

I dont expect much will be said at this point by anyone who was involved in his canonization process.

For me Im just profoundly disappointed. This man has had just a deep impact on my life.
 
After re-reading the immediate release statement by the Cause on their website it just sounds like they are ending their end and hope that NYC will pick it up.

They do sound disappointed but not discouraged. Sounds like they came to the conclusion since they wont be getting his relics they just as soon stop their end and let NYC pick up the rest and see it across the finish line.

I can completely understand that. 👍
 
I was born in the Peoria Diocese and was living there when the Sheen canonization effort began. I personally knew one of the priests who worked on his cause, and I also strongly suspect I may be distantly related to Bp. Sheen. That being said…

Normally a bishop or prelate is buried in the diocese they retired from or where they were living when they died. Bishop Sheen died in New York and spent much of his ministry there so it would be fine with me if he stayed there.

What I suspect is happening here is that Bishop Jenky of Peoria is dropping a very, very strong hint to the NYC Archdiocese that it’s time for them to pick up the ball on this cause if they want it to go forward. I understand that Abp. Dolan of NYC is also a pretty big Sheen fan so I’m betting he will pick up this cause without too much delay. If I’m wrong I’ll eat my hat (if I had one) 🙂
 
ewtnnews.com/new.php?id=2133

Just wanted to update with the latest info…

It could be that Bishop Sheen did have a desire to be buried at St Pat’s.

Also it never occured to me that he was concecrated a bishop in NY as a reason either…
 
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