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I don’t see it in the article - where did you learn that Drake is LDS?
 
The Salt Lake Tribune had this story in March 2009. The full story is in the (paid) archives, but here are the first few paragraphs:

Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT)
Date: March 6, 2009
Catholic agency headed by its first Mormon

Brad Drake figures it is something of a miracle that brought him to Catholic Community Services, the social service arm of the Catholic Church in Utah. After all, Drake is a lifelong and devout Mormon, a former bishop.

“Why would someone of the LDS faith be in this position?” Drake asks. “It’s probably a miracle and I say that in my behalf.”

Drake, of Layton, was hired as executive director by the CCS board of trustees last summer after a search that attracted about 30 applicants.

“It was the feeling of all of us that Brad stood out head and shoulders above the others because he clearly understood our mission,” said the Rev. Monsignor Terrence Fitzgerald, vicar general for the Diocese of Salt Lake City and a member of the CCS board…

“Our mission is not to proselytize or to make people Catholic, but to serve all those in need in any way we can,” Fitzgerald said.
 
Sorry if this is old news, I just saw it.
Catholic Community Services welcomes Brad Drake (LDS)

It speaks highly of the Catholic Church leadership.
I don’t see this as surprising or unusual, I think if you look at Catholic hospitals, charities, schools, universities and such you will find that these organizations hire people who are qualified. That being a Catholic may a tipping point in the event of equally qualified candidates it is not a requirement. For some reason I’ve always assumed that all religious charities operated this way, don’t they?.
 
I think that in the years to come we shall see more active cooperation between Catholics and Mormons.
4 Nephi 1:15 “And it came to pass that there was no contention in the land, because of the love of God which did dwell in the hearts of the people.”
 
The Salt Lake Tribune had this story in March 2009. The full story is in the (paid) archives, but here are the first few paragraphs:

Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT)
Date: March 6, 2009
Catholic agency headed by its first Mormon

Brad Drake figures it is something of a miracle that brought him to Catholic Community Services, the social service arm of the Catholic Church in Utah. After all, Drake is a lifelong and devout Mormon, a former bishop.

“Why would someone of the LDS faith be in this position?” Drake asks. “It’s probably a miracle and I say that in my behalf.”

Drake, of Layton, was hired as executive director by the CCS board of trustees last summer after a search that attracted about 30 applicants.

“It was the feeling of all of us that Brad stood out head and shoulders above the others because he clearly understood our mission,” said the Rev. Monsignor Terrence Fitzgerald, vicar general for the Diocese of Salt Lake City and a member of the CCS board…

“Our mission is not to proselytize or to make people Catholic, but to serve all those in need in any way we can,” Fitzgerald said.
But i thought the mission of the Church and all its organization was to work together for the conversion of man. is it not? when did that change. has the CC giving up on converting people to the Faith?
 
4 Nephi 1:15 “And it came to pass that there was no contention in the land, because of the love of God which did dwell in the hearts of the people.”
Thank you. I actually think that Catholics and Mormons have a lot in common.
 
That makes Catholicism strikingly different than LDS.
Except that he isn’t talking about the mission of “The Catholic Church”, but the mission of a specific organization.

Or are you saying that we should be relativistic in our approach to the Great Commission?
 
Except that he isn’t talking about the mission of “The Catholic Church”, but the mission of a specific organization.

Or are you saying that we should be relativistic in our approach to the Great Commission?
Does the LDS church have any separate charitable organizations in which they would consider hiring a non-LDS to head the effort? Is there any situation where the LDS church would hire a non-LDS in a position of authority over LDS church members or funds? I think that is the point the posters were trying make and I don’t think the LDS church would ever turn over leadership of any sort of organization under their auspices to anyone who was not a member.

Proselytizing people who are in need of social services is the same as looking through obits and targeting the families who lost loved ones for proselytizing. It is not fulfilling the great commission, it is nothing more than the emotional manipulation of people as their most vulnerable.
 
Does the LDS church have any separate charitable organizations in which they would consider hiring a non-LDS to head the effort? Is there any situation where the LDS church would hire a non-LDS in a position of authority over LDS church members or funds? I think that is the point the posters were trying make and I don’t think the LDS church would ever turn over leadership of any sort of organization under their auspices to anyone who was not a member.

Proselytizing people who are in need of social services is the same as looking through obits and targeting the families who lost loved ones for proselytizing. It is not fulfilling the great commission, it is nothing more than the emotional manipulation of people as their most vulnerable.
Your post, here, is about as dismissive, disrespectful and insulting as it is possible to be, and still remain withing moderation guidelines…that is, IF it remains in moderation guidelines. (shrug)

Perhaps you should think, before you worry about whether Mormons hire non-Mormons to administer charitable organizations within the church, about the difference between the way we approach things like this. For instance, you may be right about the dearth of non-Mormon heads of charitable organizations, but not for the reason you imply; most, if not ALL, such positions are volunteer, UNPAID, callings. Not a lot of non-Mormons applying for such unpaid positions. Those positions which are full time are generally filled, also, by Mormons who have been ‘called…’ as missionaries specifically for that purpose. They pay most, if not all, their own way. Some of us save up for decades so that we can serve such missions…the way others save up for the retirement cabin in the woods.

So there is that…and then you might want to think about the implications of the sheer numbers involved here. There are a BILLION Catholics on this planet. A billion. That means that for every Mormon on earth, there are nearly 72 Catholics.

Given these facts, if I were to respond to your post in the same spirit it was made, I could point out that, after all, this group skipped over all those Catholics and hired a Mormon. I could figure that the reason this was done was because they couldn’t FIND a Catholic. If THEY could not find a Catholic to head this organization, but did find a Mormon, why in the world would a Mormon organization, knowing that the Catholics couldn’t find one of their own but DID find one of ours, go looking? I could theorize that if the right Catholic to do this could have been found, then the Catholics would have done so. Why should we reinvent the wheel…re-search the already searched? In other words, if the CAtholics couldn’t find a Catholic to head one of their charitable organizations, why should WE be forced to hire one of your rejects?

Now, I do understand quite well that it’s not that simple; this hiring choice wasn’t about “Mormon” vs. “Catholic.” It was about getting the right person, and that person just happened to be Mormon, not Catholic. I don’t for a single second think that there aren’t many Catholics who could, and would, do a marvelous job heading that organization–or volunteering for ours (in fact, many do just that.) It’s just that, evidently, none of those Catholics were in SLC, or wanted to go there and do that.

What I am saying, Z, is that when you start throwing around the bitter accusations and snide comments, you leave yourself open to responses that probably won’t make you feel better.
 
Does the LDS church have any separate charitable organizations in which they would consider hiring a non-LDS to head the effort? Is there any situation where the LDS church would hire a non-LDS in a position of authority over LDS church members or funds? I think that is the point the posters were trying make and I don’t think the LDS church would ever turn over leadership of any sort of organization under their auspices to anyone who was not a member.
I asked the same question several months ago and never received an answer. I can only assume at this point the answer in ‘no’ they do not.
 
I asked the same question several months ago and never received an answer. I can only assume at this point the answer in ‘no’ they do not.
I don’t know what has actually transpired
  • I do see most positions are volunteer and doubt Catholics would offer to serve
  • For paid positions, I hope LDS would hire the best candidate for the job but have no example
In this particular case, I speculate that being LDS may have been an advantage to a service org that needed to navigate other resources and agencies primarily led by LDS.
This is pure speculation since I have no knowledge what challenges the Utah CSS has been facing in excecution of their mission.
 
I don’t know what has actually transpired
You really don’t have to know what has transpired to answer the question(s). You are the second Mormon to post but not answer on this thread. On the other thread I posted almost the same question and it was never answered either, so I can only assume the answer is ‘no.’ It would be nice if a Mormon could confirm my assumption but at this point I doubt it will happen.
 
Stephen
Please start your own thread if you want to insist people address YOUR specific question.
I also suggest you consider that nobody knows the answer to your question, no consipiracy here.
You really don’t have to know what has transpired to answer the question(s). You are the second Mormon to post but not answer on this thread. On the other thread I posted almost the same question and it was never answered either, so I can only assume the answer is ‘no.’ It would be nice if a Mormon could confirm my assumption but at this point I doubt it will happen.
 
You really don’t have to know what has transpired to answer the question(s). You are the second Mormon to post but not answer on this thread. On the other thread I posted almost the same question and it was never answered either, so I can only assume the answer is ‘no.’ It would be nice if a Mormon could confirm my assumption but at this point I doubt it will happen.
Do not ever assume that a non-answer is a “no” answer.

Why don’t you do your own research? Go to lds.org and look under 'service missionaries," where you will find many of the opportunities available for those who are looking for a way to serve; they are missionaries; service missionaries who become 'Bishop Storehouse managers," “Pathway Program” teachers and reps, who provide online classes to people who might not otherwise go to college; employment resource workers; agricultural teachers and farmers; other charitable organizations. Deseret Industries, our church wide ‘thrift’ store and training facility, uses volunteer workers only–unless you are one of the people for whom the store was begun to HELP, in which case you get paid.

So your question wasn’t answered–not because the answer is ‘no,’ but because the question makes no sense in context; since we really don’t do a lot of hiring, then it’s rather uselss to ask if we hire a bunch of non-Mormons for administrative positions. We do have non-Mormon volunteers, though.
 
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