Chapel Veils

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I’d to pose a question to the posters, especially to the women on the forum.

What do you guys think of Chapel Veils? I’ve seen them at both the OF and the EF, so can we not make this a solely “traditionalist” issue as far as this discussion is concerned?

Was I right in encouraging my wife to wear the Chapel Veil? I’m not exactly strict in my parenting of my daughter and both of them boss me around on plenty of occasions (I get run ragged if you ask me), so it’s not an issue of dominance or anything. I initially encouraged it because I was worried not having one would make her insecure when we switched to a traditional parish. Did I do something wrong? Sometimes I feel a little guilty for encouraging this, concerning some of the negative things a lot of people say about the practice.

Are they outdated? What’s the official stance on these? Should they be forgotten? Should they be universally restored in the Latin Rite? Should people get to choose? Do women wear these at your Church?

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PrayforMallory said:
I’d to pose a question to the posters, especially to the women on the forum.

What do you guys think of Chapel Veils? I’ve seen them at both the OF and the EF, so can we not make this a solely “traditionalist” issue as far as this discussion is concerned?

Was I right in encouraging my wife to wear the Chapel Veil? I’m not exactly strict in my parenting of my daughter and both of them boss me around on plenty of occasions (I get run ragged if you ask me), so it’s not an issue of dominance or anything. I initially encouraged it because I was worried not having one would make her insecure when we switched to a traditional parish. Did I do something wrong? Sometimes I feel a little guilty for encouraging this, concerning some of the negative things a lot of people say about the practice.

Are they outdated? What’s the official stance on these? Should they be forgotten? Should they be universally restored in the Latin Rite? Should people get to choose? Do women wear these at your Church?

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Hi PFM! My wife wear a veil for Mass, she has 4 different colors. Check this site for information on the Chapel Veil. Very Good & I think you’ll really enjoy it.👍
christianfamilyoutreach.com/pamphlets/theveil.pdf
 
I am a 19 year old girl who would like to see chapel veils return to the norm! 😉
 
Alycin said:
I am a 19 year old girl who would like to see chapel veils return to the norm! 😉
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Awesome. Makes me feel better.

I just don’t wanna ever be labeled as sexist in any way. I just want to kindle the faith in my kid as best I can.
 
PrayforMallory said:
Awesome. Makes me feel better.

I just don’t wanna ever be labeled as sexist in any way. I just want to kindle the faith in my kid as best I can.
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Here is my take:

If you kind of “insist” on your daughter(s) wearing one when the other women aren’t, you run the risk of making her feel uncomfortable in Mass and therefore not being able to focus, and also she might feel a resentment attached to the veil later on in life.

If the other women (or at least a lot of them) are wearing them in your parish, I can’t see how encouraging her to wear one would raise any problems.

🙂
 
A few weeks ago I attended a TLM at our Cathedral and I’d say half of the women and girls wore veils and half did not. Everyone was accepting of each other and comfortable in each other’s presence.

In many diocesan parishes a woman with a mantilla might bring attention to herself. But if she believes it is more pleasing to our Lord, then she shouldn’t care what others think. In fact, the presence of a few veils in the pews might encourage others to do the same.

The problem comes when people see headcovering as a dogma instead of a discipline. They say they wear their veils out of obedience to St. Paul and out of humility. Then they end up puffed up with pride. In this case it’s almost better to go without one.

Back in the old days we girls folded up kleenex or handkerchiefs so many times it was barely noticeable on the head. We used to laugh about it, seeing who could make the tiniest triangle. Again, in this case it is better to do without.
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I cover my head with a chapel veil or mantilla at every Mass. Jesus is just as present an OF as He is at an EF Mass, He deserves the same respect regardless of the form.

I came to the decision to cover my head myself, but my husband 100% supports this, and he personally believes that all women should do this, but that is for another thread. 😉 But he never has insisted.

I have a pretty good collection of veils, some are beautiful old vintage lace, and some are new that take a bit more of a beating when in the purse or console of the car. The older more beautiful ones I keep for special occasions like a baptism or wedding.

Check out eBay for a seller called Catholic Traditions. She makes really beautiful veils in just about any color and size you can possibly need.

Here is a link to her store: stores.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS

~Liza
 
Yes, it is a very good and holy practice to use a veil.

But it shouldn’t be forced or those who do not use a veil should never be looked down upon. There are many who do not wear one because of various reasons and just because they do not wear them they should not be badgered.

A veil is in recognition of the presence of Angels at Mass and a beautiful way to express the reality of the Holiness of the Mass and above all else the Presence of Christ.

In some parishes, holiness is something that is forgotten and reverence has taken a backseat to silly and very stupid actions instead of focusing on Christ. It is almost unreasonable to expect any woman to wear a veil or a man to dress up nice, as most people in those parishes probably do not see the Mass as Holy and worship requiring respect. Belief in the Real Presence, respect of the Mass and a reflection of that belief in your dress and actions all work together.

When we started abusing the Mass people lost respect for dressing in reflection of their respect for Christ.

God Bless
Scylla
 
I attend a TLM and most of the women wear some sort of head covering (veils, hats, scarves), but it is not “required” and it is not an issue at all. I love wearing a mantilla and have several of them. One thing I have noticed is that more and more women are starting to wear them.
 
Alycin said:
Here is my take:

If you kind of “insist” on your daughter(s) wearing one when the other women aren’t, you run the risk of making her feel uncomfortable in Mass and therefore not being able to focus, and also she might feel a resentment attached to the veil later on in life.

If the other women (or at least a lot of them) are wearing them in your parish, I can’t see how encouraging her to wear one would raise any problems.

🙂
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Virtually every woman, including all the little girls, wears one at our parish.

I wasn’t going to get her to wear one initially, but when her mother did, she asked for one.

I think some of it at least initially had to do with her obsession with the Disney Princess product line, so maybe that’s a negative, but she is totally used to it by now.

As a matter of fact, she would feel out of place if she didn’t wear one.

I’m just not a sexist in any way.
 
Ohwesty said:
A few weeks ago I attended a TLM at our Cathedral and I’d say half of the women and girls wore veils and half did not. Everyone was accepting of each other and comfortable in each other’s presence.

In many diocesan parishes a woman with a mantilla might bring attention to herself. But if she believes it is more pleasing to our Lord, then she shouldn’t care what others think. In fact, the presence of a few veils in the pews might encourage others to do the same.

The problem comes when people see headcovering as a dogma instead of a discipline. They say they wear their veils out of obedience to St. Paul and out of humility. Then they end up puffed up with pride. In this case it’s almost better to go without one.

Back in the old days we girls folded up kleenex or handkerchiefs so many times it was barely noticeable on the head. We used to laugh about it, seeing who could make the tiniest triangle. Again, in this case it is better to do without.
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Point duly taken. Thanks.
 
lizaanne said:
I cover my head with a chapel veil or mantilla at every Mass. Jesus is just as present an OF as He is at an EF Mass, He deserves the same respect regardless of the form.

I came to the decision to cover my head myself, but my husband 100% supports this, and he personally believes that all women should do this, but that is for another thread. 😉 But he never has insisted.

I have a pretty good collection of veils, some are beautiful old vintage lace, and some are new that take a bit more of a beating when in the purse or console of the car. The older more beautiful ones I keep for special occasions like a baptism or wedding.

Check out eBay for a seller called Catholic Traditions. She makes really beautiful veils in just about any color and size you can possibly need.

Here is a link to her store: stores.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS

~Liza
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Awesome thanks.
 
I live across the street from a Norbertine abbey and the women there wear veils (Mass is in Latin as well 😃 ). There are four “normal” Catholic parishes in the general area and I’m familiar with the congregation of each, and I can guarantee that it wouldn’t catch on at any of them, certainly not with the youth.

I would love to see it happen though. I really would.
 
scylla said:
Yes, it is a very good and holy practice to use a veil.

But it shouldn’t be forced or those who do not use a veil should never be looked down upon. There are many who do not wear one because of various reasons and just because they do not wear them they should not be badgered.

A veil is in recognition of the presence of Angels at Mass and a beautiful way to express the reality of the Holiness of the Mass and above all else the Presence of Christ.

In some parishes, holiness is something that is forgotten and reverence has taken a backseat to silly and very stupid actions instead of focusing on Christ. It is almost unreasonable to expect any woman to wear a veil or a man to dress up nice, as most people in those parishes probably do not see the Mass as Holy and worship requiring respect. Belief in the Real Presence, respect of the Mass and a reflection of that belief in your dress and actions all work together.

When we started abusing the Mass people lost respect for dressing in reflection of their respect for Christ.

God Bless
Scylla
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I think you summed it up really well.

I noticed a lot of people wore them at the EWTN daily Mass, so it can be worn at both forms.
 
nannygirl said:
I attend a TLM and most of the women wear some sort of head covering (veils, hats, scarves), but it is not “required” and it is not an issue at all. I love wearing a mantilla and have several of them. One thing I have noticed is that more and more women are starting to wear them.
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That’s definitely true. This time last year I didn’t even know what they were.

Thanks.
 
I love the chapel veil. I used to wear one during prayer when I was a little girl (could not attend mass. My family did not support my being Catholic). I don’t wear one to mass yet, but am thinking of beginning the practice. There are several who do in my parish.
 
For anyone who is interested, this lady makes beautiful mantillas: halo-works.com/

The tulle ones stay on my head very nicely with no need of pins. 🙂
 
I wear a veil at both forms of the Mass. I believe it makes God happy for me to wear it.
 
Question: Does the color of the veil mean anything? I thought that maidens wear white and married women wear black, as these are the only 2 colors I have seen. I would like to get one for my wife and mother-in-law. What are the opinions on color?

My instinct is to get black. Thanks.
 
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