I don’t think that the pope was actually referring to the Catholic Charismatic Renewal though in that article. He was referring to non-catholic charismatic sects that tend to draw people away from the sacraments.
The important point of this post is the reawakening of the gifts each of us has received through Baptism and Confirmation. None of us is in a position to judge how God is working in another person’s life. Each of us has been called by God. Salvation is a lifetime journey, not a one time event.
Have you read what the church teaches about the Catholic Charismatic Renewal though? I am not sure that you understand that this is an approved movement that the Popes all support.
The graces someone has received in the sacraments can really remain inactive in us who are not desiring them. Does that mean that the sacrament did not do it’s job? of course not! But remember, we cannot fall into the error of sola-sacramentum! LOL we must also have faith in sacraments as well as receive them.
Okay well here is an example:
As a Charismatic, I have to say, you truly do not know what you are talking about with the first part of your sentence. For the last part, what in heaven do you mean, unfortunately he is already present. Fortunately God is present for all of us as you said in the Eucharist and as you described in the things WE the Church treasured since Jesus walked among us.
After 28 years in the Charismatic movement, I must humbly confess that the only one of these I have ever seen was speaking in tongues. The things you describe have never been part of anything I have ever seen, except speaking in tongues. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit we ALL receive in Baptism and Confirmation. This was told to me today by a priest I know who has been Charismatic since 1970± when the Charismatic movement first started. I discussed these issues of the barking, etc with him and all he did was roll his eyes and said, "don’t waste your time trying to defend untruths like that but simply pray for them They will believe whatever they choose to believe. So I can say with firmness, YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS.
Are you saying that the Novus Ordo is not a valid mass, that only the Latin Mass is valid. If that is the case sonny boy, let me tell you that I will listen to you when you are a member of the Magisterium and are under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Until, then, I wont call this the barking of a dog, but it sounds like one howling at the moon.
Deacon Ed B, I am behind you 100%. The post you replied to was a blanket condemnation of use of the charisms we receive through baptism and confirmation. There is a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding about the use of the charisms being bandied about. However, the release of those very gifts in me rendered a total transformation of my faith.
You don’t think that the renewal is important, okay well fine. But do you know at least understand that what we are doing is trying to bring people to faith in God’s marvelous gifts?
Well then you have shown where your loyalty lies, and it is not with the last three popes and the church. I am sorry to say that you need a good confession and you need to turn back to the church. Because if any of those popes were standing next to you saying what they have said, and then you responded the way you just did, you would be outta here my brother.