Chastity and my boyfriend

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Ok ok, let’s us all try to remain a little charitable. We cannot judge the hearts of these two.

“let he who is without sin cast the first stone!”

Remember that he who sins becomes a slave to that sin. I’m almost certain this boy is a pretty nice guy, but he has some pretty ugly sins that have to be cleaned up. Love the sinner hate the sin. Jackie, you will be doing your boyfriend the honor of a lifetime by making him wait, and he will thank you for it for the rest of his life.
 
LOL, Fr. Corapi is the best! I love watching his tapes. He played a huge part in my spiritual journey. I watched his conversion story, and it really got to me. Also, there is something about hearing a man who has been through Vietnam, through the corporate battleground to success, and to the bottom of the barrel (homelessness and drug addiction) talk about the greatest war to ever be and how we are all called to fight. How inspiring!

Don’t worry, my gf made me edit my earlier post, I am a bit of a mini-Corapi too 😃 (apparently i sound just like him sometimes, haha)

We don’t want to scare the poor girl away though :eek:
 
So, that’s how he wants to show you that he loves you? I think that is how he showed a previous girl or girls that he loved them. So, if now that is what he is telling you he thinks love is, then he is totally clueless. You have it completely right…if he loves you, then he would be willing to sacrifice for you.

Please, don’t jeopardize your future. Don’t get involved with this boy. Save yourself for the man who will be your husband.
I completely agree. Sweetheart, pray hard everyday. And stay clear of tempting situations. God IS LOVE - HE knows what true love is. He showed us on the CROSS. Really LOOK at a Crucifix and pray that God shows you the message of True Love. Crucify the desires of the flesh. If you sow in the flesh, you will reap death - God will not be mocked.

If your boyfriend doesn’t get it, as hard as it would be, you’d have to cut him off. Better to enter heaven with one hand than Hell with two… I’ve been there. It ripped my heart out, but it was the right thing to do. Now I’m married to the right man, who though he’d had sex before marriage, had truly repented and he respects me for my committment to chastity.

God bless you with HIS peace! Shalom!

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Dear Jackie.:heaven:
I’ve been in your situation and let myself get so tempted that I lost my innocense. Since then I suffered more than I can ever express because of it. In the heat of the moment you think you are still the same person after having been intimate with a man… for me I have used months and years of my life trying to recover from depressions not unlike post abortion syndrome because of not avoiding the occasion leading to sin although I knew I did not want to have sex… :doh2: Its a tragedy.
I would give the world to have what you have.
You are only 18. I am 25. that guy you are with is not your husband and although you are serious as a couple you cannot be certain he will ever be your husband.
You gotta help him take care of him self and you.
Listen to this link and then pass it on to him… after my own big mistake that made me feel like I was yesterdays news and nothing good could come of my life God send me this talk and it changed my life so that I now have hope again. Your boyfriend is like me: he needs to reclaim purity and be the godly protective man that every christian woman needs:
You will not regret listening to this:
go to pureloveclub.com/seminars/index.php?id=5
and choose PUBLIC HIGHSCHOOL TALK
 
Grace and Peace,

I’d just like to say how impressed I am seeing all of you young people speak on chastity. It is so very uplifting to see your faith and conviction! God has truly blessed you!

My prayers are with each of you. 👍
 
I’m a 44 year old male, but perhaps I can say something relevant. The young women I met who were known virgins, when I was in my 20s, were highly respected!

Sounds counterintuitive, doesn’t it?

The fact is, we guys ended up respecting them enormously, giving them a lot of credit as being substantial persons in their own right. And this, tell the truth, is a pretty attractive thing, finding a young woman you can feel on equal terms with, not just a subject for fun times. Made you believe the girl would be someone strong enough to marry.
 
Just tell him your reason and stick to it. Don’t sleep with him.

You are so young - you will find that college is such an exciting and life-changing experience and you cannot say if you will feel the same way. I’m not trying to put a damper on your relationship. If you end up together and get married - fine. If not, you’ll wish you had waited!
 
Im Protestant and he is Catholic. We have talked about marriage and I know he wants to marry me (I am staying in-state for college). I tell him im saving myself for our marriage and though he is not pressuring me to have sex with him, I feel like he does not understand why I believe in chastity or how important it is to me.
If he were practicing his Catholic faith, you would not need to explain to him the necessity of being chaste. He would be insisting on it. Physical intimacy of a sexual nature outside of marriage is wrong. Sexual acts outside of marriage are gravely wrong. His desire to use you in this way should make you angry. True love waits. If he doesn’t want to, then he doesn’t love you.

Daddums 🙂
 
I was 19 when I started dating my wife who was 16 at the time. We married three years later and this year we are celebrating our 27th wedding anniversary. We were both virgins so perhaps that made it a little easier for me to wait.But I still was a guy and like any other guy had the same desires. But the truth in love comes with respect and 100% unconditional love. He can only show you his total love if he repects you and the greatest gift that you will give him on his wedding night. My wife and I love each other more and more each year and I contibute that to our exclusivity and respect for one another prior to our marriage and after…God Bless you both and my prayers are with you…teachccd 🙂
 
Hi Jackie–and thank you for posting this thread. It is wonderful to see a young woman saving herself for marriage. This is not only what you want-but most importantly what God wants. I was a virgin when I married my husband, and let me say–it was the best decision I ever made. We were tempted…my husband is roughly 10 yrs older than me, and when we met (I was 20) he had been in and out of a few sexual relationships. He had vowed to himself (and to God) to remain chaste a few years prior to meeting me. I think because of his newfound chastity, he respected my decision to remain a virgin until marriage. That being said…your boyfriend does not sound like he respects your decision, otherwise he would not pressure you.

What I will submit to you is this…if he stays with you, then he is a good candidate for marriage. I say that, because I had several guys in high school and college ‘dump’ me because of my refusal to have sex. I heard all the lines…from ‘you would if you loved me,’ to ‘what are you worried about? I would never leave you.’ Uh huh. These guys did leave me, and that was the hardest part. It was actually not too difficult to remain physically a virgin (from a girl’s standpoint)–as much as my mind wrestled with just wanting to ‘give in’ to keep a boyfriend. It did get tiring and lonely at times to lose boyfriends because they didn’t respect my decision.😦

If he is as wonderful as you think he is, he will wait…and he will stay loyal to you. I would continue to stand steadfast with your decision to remain chaste**…no need to make excuses for it. **You want to remain a virgin for marriage…period. I wish you good luck, and you’ll be in my prayers.
 
Don’t worry, you need to stay firm to your beliefs and your decisions, it’ll be worth it in the end.

I’m 21, have a wonderful boyfriend, we’ve been going out for almost 2 years now and we both agreed to wait until we were married, which will only happen once i finish my degree which isn’t for another year and a half or so. I can easily tell you that the relationship we have now is so different from what it was 3 months after we started dating, so different from what it was 1 year after, and so on… it keeps getting better and better. And i know that if we had sex tomorrow it would take a little away from our relationship, even if we are so close now and we know that we are going to get married. It just wouldn’t be the same anymore.

I truly believe that waiting is the way to really help a relationship grow, there is no bigger sign of love from a man than him accepting to wait for marriage before having sex (same goes for a woman, but i think it means more coming from a man) And the person who says that you judge a relationship from the sex is a liar (and i know a lot of people who have said that and who believe that) I can tell you, without a doubt, that my relationship with my boyfriend is stronger than any relationships my friends ever had, no matter how good the sex was in their case.

Yes sex is an expression of love, but it has to be in the right context too, and there are so many other ways he can show you that he loves you.

When i first started going out with my boyfriend i wasn’t entirely sure how he felt about sex, and if he would be ok with waiting until marriage, but i set the limit for myself anyway, telling myself i would never cross it. Because in the end i could not know what would happen between us: he could leave because he doesn’t want to wait ( in that case at least i wouldn’t have waisted my time on someone that wasn’t meant to be), or let’s say I gave in and we had sex, there’s nothing that would have stopped us from breaking up later, or if we did get married there would have been something missing on that wedding night. Or the last scenario, which fortunately was the real one, he accepted to wait and now we are so strong and happy together and are going to get married.
So you see, in staying strong and choosing to wait you lose nothing, and gain lots. And not to mention the fact that birth control is going to have to be discussed, and since you are both against abortion and the pill the situation can become very stressful and take a toll on your relationship, and your school life.

well that was a long post, im sorry. I hope it helps
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This couple have their heads on stright. Consider that after you are married what percentage of your time will be spent actually having sex. Compared to everything else that goes on in a family it is miniscule. It is all the other day to day stuff that we will participate in with each other that becomes important to staying the course. Wait till marriage and the sex thing takes care of itself. No need to check it out, it comes narturally.
 
You are absolutely right. If he really loves you he will wait untill you are married and you are right not to give in. He has a moral oblagation not to cause you to commit sin.
He is probably having a hard time waiting because he has had sex. Right now you may think he is the one but when you go to College you are going to meet a lot of people and you never know you might meet some one else and change your mind.
I am going to tell you a little story that happened with my wife. Before I met her she was going with a guy for some time before he was drafted in the Army. He was romantic and could write Poetry.He got sent to Germany and met a girl there and had sex with her. He came back and resumed the relationship with my wife. He told her that he had sex in Germany and wanted my to do the same thing. She said no and dumped him even though she really loved him. WE are married over fifty years. She is in a home today and I go there every day and spend a lot of time with her. We were both virgins when we got married.
Everyone loves her because she is a very special person.
Pray very hard in case this is not the one that some one will come along that will love and cherish you always.
All the best in College.

Mayo
 
Imagine if in the future you meet the most wonderful man ever, and he proposed to marry you. You accept, it’s a fairy tale, and he is a virgin. But you are not. How will you feel? He preserved this gift JUST for you.

-revelations
I would not want to marry a man who made me feel like “used goods” just because I was not a virgin. If a person has gone to Confession, and has remained chaste, they are forgiven of the sexual sins of their past.

I’d be proud of my husband for saving himself for me, and I would be thankful for my forgiveness. Both of us would be going into the marriage in a pure state.

We should all strive towards chastity, of course. We are also humans who fail. This does not mean we are “dirty” or “ruined.” It simply means that we need to go to confession, pick ourselves back up, and continue on our journey knowing we have been forgiven.
 
Im 18 years old, a senior in high school and I am a virgin. In my freshman year, my theology teacher gave a wonderful talk about chastity … I tell him [boyfriend] that it is something I am waiting for until marriage but I feel like he does not understand how important waiting is. … What else can I tall him to get the point across??
Jackie,

In the first place, sexuality for a man is different than that for a woman. You speak about how you two talk about everything – and you find that very attractive. That is normal intimacy for a woman – your boyfriend appears to have stronger touch based needs (which is typical in some males, not in others). The problem is that socially, these two impulses have replaced and confused the wider notion of love – which is what one is willing to do for another in spite of personal sacrifice. (eg: the difficult times)

Rather than condemn his motives (which might be appropriate – but I can’t know that) – I would rather concentrate on the final question you asked – things to talk about.

He doesn’t seem to understand – but the question is ‘why’ – and that is what you need to explore in your conversations.
There are good reasons, and bad reasons both of why this might be – and prudently, most posters are trying to help you avoid the worst reasons. Consider what they have said – and here are a few things I could add:

Sterotypically, men are seen as more prone to wanting “sex” just for the pleasure/rush of it and taking or leaving it – whereas women are seen as more likely to give in to sexual pressure if they love a man. ( Do you love me is a cruel question! )

But the stereotype hopefully is wrong in the case of your boyfriend, although he is certainly aware of it – and may be judging you based on it, mistakenly. Sometimes women give in for fear, or because they were taught it is “cool”, or even that to be equal with men they “need” to have sex to prove they can conquer too. (or perhaps the desperately need a husband – eg: low self opinion) etc. The problem is, each person is susceptible to different combinations of reasons why they might be misled or why they might be downright evil – and that isn’t how you want to see your boyfriend right now.

In this (honest) but sick loop, I can add that even church teaching gets watered down – where one is told that you marry each other, and hence sexuality is the seal of marriage. The problem is, then, how to reconcile waiting with true love – while at the same time not confusing the perfection of being a virgin (which he is not) with the fantasy of a perfect marriage.

Here are some general ideas of things which might be useful to bring up, and think about yourself –

The Catholic church forbids the private marriage of people when a public ceremony is possible (eg: all cases), so that one can’t marry as a Catholic without permission because what the church binds is honored by Jesus. eg: not only is it a sin, but it looses the blessing of God which will make the natural marriage very difficult later. ( even if it seems unfair, it’s true ).

If your boyfriend is susceptible to touch and the need of affection (which some men are, others definitely are not) gentle fiddling with his hair, or a gentle stroke on the cheek is about as good as sex – without the risk of sin. This form of communication is very important to a man who needs it – and the lack of both sexuality and touch is a very difficult thing for that kind of person.

However, certain kinds of affection for that person eg: kissing, tight chest hugs, etc, are very difficult to avoid going to their logical sexual conclusion – so should be avoided as a mercy to him. (whether he likes it or not.)

Here’s something far more important to discuss:
Within marriage you are taking an oath to protect your spouse from sexual temptation from without – and this goes both ways, to protect you and him – and, so, you need to recognize the very great burden you and he will have in marriage if you are not the touchy kind of person, and he is. What will it be like during times where you fight (there will inevitably be those times, pregnancy makes people VERY tired and grouchy sometimes).

Often, it seems, women do not understand the very intense emotional state being toyed with sexually can have on a husband.
Or perhaps they rationalize it since they don’t experience it themselves. Esp. since being close while dressing, undressing, is going to intensify his desire of being with you – being married is not necessarily easier than dating problems.

… continued …
 
Within marriage you will have the opposite kinds of problems. Saying no becomes something one ought NOT do except when forced to – because within marriage the spouses must deny their own wants in preference to their spouse’s good. Especially once children come. So, some people have easier marriages because their wants, needs, and ability to give are in sympathy with their spouse – others must struggle far harder to keep things going.

It isn’t like the case of his old girlfriend who he could just walk away from – or who walked away from him. Sometimes in-laws get involved in ways which really hurt the two of you without your consent – can you really separate yourself from your family, and he from his? – That is part of the person you need to see in the one you marry – can they deal with your worst?

There is the fantasy side, saying “yes” we can talk it all out – when perhaps talking isn’t what will be most important then because that might solve your problem, but not his. If you love him, and you know you will hurt him – that needs to be addressed.

God bless you, and I hope that some of these thoughts will be of use to you in discussing the things which can be of help to your boyfriend – whether or not you marry him eventually.
 
Quite honestly, I think that if he can’t understand why chastity is important to you, then he won’t have the respect for you that makes a strong, lasting marriage.

I have not yet married, but I am also not a virgin. I was engaged to a guy several years my senior at 17, when I was still outside the Church, and I fell for the lies. But unfortunetly the relationship turned abusive and I broke the engagement. I realize now that him wanting to have sex with me, even going to the point of gentle coersion by getting me to do semi-sexual things when I’ve never even kissed a guy before, was the first sign that he didn’t want a marriage built on love, mutual respect for each other and faithfulness.

I wish I had learned that lesson with my virginity intact. But I haven’t had sex since then and I won’t again until I’m married. Thankfully our Savior will forgive the repentant, though I must admit it took me two years to forgive myself for it. I didn’t even date for two years afterwards. Now I realize that I owe it to myself and to my Faith to find a man who respects and supports my convictions. 🙂
 
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