Cheating Husband Part II

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That is so sad:( I will pray for you, your daughter, and your husband. You are an incredibly strong woman for having to deal with this.

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!
St. Bernadette, pray for us.
St. Monica, pray for us.
 
sweetie… this pain will take a while to go away… dont ignore it and cry as much as you can… only when you cry and get it out of your system will you be able to heal…

start going to classes where you can connect with people who are in the same situation… it will help a lot believe me…!!!
it was only through these friends of mine that i was able to get through the pain and get through the process…

stay strong and we will pray for you…
 
My husband txt me and said that he is moving in with her and for me to take good care of our little girl. Not sure what to say but the pain is absolutly killing me. please pray for my sins, his sins and hers. Pray that I will be able to handle this pain. Lord please take it from me…😦
It probably does not help, but I am so angry at him for what he’s done to you! Stringing you along for all this time until he could sort it out with her. What a nasty, spiteful, selfish and cowardly thing for him to do! Why couldn’t he be a man and be honest from the beginning? I’m sorry but this is disgusting behaviour! Its one thing to have an affair, and it’s another thing to pretend he wants his marriage and hurt you even more in the process, all the while he’s working out his future with her! I really HATE that people lie like that!
Remember Love, you are allowed to feel anger about this. He’s behaved terribly. And to send that message in a text!
I will pray for you, this must be heartbreaking.
 
Dearest Love31,

My husband hasn’t done this, but my first and previous partner did, for over 10 years. I came home to find a girl leaving the home that we shared, he kissed women in front of me, had numerous affairs, and was such a womaniser. But for me, i was insecure, overweight, had been molested, thought that no other man would ever want to be with me and i put up with it. I know we weren’t married, so it really doesn’t compare, but i do know the hurt and betrayal that you feel as a woman. My father had an affair which helped break up my parent’s marriage and i have never forgotten the day that we were at the Race Course (we had race horses) and mum asked my aunty’s husband (he molested me, i have forgiven, but will not call him my uncle.) where my father was and he said ‘with his girlfriend’. It was my 13th birthday and my non drinking mother went home and drank a bottle of whiskey and fell down 16 concrete steps. I never forget confronting my father when he came home with “Do you love and want Charmaine or Mummy?” He never left mum for Charmaine, but he moved out, moved interstate and when i went to visit him 3 years later i found a photo of him and her taken at Christmas. He didn’t ask me to go visit him that Christmas… he asked her. Ouch did that hurt! He hurt my mum more by doing that than by having the affair she said one time. Don’t know if that is how she really felt. She felt so sorry for me as i have always adored my father and put him on a pedestal. He is with God now, i have forgiven him, but that destroyed my mum and our family. It nearly destroyed me to see my beautiful, loyal, devoted mother go through so much. We lost our home, the business and literally everything except clothing, bit of furniture and a few possessions which we did not sell.
I have just joined CAF, and have not read all of the posts in this one, but as a child of a man who had an affair on his wife, the hurt ran deep, and seeing my mother hurt in that way, just tore me apart. We used to go into empty churches and just kneel and pray.

I don’t have advice, i just have companionship to offer. I have felt the hurt on both ends, as a woman and as a child. I feel for you and will pray for the strength that you need. God does not want you in an ‘empty’ marriage dear heart. I have just read what has happened and am so truly sorry. Be blessed that you have a daughter, i was my mother’s rock through it all. I am still very protective of her today. You **will **survive this.

Sending you love, hugs and kisses, you are not alone sweetie 😉

P.S. ** JESUS loves you. **And as for your sins? Ha! :eek: I think there are 2 other people who should be more worried about their sins! :mad: I will pray for your hearts to heal and for you both to be able to smile and sing again one day.

xxxx:heart:
 
My husband txt me and said that he is moving in with her and for me to take good care of our little girl. Not sure what to say but the pain is absolutly killing me. please pray for my sins, his sins and hers. Pray that I will be able to handle this pain. Lord please take it from me…😦
Did he not have the back bone to tell you this face to face. He does not deserve you and you deserve 101% better than him. I am telling you this man is going to come back to crawling on his hands and knees. Because things out there are not like home.

You have a chance now to start you life over again. Everything happens for a reason. He had no intentions of going for counselling not because he had other motives but because he knows that he has problems and issues. And he does not want to deal with that so the next best thing to do is run away from the situation to another that he does not know what the outcome will be.

I know that you are hurting here is something to think about you have been on a roller coaster ride for a while now you thought that things would change but it just did not work out that way. Do not blame yourself for what happened. You are stronger than that and you have shown it and you will get through this I have faith, hope and belief. If I can do it then you can. Even though things have been really bad for you, you still had faith in God and believed in him. He will get you through this. Just hang in there you have alot of support from so many people. And so many people out there are praying for you and your daughter. She needs you now and she needs for you to be strong for both of you.

Take care and keep the faith and just hang in there.
 
I’m so sorry to hear this, Love. What puzzles me a bit, is why he came back for a short stint…said he’d go to counseling…and then now is text messaging you that he is moving in with her?
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I’m so sorry to hear this, Love. What puzzles me a bit, is why he came back for a short stint…said he’d go to counseling…and then now is text messaging you that he is moving in with her?
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You think thats confusing I got home and found out that he went to her house to get things he had over there and apprently they had it out and she was tossing his stuff out the door as he was taking his other things. He didn’t tell me this but the guy that took him over there told me. He said they were not saying very nice things to each other. OK…so why did he say he was moving in with her…I don’t know…I think he wants to be alone and is trying to upset me so that I will leave him alone and he has made her mad so she will leave him alone. I do think he needs to be alone. He did call my daughter last night to explain to her that Dad was going to be staying at the shop but that she could call him anytime and if she wanted to see him he would be there. He did say that he needs time and I said so do I. Not sure what is going to happen how but we did agree that neither one of us was ready for him to come home. I hope he really is alone so that he can figure out what kind of person he really wants to be. I already know that the person he is now is not the person I want. Me and my daughter are going to my sisters for the weekend just to hang out. I’m looking forward to it…my husband left money for us to go. This man is very confussing…
 
You think thats confusing I got home and found out that he went to her house to get things he had over there and apprently they had it out and she was tossing his stuff out the door as he was taking his other things. He didn’t tell me this but the guy that took him over there told me. He said they were not saying very nice things to each other. OK…so why did he say he was moving in with her…I don’t know…I think he wants to be alone and is trying to upset me so that I will leave him alone and he has made her mad so she will leave him alone. I do think he needs to be alone. He did call my daughter last night to explain to her that Dad was going to be staying at the shop but that she could call him anytime and if she wanted to see him he would be there. He did say that he needs time and I said so do I. Not sure what is going to happen how but we did agree that neither one of us was ready for him to come home. I hope he really is alone so that he can figure out what kind of person he really wants to be. I already know that the person he is now is not the person I want. Me and my daughter are going to my sisters for the weekend just to hang out. I’m looking forward to it…my husband left money for us to go. This man is very confussing…
Wow. I think that he is very lost, sadly. You can forgive someone, Love…but you don’t have to live with him. You can have compassion for someone, from a distance. I know he’s your husband, and it seems like you have been wanting this to work out. I just think that it’s hard to make a marriage work, when someone is totally unwilling. I suppose it all depends on what you’re willing to do. After a while, is he seeing you as kind and compassionate through this waiting period, or is he viewing you as a doormat? Someone who he can yo yo around at a moment’s notice? And, what does this teach your daughter? I think it’s important for kids to learn how to work through problems. But, your husband is unwilling to work through problems.

If you were my sister or daughter…I’d tell you to move on. I can’t say what’s best not knowing you–but I know what I would tell them, (well my daughter is only 10, but you know what I mean)

I’m praying that God pulls you through this…He will. It just hurts now. I’m sorry.
 
I spent some of the weekend with my sister and some with my sister-in-law. I’ll have to say I really had a good time. My phone was broken so no one called me and we just laughed harder than I have in a long time. We ate what ever we wanted. Friday we went to the movies and Saturday we watched the fight. I had a good weekend!! My husband was panicing, he even called my mom wanting to see if she knew where I was and when I was coming home…She said that he was so polite and seemed so concerned. He told her that he really needed to talk to me and if she could please get a message to me to call him. Well I called him and all he wanted to know was if the dog had enough food to last all weekend…What is that all about?..Well last night I get a txt from him and he says that he’s sorry for sayng that he no longer wanted me he said that was a lie and that he’s hurting about alot of things and He takes it out on me. He said please give him just a little more time. He said he’s trying to get back to the girls who he loves so much …me and my daughter. I still love him but I’m not sure I want to be with him. He has hurt me so much. I’m not sure he is willing to do what I need to get passed all of this. To me…he seems to be too concerned with what he is feeling and not concerned enough about what he has done to this family. Does this sound like anger…Yes I’m angry…
 
Hi Love–good for you that you had a great weekend. what did u think about the fight? i was disappointed. lol

About your husband…hmmmm…If it were me, it’d be time to let go. No more time. No more chances. It seems like he jerks you around, whenever things (I’m surmising) are not going well with the other woman. Then, when she comes around, he dumps you all over again. He needs help. I think one can forgive without allowing someone to keep repeatedly hurting him/her.

It’s of course up to you–but he really doesn’t care what’s best for his family. He simply doesn’t. If he did, he would stop these games. I truly think that forgiveness doesn’t require being a doormat. To be a good Christian, doesn’t mean we keep allowing ourselves to be trampled on.

Anyways…just my $.02. I think you can forgive…and still let him go…and an annulment I think, would be granted in this case. But, again…just my 2 cents! I will pray for you. I just don’t want to see you get ‘sucked in’ again to his lies…and then, in another week when he doesn’t want to do the real work it takes to be a good husband and father–he’s out the door again.:mad:

You’re in my thoughts and prayers, Love.
 
I spent some of the weekend with my sister and some with my sister-in-law. I’ll have to say I really had a good time. My phone was broken so no one called me and we just laughed harder than I have in a long time. We ate what ever we wanted. Friday we went to the movies and Saturday we watched the fight. I had a good weekend!! My husband was panicing, he even called my mom wanting to see if she knew where I was and when I was coming home…She said that he was so polite and seemed so concerned. He told her that he really needed to talk to me and if she could please get a message to me to call him. Well I called him and all he wanted to know was if the dog had enough food to last all weekend…What is that all about?..Well last night I get a txt from him and he says that he’s sorry for sayng that he no longer wanted me he said that was a lie and that he’s hurting about alot of things and He takes it out on me. He said please give him just a little more time. He said he’s trying to get back to the girls who he loves so much …me and my daughter. I still love him but I’m not sure I want to be with him. He has hurt me so much. I’m not sure he is willing to do what I need to get passed all of this. To me…he seems to be too concerned with what he is feeling and not concerned enough about what he has done to this family. Does this sound like anger…Yes I’m angry…
I also think he likes you sitting around and waiting. You off having a good time, bugs him. It sounds like he wants to be off having a ‘good time,’ but it panics him when you are?

I think who you love, is a man you knew. He is also very much ‘this’ man, too. Anyways…my prayers are with you. I’m angry too!
 
just remember one thing Love31 - men love to know that there is a woman waiting for them at home…
that is what he is doing to you… makes you wait at home while he is out having his fun… this is very true…
i do believe that now is the time to take back your self respect… and no matter what he says, he does not deserve you anymore. just remember that…
 
Love 31

i’ve been reading the sad episodes of your marriage for weeks. i have something to add that maybe can present this in a way that will help. everyone has been so enormously generous with prayers and suggestions.

all along, you have written over and over again: i am so confused.
likewise you’ve written MANY times, “i don’t know what’s gonna happen now.”
and you’ve written that trust has been broken, you are hurt, angry and scared.

(i couldn’t get a handle on this one fact-- maybe i missed it: what drugs is your husband using?)

here’s what i’m thinking, gleaned from 23 year sober years in AA where this story of yours plays out monthly-- heck, daily. sometimes to good end (long term) sometimes to disaster-- usually the quick fixes.

your husband seems to be an addict. he may use drugs to numb his guilt, he may use drugs to ruin his moral inhibitions. either way, he seems to have done enough drugs to have damaged his free will; i.e., addiction.

he likewise has been strangled in the affair. sin-- another loss of freedom. (she says she’s done with him. if she really is, she’s a smart girl. not necessarilly a good one, but a smart one.)

at this point, all trust is lost and addiction rages. he’s spewing every oath and insult known to womankind. you are a wreck.

here’s what i strongly believe:
  1. live with him or no, annulment or no, you will be resoponsible to pray for him until his dying breath and beyond. God put him in your life. he needs prayers. it’s your job. no question. this is called real love-- the kind where it costs you everything and you may get nothing tangible in return. the kind of love God loves us with.
  2. everytime you have marital relations with him, you put yourself and daughter at risk. stop it. for a good long time, stop it. you wouldn’t let him play with guns in the house. same thing, only slower.
  3. he is gone. you are wrecked. what to do now? no matter what glorious light of conversion you see around him, you must expect at least 2 years of “show me” from him. **if he’s not willing to work for at least 2 years to regain your trust in sobriety and fidelity, then he’s not willing. **
  4. in the meanwhile, your life, Love 31, looks exactly the same. you work. you pray. you love your daughter. repeat. whether he is drugged, adulterious, clean, delerious, lucid or faithful. your life proceeds the same way. why? because your life depends on God’s faithful love, not his or mine or anybody else’s unfaithful love.
  5. if he says he’s working for your trust, occasionally hire a private detective. occasionally bring him to the local police station for a urine drop. when he argues, “don’t you trust me?” your answer is tghe true one. “NO. but I could. prove it.”
  6. he’s a drug user. your daughter shouldn’t be left alone with him. end of story.
tough love? no. tragic, terrible, painful, brave, crying, God-trusting love. how do i know? we have a son…

finally, counseling would be good for you. alone. this whole thing has you questioning every single instinct you own. questioning your goodness, your worthiness, your ability to cope and carry on.

i am so grateful for your sister and friends who love you enough to laugh with you. Love31, please avoid every single opportunity to “test” your attractiveness to other men. it is fire and you’ve already been burned bad.

test, instead, your attractiveness with God. there you will find a beautiful child loved more than words can ever express. the look on God’s face when HE looks at you!! pure love.

many prayers continue.
 
Wow, great post, Monicatholic! You are so right in what you have said. It is hard but worth it in the end. At least, that is what I am hoping, having been in similar shoes to Love 31. Things hurt how, but will get easier over time. 🙂 🙂
 
I have to ask you this “What do you want”. Do you really want your husband back after all that he has put you through. Also the fact that he has lived with another women even though you guys are still married. Do you think that you guys can get through this and make this marriage work.

And even if you guys do decide to work things out after all this it is going to be a struggle. Your marriage will never be the same again. The trust issue has to be rebuilt basically your whole marriage will have extreme makeover.

But ask yourself this question do you really want him back and what is the reason that you want him back. Is it because you really love him and you feel this marriage can work. Or are you afraid of been alone and having to bring up your daughter alone.

What you are going through now I have already been down that road. It is not easy but as time goes by things do get better. It breaks my heart to see you in so much pain. I sometimes feel as if I am reliving my past. What you are feeling now is normal you are not sure if you are coming or going or what you should do.

But there is alot for you to think about and decide as I said before why would you want him back after all that has happened. Is it because you love him and you know that this marriage can work or is it because you do not want to be alone. This has not been a easy thing for you and you have really been on a roller coaster ride.

Hang in there and pray for Gods guidance. He has a plan for you. Take it one day at a time. STOP DRIVING PAST HER HOUSE TO SEE IF HE IS THERE. The only person you are hurting is yourself.

And STOP putting your life on hold because of him. Move on start taking care of you and your daughter don’t worry about him. Don’t wait for him if he comes back then he comes back. Start taking care of you and start worrying about yourself. Do the things that you could not do before. Look what a nice weekend you had with your sister. Do that more often. You are the most important person in your life and when you happy your daughter will be happy.

God bless and take it easy.
 
Love 31
  1. live with him or no, annulment or no, you will be resoponsible to pray for him until his dying breath and beyond. God put him in your life. he needs prayers. it’s your job. no question. this is called real love-- the kind where it costs you everything and you may get nothing tangible in return. the kind of love God loves us with.
I know I already knew this but to read it this morning shocked me…The fact that even if I don’t stay with him I will have to continue my prayers for him…I’m still not sure which way to go but Thank you for the reminder that I still need to love him with God’s Love
 
But ask yourself this question do you really want him back and what is the reason that you want him back. Is it because you really love him and you feel this marriage can work. Or are you afraid of been alone and having to bring up your daughter alone.
Great question…its the question I have been trying to find the answer to…more these days than any other. I have been asking myself…Why would I want this man back?..Could I possibly still love a man that has put me and continues to put me thru such pain. Am I trying to get things done in my time and not in Gods time. Do I still need to be patient. Or do I take the painless road and let him go…Can I have a successfull marriage with a man that has destroyed my trust…will I ever move on from these images in my mind…Not sure. It does seem to be getting easier but is it because I’m so angry now that I really don’t care what he does anymore…So many questions
 
Hello…

I will try to relay my experience…b/c maybe in a combination of support/answers…you’re answer will be placed on your heart.

First let me say, that marriage should NEVER be this difficult. The reason that we “think” that a hard marriage is some sort of cross is b/c when we married we consulted for the most part “our” will and not God’s will, but figured that’s okay b/c for the most part we were “good” Catholics/christians and we pray and “feel” close to God.

That’s what I always thought and that was the error in my thinking. My first marriage was filled with abuse (mostly verbal but towards the end it would start to get physical) and cheating. However since he is a private detective…he always had a very clever excuse as to why he had drink receipts with 2 people, dinner reservations etc…it was always about “clients” and I was shallow if I thought otherwise about him.

I stayed with him for 1 year after our son was born, with the deadline promise to myself if he didn’t straighten out after 1 year then I would be gone. He stayed in a seperate bedroom in the house but still I would “pray” and hope…and ask God for some sign…the occassional getting pushed or having my hair grabbed and banged against a closest door, or trying to trip me when I was holding my son wasn’t enough…a breaking point is when he held scissors at my through and swore at me and asked me to give him one good reason to not do that…I shut my eyes and prayed I figured if I uttered one “peep” I could be dead. By “GOD’S” grace I was saved…I used to think my ex got control or it was ex that stopped short of throwing me down the steps…but it wasn’t it was GOD, so anyway after all of that I still wasn’t sure…b/c after all God hates divorce right? I was brought up you don’t dissolve a Catholic marriage right? You fight for it…WRONG!!! It took undeniable proof of an affair to start getting my ducks in a row and leave him.

Ask yourself this, when you married was it God’s will? In other words did you ask if this isn’t he will make something happen that it will fall apart…that you will see it is wrong, i.e. not the same desire to attend mass, small putdowns, (the start of verbal abuse) blaming you for how he feels, always wondering what he is thinking and/or what does this action that he does mean or not mean. i.e if he does this he MUST love me…again WRONG!! God never intended for me to marry my ex that was my will but I figured since I “prayed” he must think it’s okay even though I questioned things and was unhappy for much of the marriage (6 1/2 years)

Fast forward to today and I am over the moon HAPPILY remarried to my DH. We don’t have the kind of strife that is prevelent in many unequally yoked marriages. We are on the same page in regards to faith and morals I NEVER have to question if he will cheat on me, nor does he of me (his ex wife cheated on him too) but we always believed that was inexcusable in a marriage. I realize if you actually consult for God’s will and surrender your will COMPLETELY not just partially to Jesus Christ, he truly is the truth, the light and the way. I was able to obtain an anullment (so was my DH) and I never doubted how he felt…this marriage and the relationship in the beginning was always filled with peace…that is how you know you are on God’s path, you are no longer filled with questions and looking for signs…you are completely filled with peace. We kidded with each other that neither of us ever had a relationship where you feel that and completely comfortable yet infused with an electricy (passion)

We waited until marriage to consumate the marriage and that was one of my strong non negotiables the 2nd time around…oh I stumbled and fell quite a few times before I “got” that part…I used to think that “God understands” and after all this or that person is Catholic! Doesn’t mean zip. Follow God’s commandments all of them not just pick and choose to make your requirments…(I figured if I met another guy that just wanted to have sex before marriage that wasn’t the guy for me) and sit back and lay everything at the cross and wait for his peace and he will guide you. It may not be the answer you wanted or hoped for, but I can promise you this, it will exceeds all of your dreams. Oh, we still have struggles (I miscarried recently) but the difference is we’re in them together…not ever against each other, we communicate well, but that also takes effort and is never taken for granted, anything beautiful takes nurturing to let it grow and blossom, but it shouldn’t take “work” in the sense that you are constantly swimming upstream against each other.

I’m still awed and humbled by the great mercy he has shown me, especially as I have not always lived as a Catholic should and it really is of paramount importance

I wish you peace…the peace that only he can give you.

Michele
 
Love#1,
you have written again today: i am not sure which way to go.

Love31, you only have to answer to God, yourself and your daughter for your decission. not to anyone else.

but here are your choices, visible to everyone except you:
  1. stay with a man who is destructive, unfaithful and addicted. on a daily basis, react to his destruction or try not to react, whichever, with a mind to somehow holding together a marriage of one partner, one (probable) impediment. continue to try to explain to God why being an enabler is OK. continue to try and explain to your daughter why filling her daily life wiyh chaos is OK. continue to try to explain to yourself why you think remaining with him is helpful/ useful/ holy/ pleasing to God.
  2. begin a new, single woman existence, praying for the man, working at creating peacful home for your daughter, freeing yourself from the prison of reaction and codependancy. then you will need to explain to God why you need His help and grace. then you will need to explain to your daughter why love means continuing to pray-- even if there is NO BENEFIT to you. then you will have to explain to yourself why sometimes grown-up people are faced with hard choices that hurt bad.
when you write: i am not sure which way to go, i think you really mean “i am not sure how to get my marriage back. how to make things go the way i want them to go.”

you have no power to get your marriage back because you have no power over him. you cannot make things go the way you want them to go because you cannot make him do anything. the drugs and the sin have lots more power than you.

but God has more power than all.

leaving today does not mean forever. it might. but we do not know. it means you are making a new life today. if someday after much sobriety and fidelity he wants to join you in your life, then everyone prayerfully considers.

when we pray the “Hail Mary” we ask Our Mother to pray for us with her powerful prayers in the only two important moments of our lives-- the moment of our death and NOW.

Love31, NOW is the only moment you can control. NOW is the ONLY moment God has His grace for you. NOW is the only moment we need prayers. THIS DAY. NOW.

you can spin and agitate all your life over what might happen next, but NOW is the only hope of holiness.

Love31, like your husband and his addictions, you may have to hit some profound bottom before you are ready to admit defeat. but if you drag on with not hope, but WISHES, then your girl will suffer worse than now. so will you.
 
this is a ‘whoops’!

I meant to say “throat” in regards to the scissors comment…I tried to edit but it was too late!

Also, the ascertaining God’s will is an ongoing process…I find that I get tripped up even now!

If you happended to see my other post about the struggle regarding the miscarriage…well suffice to say I’m embarrassed to say I’m Catholic sometimes! Something as “duh” as whether or not God would approve of sterilization simply b/c we “thought” we knew God’s plans for us, plus we are older etc…anyway a really good rule of thumb is if it goes against a commandment or a Catholic teaching it really isn’t God’s will. I am hoping that I am over being stupid in the basics of the faith, but I’m sure I will be tested some more.

I do give myself over to his will and do have complete peace with it…it’s just I thought “his” will meant that I should be helping out in a mission somewhere and not having more kids at 42…but it I do know as I always did, it’s not about me…it’s about God and his greater glory in utilizing me/us for his plans…it’s just really strange that I did get tripped up like that thinking I thought I “was” on the path. I say that, b/c it’s very easy to get caught up in what we want, or we “think” God wants b/c it makes sense to us…but in the clearer picture his will will always be surrounded by peace. I should have figured that out the first time with the miscarriage (moreso thinking sterilization is the answer) issue, as I wasn’t filled with that same peace that I am now…knowing what really is God’s will. Thank God I really did finally give it over to God and wait for his answer and in that, I found this site.

I do believe one of the greatest gifts we can give each other is to help each other to our true home in heaven and I do maintain although it may not be what we thought, it’s far better than our plans.

Take care and God bless.
Michele
 
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