josh
Until a ‘married’ homosexual couple, or someone advocating for abortion (Catholics for Choice), or someone thinks it’s just symbolic etc claim they are being called to receive, then I think we are all to say they should just stay in their pews.
Who are you to judge who’s in line to receive Holy Communion ?
We don’t know the state of souls who are in line and my question of “what is this a problem,” had to do with the poster statement about few remain in the pews today. To jump to conclusions on what state the souls in line are in.
It’s only a upsetting I believe if they were there for the wrong reasons, but ‘shame’ is the very last thing that comes to mind with the faithful in Eucharistic Adoration and long confession lines.
Jesus never said, " I’ve come to make sinners feel shame."
Guilt/Forgiveness isn’t an issue, it’s the fact that people are sinning and have no guilt, nor seek forgiveness.
How do you know people don’t seek forgiveness from God ?
Satan and His lies should never be included in such ‘inclusiveness’, and I believe we all must be on guard here, even a dash of salt can turn the water foul.
So now you’re jumping to the conclusion that people receiving Holy Communion are including Satan’s lies ?
Forgive the sinner, not the sin, be inclusive of the sinner, not the sin.
Where did I say otherwise ?
I don’t know much about pre-Vatican II other than it was all in latin and personally I’m glad it’s in English, however, I know no different.
Pre-Vatican II Catholics pretty much were on auto-pilot when it came to obeying the priests and nuns.
They never question what they were told, but conformed to what the were told, and often, especially from the nuns, it was wrong or not properly explained.
Yes, reading the Bible was not something Catholics did outside of religious and a few lay people.
Getting in and out of Mass with the least amount of time was preferred.
Ever notice how Catholics still sit to the rear of the Church ? This goes way back before Vatican II and had to do with a couple of things. One, guilt. People didn’t want to be seen not going up for Holy Communion. Also, it was the fastest way to exit the church after Mass was over.
We were more of a people of obligation rather than a people worshiping Jesus.
I left the Catholic Church and didn’t return until Jesus came into my life revealing himself as who really is. Ironically, it was a TV Evangelists that help be open my eyes.
Jesus is the reason why we’re Catholic, not the attractiveness of the doctrines or rites.
St Augustine once wrote that there are those who finding themselves Catholic, remain so, for they find the doctrines and rituals attractive. However, they’ve yet to become Christians.
Then there are others, not having been part of the Catholic faith, received faith in Jesus Christ and having received faith, responded to it by becoming Catholic.
In essence he said, these are the pillars of the Catholic Church. The people with a love for Jesus Christ over the doctrines and rites of the religion.
For me, St Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis are the examples of what St Augustine was talking about.
Jim