Chicago's Cardinal George Refuses Communion to Rainbow Sash Leader During Outreach Mass to Gays

[Mimi]

The mavericks do not listen to these words, or they are conveniently interpreted via their own subjectiveness. Those who reject authority and point to the dissidents as having validity, who soften teaching until it can no longer be recognized, who think they are right and the Church is wrong are the most insidious threat of all. They harm the Church with their continual sniping and stay, not because they believe in objective truth, but because they wish to bring Her truth down.

[BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]

I agree.

Also, it really bothers me that those who shout “bigot” at worshipers entering the Church or Our Lady of Mt Carmel in Chicago are not considered to be committing a hate crime. They only want ‘tolerance’ for themselves, not true tolerance.

Peace,
Mimi

 

[Mimi]

Perhaps some of you have seen this video. I post it here since it seems that atheist Penn Jillette (of the Penn & Teller duo) understands Catholic teaching better than some who insist they are observant Catholics. Here he is on the Piers Morgan show.

youtube.com/watch?v=SsqzCDaS5uI

There’s not supposed to be modernizing, it’s supposed to be the word of God. . . I really believe, that if people believe, I don’t know how they can have opinions on the Catholic Church. To call yourself a Catholic, don’t you follow everything?

The whole clip is only 3 min. 39 seconds long.

We must continue to pray and fast for our Pope, bishops and cardinals!
There is more scandal being revealed in Vatican city while this occurs in the U.S.

Mimi

 

[Teelynn]

Perhaps some of you have seen this video. I post it here since it seems that atheist Penn Jillette (of the Penn & Teller duo) understands Catholic teaching better than some who insist they are observant Catholics. Here he is on the Piers Morgan show.

youtube.com/watch?v=SsqzCDaS5uI

The whole clip is only 3 min. 39 seconds long.

We must continue to pray and fast for our Pope, bishops and cardinals!
There is more scandal being revealed in Vatican city while this occurs in the U.S.

Mimi

From what I understand, there is more than one scandal going on in the Vatican at the moment. One they have supposedly put to rest…key word here? SUPPOSEDLY.

 

[Demetra2]

Perhaps some of you have seen this video. I post it here since it seems that atheist Penn Jillette (of the Penn & Teller duo) understands Catholic teaching better than some who insist they are observant Catholics. Here he is on the Piers Morgan show.

youtube.com/watch?v=SsqzCDaS5uI

The whole clip is only 3 min. 39 seconds long.

We must continue to pray and fast for our Pope, bishops and cardinals!
There is more scandal being revealed in Vatican city while this occurs in the U.S.

Mimi

Thanks for posting this clip. I found it amazing that Penn(atheist) had such a good grasp on Catholic beliefs. Much better than CINO Piers Morgan. Perhaps he is ripe for conversion!

 

[kelvinf]

Perhaps some of you have seen this video. I post it here since it seems that atheist Penn Jillette (of the Penn & Teller duo) understands Catholic teaching better than some who insist they are observant Catholics. Here he is on the Piers Morgan show.

youtube.com/watch?v=SsqzCDaS5uI

The whole clip is only 3 min. 39 seconds long.

We must continue to pray and fast for our Pope, bishops and cardinals!
There is more scandal being revealed in Vatican city while this occurs in the U.S.

Mimi

I am certain this video can be helpful in other discussions. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Midwest88]

Such as using the f-word… Please go over to some of the traditional Catholic blogs and please explain to me why that doesn’t offend you. Also, Voris’ language is quite offensive.

(Of course, they seem to be offended by everyone not them.)

Why don’t you link them? You’re the one who brought it up, so at least deliver the goods.

bold: considering I was asking a question in order to get some news, I don’t think I need to explain feelings that were never there in the first place.

 

[Cath4life]

I also see no value in “special” masses for “special” groups and their “special” sins. We have all kinds of sexual sins and for example we don’t have special masses for adulterers and fornicators and porn addicts. We have confession and we have the holy Mass for all. What we do need desparately is adult catechisis so that all may learn what sins are and the need for frequent confession. I wonder if that special gay mass was preceded by an hour of confession?

You’re right, we would need special masses for all mortal sins Perhaps add a Holy Hour in that community

 

[livingwordunity]

Cardinal George showed his love for his flock and the Catholic Church in the face of anger, hatred, defiance, arrogance and ignorance.The rainbow sash leader demonstrated his defiance for church teaching so he was not in a state of grace in which to receive the holy Eucharist and the Cardinal did not give him access to further sin by receving in an unworthy state.

In essence this heterodox group is demanding that the Catholic Church change its dogma to accept gay sex as normal and moral. This group is demanding that the Church change its position to accomodate their sin. That can never and will never happen. But they will continue to approach the Church as if it was a political party which could change its platform with enough political pressure. They will whine and shout and childishly complain that the Catholic Church is unfair. In reality it is only in the teaching of the Catholic Church that gays will ever find real truth and love and peace and good health. The Rainbow sash group claims to want the Eucharist but they do not want to pay the price of accepting God’s law in order to be worthy of the Eucharist. Jesus asked us to pick up our cross and to follow Him. All of us are required to do this. He also forgave our sins but demanded that we go and sin no more. The Rainbow Sash group said no thanks.

I also see no value in “special” masses for “special” groups and their “special” sins. We have all kinds of sexual sins and for example we don’t have special masses for adulterers and fornicators and porn addicts. We have confession and we have the holy Mass for all. What we do need desparately is adult catechisis so that all may learn what sins are and the need for frequent confession. I wonder if that special gay mass was preceded by an hour of confession?

These pro gay marriage groups will not stop at legal civil marriage .In fact our struggle is just beginning because they will not be satisfied by the recent ruling. They will not stop until they can crack the Catholic Church and will insist on sacramental Catholic marriages for gay couples. Of course this can never happen but it makes me wonder what trouble lies ahead for the Catholic church. Fasten your seat belts because it is going to be a bumpy ride. Thank goodness we have the Holy Spirit on our side!

Excellent posts!