"Children are a nuisance!"

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Karin:
Not everyone that does not have kids due to the fact that they cant, it is because they do not WANT ANY! Hard to believe that there are folks that simpy put do not want kids of their own! :confused:
The people that do not want any kids are not jealous of people like me or others that have them…they view them as a hinderance to their lifestyle.:confused:
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But it’s always possible that there are people who wanted to have children but couldn’t. Or maybe a wife wanted children, but her husband didn’t… Those situations could also lead to bitterness and anger toward children.
 
I feel so sad for that couple in the restaurant.

They will never know the joy of children and the contentment a loving family brings. They will never look in wonder at the beautiful toes of a newborn, the look of gratitude they give as they get their diaper changed or the thrill of baby’s firsts (words, steps, etc.).
 
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ElizabethAnne:
But it’s always possible that there are people who wanted to have children but couldn’t. Or maybe a wife wanted children, but her husband didn’t… Those situations could also lead to bitterness and anger toward children.
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Hmmm…yes, in the interests of loving the sinner, but at the same time, just b/c they have a story behind their issues doesn’t mean they need to make it my issue as well. Think how a new mother worries about her kids as it is, and how unsure of themselves new moms are…like they need those folks dumping their issues all over them? I refuse to excuse nasty behavior b/c of psychological issues…yes, I feel sorry for their situation, but that doens’t give them the right to dump their misery all over others, kwim? (sorry…blood boiling here too)
 
I too know how hard it is to keep children quiet. When my children were younger I would worry about how they will behave in mass. Sometimes they would cry and my husband would have to leave because we did not want to disturb other people. As they matured it became much easier. Now when I see new mothers trying to comfort their children in mass I can sympathize with them and I too get annoyed when other people make comments or roll their eyes at these precious gifts. We don’t have a crying room in our church so it is difficult to keep the children quiet.
 
I used to not really care for kids. Oh, I’d never make a nasty comment to parents, like those boors in the restaraunt. But kids never appealed to me and I never wanted to hang around them and I certainly never wanted to have any of my own. That’s because I’ve spent most of my life being completely self-absorbed.

But somethings happened recently. Whenever I’m around kids, my nieces and nephews, friends, members of my parish, I think how cool it would be to have children. To have a little human being who thinks you’re the greatest person on earth. 😃 To be able to share that love that only a child and parent can share. Wow.

However, I’ve never changed a diaper in my life and I don’t intend to. It would probably be best if I could have a child who was around age 8. By that time, the diaper changing and teething is done and there will be only occasional vomit. OK, so I’m still a little bit self-absorbed. But kids are cool. 👍
 
Of course children are a nuisance, of course they bother most people, incluing me.

But what I reckon is, get used to it! That’s just the way children are and chances are anyone complaining about it was a noisy child themselves once. It’s no more productive to complain about a noisy child than it is to complain about the rain or the heat or how hilly the ground is. As my dad would say, “suffer quietly!”
 
Out here in California, we do have a lot of self-aborbed, child-less, well-off couples. And they do seem awfully proud of that fact!!! I feel sooo sorry for them - children to me are a joy, a blessing, an affirmation of the beauty of the life that God has given us.

I never thought that I would ever be a mom, much less any good at it. But from the minute I was pregnant with my first child over 16 years ago, children are the best gift that I’ve ever recieved! There really is something about becoming a parent that opens your heart up to no end! And even though I cannot have anymore, my heart melts anytime I see kids at any age!

Kudos to you and your husband, TarAshley! 👍
 
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SMHW:
It’s a shame, isn’t it?

Yes, children do have an annoying habit of not allowing us the right of being self obsorbed. How dare they exist!:rolleyes:

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Oooooh…this is my brother and his wife—SELF ABSORBED!! They’ve been married 13 years and are childless by choice. Talk about selfish. All they do is party, buy stuff and more stuff, my brother plays video games for hours and hours. Every time I talk to him, he’s complaining to me about how “stressed” out he is, how his back hurts, or he has a headache. They know every TV program out there and typically will watch 2 at a time, while recording a 3rd show. They have absolutely no interest in anyone else. I wish they would have a couple of kids. Then, all of their attention that is now wasted on themselves would be directed toward something more noble. sigh Sorry for that rant—just talked to bro yesterday, and apparently he’s so stressed out that he has trouble sleeping:rolleyes: I’m thinking he’s feeling guilty???
 
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Vanny:
Well, what haopens when these two become a “nuisance” in their old age? Then it will be someone ELSE’s children that pay their Social Security pension, wheel their wheel chairs and wipe their bottoms in the nursing home,ect.
Gee, a lot of these people never think of that.

Someday taht BMW will be in the junkyard but a child is…
forever eternally.
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Good post, Vanny!👍
 
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Tonks40:
I never thought that I would ever be a mom, much less any good at it. But from the minute I was pregnant with my first child over 16 years ago, children are the best gift that I’ve ever recieved! There really is something about becoming a parent that opens your heart up to no end! And even though I cannot have anymore, my heart melts anytime I see kids at any age!
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YES! Same here! My boy is 19. :love:
 
Thanks, Giannawannabe!!
I always liked children but I never had the opportunity to have them until later in life, when I married.
I can’t now imagine my life without my sons- they have taught me so much!! I thank God every day for them!
 
I live in a small Midwestern community where I’m the town’s High School Band Director. Needless to say, people know who I am.

My wife and I had our first child this past November, and while we don’t take her out much yet, we’ve had some fun experiences the last few times we’ve gone out for dinner.

Two weeks ago we went to the local supper club where we’re pretty good friends with the owners. It was later in the evening, and most of the people were in the bar. As we tried to eat our meal, our baby started fussing. The waitress came right to our table, and whisked our baby off on a tour of the restaurant so everyone in town could see her. We were able to eat our meal without our baby fussing. Everyone in town who hadn’t met her got to.

Last Friday we went for dinner early in the evening before the band had to play at the basketball game. My superintendent and his wife came not long after we ordered, and were seated in the booth behind us. Right on cue, when our food arrived, the baby started fussing. The administrator’s wife tapped me on the shoulder and said, “I’ll hold her, and you two just enjoy your meal.” When the administrator and his wife’s meal arrived, she had a hard time giving my daughter back to me, she enjoyed holding her that much.

I have a line of students willing to babysit. My wife teaches a few nightclasses at the local university. If the pep band is on the same night as one of my wife’s classes, the baby goes with me, and one of the students watches by daughter while the band plays.

My daughter definately isn’t a nuisance – the entire town loves her and loves it when we bring her out!
 
I am not anti-children, but I do admit that when I pay to eat in a restaurant, I’m not paying to listen to the crying of or deal with the misbehaving of other people’s children. In fact, a buffet restaurant is quite possibly the WORST place for children. I have nightmares of dirty, snotty hands in the bucket of pasta salad.

Want a good meal out at a restaurant? Have small children? Do you really want to deal with them in a restaurant and inflict that on others who have paid an often substantial amount of money to have a nice, quiet meal served to them?.. Hire a babysitter. Most neighborhoods have teens who will do it for cheaply.

I’ve been known to eat in the smoking section, even though I don’t smoke, so that I can have a quiet meal with adults.

-Michael
 
Hmm, you have a bit of a point… but then again, when you pay for a train ticket, don’t you want a nice peaceful ride to your destination? But what you get sometimes is a ride with noisy children. I know it’s not quite the same thing… maybe you can find a restaurant that doesn’t allow children inside.

PS Personally I prefer children’s noises going into my ears than cigarette smoke going into my nose, but that’s just me.
 
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SouthCoast:
I am not anti-children, but I do admit that when I pay to eat in a restaurant, I’m not paying to listen to the crying of or deal with the misbehaving of other people’s children. In fact, a buffet restaurant is quite possibly the WORST place for children. I have nightmares of dirty, snotty hands in the bucket of pasta salad.

Want a good meal out at a restaurant? Have small children? Do you really want to deal with them in a restaurant and inflict that on others who have paid an often substantial amount of money to have a nice, quiet meal served to them?.. Hire a babysitter. Most neighborhoods have teens who will do it for cheaply.

I’ve been known to eat in the smoking section, even though I don’t smoke, so that I can have a quiet meal with adults.

-Michael
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I have 6 children and while we very seldom go out because of the EXTEMELY substantial amount of money it costs us to do it, my wife and I still have a life and once and a while we enjoy dinner out. I dont have anyone near who can babysit, actually I think that most of them are kind of like yourself and dislike children (huh I wonder did people who dislike children hate themselves growing up?) Anyway my point is that we pay a much higher price to be there than most of the others there, my children are for the most part behaved and we dont let them run amuk, but once in a while they may whine a bit. I dont think that is much different than listening to the self absorbed persons who are without children whinning about how imperfect their meal is. To me it is those people who need to stay home and cook for themselves since nothing pleases them except hearing themselves complain. Id much rather listen to the innocent rantings of a child.
 
I have three children and yes when they were smaller, toddlers it was very hard when we went anywhere. But, awhile ago my family went out to a TGIFriday’s and the tables were very close. We sat next to a table that I guess had two sets of families. I guess all friends. But, the parents allowed the small children to throw their food around and toss milk everywhere. On top of that the one little boy screamed to a point where we could not even hear each other at our table. I was very annoyed with this, and I have children of my own. When they left the entire area of where they say looked like a bomb went off. The waiter had to get on his hands and knees to clean up the floor. Very disturbing. I was very upset to find out later that the milk that was thrown splattered on my jacket that I had placed on the back of my chair. When children misbehave to this point than I can see why people who don’t have children make remarks. :rolleyes:
 
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SouthCoast:
I am not anti-children, but I do admit that when I pay to eat in a restaurant, I’m not paying to listen to the crying of or deal with the misbehaving of other people’s children. In fact, a buffet restaurant is quite possibly the WORST place for children. I have nightmares of dirty, snotty hands in the bucket of pasta salad.

Want a good meal out at a restaurant? Have small children? Do you really want to deal with them in a restaurant and inflict that on others who have paid an often substantial amount of money to have a nice, quiet meal served to them?.. Hire a babysitter. Most neighborhoods have teens who will do it for cheaply.

I’ve been known to eat in the smoking section, even though I don’t smoke, so that I can have a quiet meal with adults.

-Michael
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Good points, Michael. I have seen the same things in restaurants. Unfortunately, people like you describe here are clueless. I’m not sure what the answer is to this. I think people need to take a stand against this type of behavior. Perhaps ask to be moved to a different section of the restaurant, or just leave and go elsewhere–explaining to the manager why. If everyone took a stand, then the restaurant managers wouldn’t be so mamby pamby about kicking these types out.

However, that being said, the OP was talking about one little baby that was only whining a little bit.
 
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SouthCoast:
I am not anti-children, but I do admit that when I pay to eat in a restaurant, I’m not paying to listen to the crying of or deal with the misbehaving of other people’s children. In fact, a buffet restaurant is quite possibly the WORST place for children. I have nightmares of dirty, snotty hands in the bucket of pasta salad.

sigh I don’t pay to hear loud cellphone conversations or sex talk from other tables either, but such is life in a society mostly devoid of basic manners these days.

Want a good meal out at a restaurant? Have small children? Do you really want to deal with them in a restaurant and inflict that on others who have paid an often substantial amount of money to have a nice, quiet meal served to them?.. Hire a babysitter. Most neighborhoods have teens who will do it for cheaply.

ARGH! I’m not leaving my babies with some teenager, cheap or not.
We almost never eat at fast food or buffet type resturants. My kids might get pizza or McD’s type outings about once every other year. We figure if we’re going to spend money to eat out, it had better be a nice meal with full service. It is NOT a hardship in any way whatsoever to take all the kids with us and we have never received anything but compliments on their behavior.
The problem is NOT the children. It’s ill-mannered adults passing on their bad manners to their children. It doesn’t help that very few families these days eat dinner around the table at home either. For many children sitting down to a quiet meal together is a foreign experience at home, so expecting them to know the protocol at a resturant is not realistic.

I’ve been known to eat in the smoking section, even though I don’t smoke, so that I can have a quiet meal with adults.

Ack, I’d rather not eat than have my food taste like an ashtray. My dh is the opposite of you. He misses us and often asks for the family section when on business to hear the family “buz” while he eats.
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Maureen Fiore:
the parents allowed the small children to throw their food around and toss milk everywhere. On top of that the one little boy screamed to a point where we could not even hear each other at our table. I was very annoyed with this, and I have children of my own. When they left the entire area of where they say looked like a bomb went off. The waiter had to get on his hands and knees to clean up the floor. Very disturbing. I was very upset to find out later that the milk that was thrown splattered on my jacket that I had placed on the back of my chair. When children misbehave to this point than I can see why people who don’t have children make remarks. :rolleyes:
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hmm, if the description is as bad as you say, then I agree the parents should have stepped out for a good “talking to” to some little fellows.
My 21 month old will “litter” some and that’s expected of his age. Some crackers, maybe a fork, and/or sometimes a drink does spill. Let’s face it, if an adult spills a drink no one freaks out about it and thinks they are rude people. Accidents happen, so let’s be willing to cut the little people a little break here. Part of the reason anyone eats out is to not have to clean up. That’s part of the job in a resturant. So no, I don’t clean the floor when we eat out.
However, food is NEVER thrown or dropped on purpose more than once and screaming is NEVER tolorated.
 
Rob’s Wife said:
hmm, if the description is as bad as you say, then I agree the parents should have stepped out for a good “talking to” to some little fellows.
My 21 month old will “litter” some and that’s expected of his age. Some crackers, maybe a fork, and/or sometimes a drink does spill. Let’s face it, if an adult spills a drink no one freaks out about it and thinks they are rude people. Accidents happen, so let’s be willing to cut the little people a little break here. Part of the reason anyone eats out is to not have to clean up. That’s part of the job in a resturant. So no, I don’t clean the floor when we eat out.
However, food is NEVER thrown or dropped on purpose more than once and screaming is NEVER tolorated.
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It was just as bad as I described and once again I do have children and I was very surprised that the parents did not control their children. When my children were toddlers, yes, then did make a mess on the table and I never left the restuarant expecting the waiter or waitress to clean up after my children. I feel that that is not their job. Parents should remember that children should be respectful and teach their children to learn proper table manners. Toddlers can taught, I know I taught my children to have manners at the table even in my house.
 
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