Children Raised by Homosexuals are 7 times more likely to be Gays or Bisexuals

[Abbadon]

Yes. They can be.

Not much…no

Awwww have a little faith in us, the science community has done alot in the last 100 years alone. Notice the internet, computers, mobile phones, airplanes, antibiotics and other modern medicine, advanced robotics, advanced crop production, housing production, advanced heating/cooling, cars, roads, bridges, digital cameras, the movies, modern kitchen ware, refrigeration…

And the future looks crazy. I recommend you listen to the Nature Journal Podcast. It just blows my mind every time.

Did you know we have computer circuitry that builds it’s self? These scientist of course have never watched The Terminator or The Matrix

Thankyou court14 that was the one.

 

[Valke2]

What can we expect when such children are brought by immoral people committing depraved acts?

I don’t believe the report actually said they were raised by republicans.

 

[Teen4Christ]

I don’t believe the report actually said they were raised by republicans.

*claps



Now that’s a good one.

 

[court14]

Is this guy one of the experts from NARTH?

 

[thewalrus]

I don’t believe the report actually said they were raised by republicans.

lol classic!

 

[syromalabarcath]

I don’t believe the report actually said they were raised by republicans.

AHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

 

[Elizabeth502]

From my own reading, biological remain the main factor, not environment.

Then you are carefully selecting what you read. The latest studies (post-1993) confirm that there is no ‘gay gene.’ This is bunk: put forth by the homosexual crowd to justify so-called deterministic behavior.

It is a very different thing to assert – and there is evidence about this – that what we in our culture identify as “masculine” and conversely “feminine” does have a genetic component, in that, for example, “effeminate” men – men who tend toward sensitivity, caring, and have a highly developed aesthetic consciousness – have a lower “male” component than average for the population of men. The ground-breaking book, Brain Sex, discussed this. We all lie somewhere on a spectrum of male to female, in our tendencies. That’s all they are: tendencies. As someone correctly pointed out on this thread, sexual behavior is more complex than that, having a strong learned component. In cultures such as certain indigneous cultures, such as certain ancient cultures, a wide variety of sexual behavior was/is accepted, as it is learned and passed down as normative. And interestingly, in those cases, in fact, the culture is the stronger component than the tendencies governed by the brain, as these kind of polymorphous sexual practices can co-exist with traditionally “masculine” personalities and roles.

 

[Abbadon]

Then you are carefully selecting what you read. The latest studies (post-1993) confirm that there is no ‘gay gene.’ This is bunk: put forth by the homosexual crowd to justify so-called deterministic behavior.

It is a very different thing to assert – and there is evidence about this – that what we in our culture identify as “masculine” and conversely “feminine” does have a genetic component, in that, for example, “effeminate” men – men who tend toward sensitivity, caring, and have a highly developed aesthetic consciousness – have a lower “male” component than average for the population of men. The ground-breaking book, Brain Sex, discussed this. We all lie somewhere on a spectrum of male to female, in our tendencies. That’s all they are: tendencies. As someone correctly pointed out on this thread, sexual behavior is more complex than that, having a strong learned component. In cultures such as certain indigneous cultures, such as certain ancient cultures, a wide variety of sexual behavior was/is accepted, as it is learned and passed down as normative. And interestingly, in those cases, in fact, the culture is the stronger component than the tendencies governed by the brain, as these kind of polymorphous sexual practices can co-exist with traditionally “masculine” personalities and roles.

I think your putting to much emphasis on non biochemical environmental aspects. I think it is a bit early to rule out a genetic component in homosexuality. But in my opinion I’m leaning closely towards biochemical. Processes that occur in the mothers womb. The probability of homosexuality in boys going up as number of children born increase. Probability of both twins being homosexual being high.

I just wish I had the sources for these, all a bit pointless without sources. No real time to look for them.

If penguins can be homosexuals how is it such a complicated environmental issue as you describe?

 

[Abbadon]

Brain Sex, discussed this. We all lie somewhere on a spectrum of male to female, in our tendencies. That’s all they are: tendencies.

And what would be the female tendency in choosing a partner? Now if you had male genitalia and female tendencies?

 

[PaulinVA]

Is there a gene for ignorance?

Yes. Turns out it the same one that causes rudeness.

 

[m_sr_a]

Wow, public apologies from “ex-gay” ministries.

Love is not to be confounded with a form of it’s expression alone.

Sex cannot be heald without love.

Love can exist without attention to another person’s reproductive organs!

 

[Valke2]

Love is not to be confounded with a form of it’s expression alone.

Sex cannot be heald without love.

Love can exist without attention to another person’s reproductive organs!

Theoreticly. But why should it?

 

[Spirithound]

Theoreticly. But why should it?

Tell me, do you love your mother?

 

[Bennie_P]

All the properly conducted studies find the figure to be 2 to 2.5 percent of men and 1.1 to 1.4 percent of women, gay or bisexual. The widely-cited ten-percent figure came from just one study, the discredited Kinsey Report, which falsified and duplicated responses to fill it out because it had a sample shortfall, and was mostly conducted among prisoners and included thirdhand responses, and which also defined “homsexual and bisexual” as “having had a homosexual experience or impulse” at any time in the past ten years (or was it 20?).
Kinsey misled the people about what others were doing and thinking very badly. He took convicted child molesters’ word on when people begin having sexual desires. I wouldn’t let him tell me what train to take to City Hall.

Ane which studies are these?

 

[Teen4Christ]

Love is not to be confounded with a form of it’s expression alone.

Sex cannot be heald without love.

Love can exist without attention to another person’s reproductive organs!:thumbsup:

I disagree. Many SS couples are in loving relationships. Maybe it’s not love in the sense that "hey our love will make a baby’ but it’s still love…

 

[Bennie_P]

Then you are carefully selecting what you read. The latest studies (post-1993) confirm that there is no ‘gay gene.’ This is bunk: put forth by the homosexual crowd to justify so-called deterministic behavior.

It is a very different thing to assert – and there is evidence about this – that what we in our culture identify as “masculine” and conversely “feminine” does have a genetic component, in that, for example, “effeminate” men – men who tend toward sensitivity, caring, and have a highly developed aesthetic consciousness – have a lower “male” component than average for the population of men. The ground-breaking book, Brain Sex, discussed this. We all lie somewhere on a spectrum of male to female, in our tendencies. That’s all they are: tendencies. As someone correctly pointed out on this thread, sexual behavior is more complex than that, having a strong learned component. In cultures such as certain indigneous cultures, such as certain ancient cultures, a wide variety of sexual behavior was/is accepted, as it is learned and passed down as normative. And interestingly, in those cases, in fact, the culture is the stronger component than the tendencies governed by the brain, as these kind of polymorphous sexual practices can co-exist with traditionally “masculine” personalities and roles.

With in prison communities there are rates of homosexuly activitie, is it becuase more homosexulas goe to prison? No, the men(women inwomen’s prison) learn instead of controling the urges, that they can satify the sexual urges with homosexual sex. Many of the men/women when they return to society return to heterosexual sexual activity. this is one of best examples where enviroment does show that one, homosexuality is highly determined by enviroment and two, those that choose homosexual sex, in many causes choose to stop acting in homosexual activity and and direct their urges to their proper gender role.

Their might be something concerning genetics, but it has not been proven in any sound science. Though if you look, you can see where enviroment increases the ups and downs of same-sex sexual contact.

This can be seen among some military cultures over the years also.

 

[Elizabeth502]

I think it is a bit early to rule out a genetic component in homosexuality.

I am not ruling it out; quite the contrary. I am saying that genetic components and genetic tendencies are not isolates. I’m saying that anyone who studies both anthropology and the animal kingdom understands sexual behavior to be heavily embedded in a culture and shaped by an environment and the allowable possibilities in the environment.

Some of you must have missed the History Channel’s The History of Sex last night. (Aired locally in my region.) It may even surprise you to learn that extremes of sexual behavior (inclusive of now-illicit behavior) were even tolerated by the Roman Church during the Middle Ages. As I said earlier, ancient cultures such as the Mayans, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, had very different sexual outlooks. And certainly when it comes to the first 2 of those, they considered themselves simultaneously highly religious cultures. For example, to believe in a gay gene as being causative of homosexual practice, one would have to believe that virtually all ancient Greek males were born gay or bisexual.

I interrupted this post for several minutes to search for an article I bookmarked several months ago, and am annoyed I can’t find now, but it was a scientific study on the supposedly ‘homosexual’ animal kingdom, which in fact appears mostly to arise from an absence or paucity of the opposite sex in instances where this does occur. Animals have environments and societies and social orders, too – just not always as well understood or as well studied as human societies.

 

[m_sr_a]

I disagree. Many SS couples are in loving relationships. Maybe it’s not love in the sense that "hey our love will make a baby’ but it’s still love…

Would they still be without lust? Is touching genitals without reproductiveness a constituent not to be lacked of? If so, it is depedency.

 

[m_sr_a]

How so?

If a husband can refrain from violating his wife …

 

[court14]

I am not ruling it out; quite the contrary. I am saying that genetic components and genetic tendencies are not isolates. I’m saying that anyone who studies both anthropology and the animal kingdom understands sexual behavior to be heavily embedded in a culture and shaped by an environment and the allowable possibilities in the environment.

Some of you must have missed the History Channel’s The History of Sex last night. (Aired locally in my region.) It may even surprise you to learn that extremes of sexual behavior (inclusive of now-illicit behavior) were even tolerated by the Roman Church during the Middle Ages. As I said earlier, ancient cultures such as the Mayans, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, had very different sexual outlooks. And certainly when it comes to the first 2 of those, they considered themselves simultaneously highly religious cultures. For example, to believe in a gay gene as being causative of homosexual practice, one would have to believe that virtually all ancient Greek males were born gay or bisexual.

I interrupted this post for several minutes to search for an article I bookmarked several months ago, and am annoyed I can’t find now, but it was a scientific study on the supposedly ‘homosexual’ animal kingdom, which in fact appears mostly to arise from an absence or paucity of the opposite sex in instances where this does occur. Animals have environments and societies and social orders, too – just not always as well understood or as well studied as human societies.

I would like to read this study… Controls… Have you found it?