Children will never be taught the authentic faith

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Looking at my upbringing, people aren’t taught the real faith anymore here in England. I went to a catholic primary school, catholic church every week had catholic parents.

We weren’t taught about mortal sin,venial sin, hell, the ten commandments.
I didn’t know what grace was till I was about 20 when I googled it after I heard the term.

All I knew was that we would sing songs at school about how Jesus loves us. Never learnt any of this during my first holy communion.

My parents never corrected me if I lied, or if I dishonoured them - it’s only as an adult I’ve realised how terrible these sins are.

The priest would just talk about in mass how much God loves us and how he will forgive us for everything- it just seemed so easy to get to heaven!

I look back now and I feel almost angry that I was taken down the wrong path, I’m the only one from my school who still attends mass, but I had to do my own research on Catholicism to find out the truth, and about how few people are saved.

All catholic primary schools in england are getting even worse now…not only they are NOT teaching the proper catholic faith, but they are bringing in gender neutral uniforms and a few have brought in STONEWALL to do shows/ assemblys (group that explains LGBT to children).

What hope have our generation got?Nothing is taught anymore neither in schools/home/church

I feel so sad about it.
 
The Catechism and the Bible are easily available. Things are not necessarily as dark as you suggest.
 
That almost sounds like my upbringing though I have to say there were more than one or two good teachers and priests that knew the faith well. The others I don’t think were purposefully negligent either. Mind you, this was coming up to and beyond 20 years ago; I have no idea what things are generally like in most schools now. I have unfortunately heard from the pulpit some different interpretations of the faith than I think are entirely orthodox. Strange that we should today have to use this already claimed term of “orthodox” in the Catholic Church.
 
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PaulfromIowa said:
The Catechism and the Bible are easily available. Things are not necessarily as dark as you suggest.
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I didn’t know what a catechism was for a long time, plus you rely on the church (priests, schools) to interpret the Bible
 
I was raised in an atheist household, where Christianity was regarded with laughter and contempt. My father even sat me down in my late teens to tell me that honor didn’t exist, and that if I ever lived my life with anything other than raw self-interest, then I was a fool. And yet here I am now, a grateful member of the Catholic Church. It is true that God can bring good from any amount of evil. The current lamentable state of catechesis, which by the way is also observable here in the USA, is merely another challenge for us to surmount. Sad, yes, but also inspiring of hard work and determination to correct it.
 
I would never trust any school system, Catholic or not, to educate kids in the faith. Knowing that things were getting bad already in my Catholic schooling decades ago, my parents supplemented our Catholic education by regular “classes” at home–home schooling, although it wasn’t called that at the time. It is up to the parents, as it always really has been. Parents need to take this role seriously. And of course, many don’t.
 
You’re absolutely right. Catholic schools were a disgrace where I grew up as well. The Faith simply isn’t taught. Example from my own case: I took five years of Latin and not once were we presented with a single line of Latin from the liturgy. We were taught Latin using strictly secular Latin writings only. And never ever were we taught anything resembling Catholic ethics. We did have a “religion” subject (never “catechism”!) but even that was apparently too Catholic for the Catholic school, because it had been subsumed under “Social Science” by the time I was 13.
 
[Applause!] Yes, we should always remember that parents are the chief educators of their children.
 
Parents! At our children’s baptism, we are told that we are the child’s primary educators! We cannot look past the mirror if our children are not taught the faith. Will they practice it?

Free will tells us that a percentage will not. As lamentable as that is, the Lord allows it for our freedom.
 
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The priest would just talk about in mass how much God loves us and how he will forgive us for everything- it just seemed so easy to get to heaven!
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That is a problem alright.

Mercy without a sense of justice is false mercy.

I certainly will be teaching my kids about these things though. I know they won’t be taught in school or mass.
 
I think whether in faith schools or non faith schools, the parents still have the responsibility of educating their children. You can’t expect a teacher with 30 kids in a class to cover everything they need to know - especially in a faith as deep and complex as the catholic one!

It’s a shame that you feel like you’ve missed out though - but perhaps if you have children now or in the future you may be able to give them the opportunity to learn that you feel you didn’t?

My husbands children both attended catholic school in Scotland and it didn’t make them better people or better informed catholics - schooling may provide a base or a foundation but it is up to the parents to enforce, educate and lead by example.
 
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I think whether in faith schools or non faith schools, the parents still have the responsibility of educating their children. You can’t expect a teacher with 30 kids in a class to cover everything they need to know - especially in a faith as deep and complex as the catholic one!

It’s a shame that you feel like you’ve missed out though - but perhaps if you have children now or in the future you may be able to give them the opportunity to learn that you feel you didn’t?

My husbands children both attended catholic school in Scotland and it didn’t make them better people or better informed catholics - schooling may provide a base or a foundation but it is up to the parents to enforce, educate and lead by example.
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but everyone I know who are parents now… are the ones brought up with the wishywashy Jesus loves you no matter what, we are all getting to heaven education. Bad teachings are passed on from generation now.
 
When was this? Someone I know said that the Catholic schools been pretty secularized by the 50s and 60s when he was in school.
 
I would say homeschooling is a good option if the children can still socialize heavily with other children. In school those who were home schooled and entered the school later often stuck out. This is an important thing for homeschooling parents to remember. Set up a group of Catholic parents who homeschool and have your kids socialize with each other often!
 
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I think people assume homeschoolers are more socially awkward than they actually are. I live under a rock compared to the homeschoolers I’ve met. Probably because they have more time to enjoy being in the real world while my teachers bogged me down with busy work.
 
Holy Communion*

I realized the difference between good and bad Catholic education. I never went to Catholic school, but I took classes at my parish. Before First Communion I went to a relatively reverent parish, where people seemed to at least hold the faith and teach it. Afterwards, my parents decided to send me to another one. This new one was not as reverent. We didn’t learn that much, and I think I was disappointed even back then. I might have developed stronger in the faith as a young child if I had stayed in the other parish. I thank God and the intercession of the Mother of Mercy, our dear mother, who wishes for us to be saved. I’m convinced that I was brought back by her intercession. Maybe it had to do with my willingness to cooperate, or prayer when I was younger that caused her intercession. I’m so grateful to have been so blessed! So many people have left the faith with having a good education, but I think many more leave after having been poorly educated. I suspect that these bad teachers will be held partically accountable for so many people who have left the faith, or “lapsed”. Not teaching the faith for fear of frightening them or hurting their feelings is NOT charitable, just cowardice, and but a horrible sin which pastors must strive to eliminate by eliminating bad teachers.
 
Based on my experience, should I have children that are homeschooled they will be as heavily socialized with the children of like-minded parents as possible.
 
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