Chilling concept:" Preconception" screening

[BobCatholic]

well, thats not a real argument then.

There are those who dehumanize the unborn, including embryos. I’m surprised you accept their arguments.

If it is OK to dehumanize them, then it is OK to dehumanize other human beings. The only difference between them is age.

Age discrimination is a good thing. NOT!

 

[didymus]

My understanding (which may be faulty) is that for many conditions you need not only have the gene but that it must be “switched on” at some point in your life – or it may never be, or it may not be until you are older.

 

[iamme]

There are those who dehumanize the unborn, including embryos. I’m surprised you accept their arguments.

If it is OK to dehumanize them, then it is OK to dehumanize other human beings. The only difference between them is age.

Age discrimination is a good thing. NOT!

no, age is not the only difference between them.
if you want to get down to it in a real technicality type of way, a fetus is a parasite. it is an organism that cannot survive without a host. a fetus, or embryo or anything else cannot survive outside the mothers (host) body. a baby can, although it requires the care of a parent. that is how i can “dehumanize it”.
say a baby is born at prom, and the mom throws it in the dumpster. if its perfectly healthy, theres a chance someone can find it, and it can survive.
the same cannot be said of a fetus before the third trimester (under normal circumstances) or an embryo or a zygote.

if you want to think about it as age discrimination, thats fine, but theres a reason a newborn isnt considered a nine month old.

 

[nomie]

if you want to get down to it in a real technicality type of way, a fetus is a parasite. it is an organism that cannot survive without a host.

To call a zygote/embryo/fetus a parasite is wrong. If you are to look up the word you’ll see that(see below). Definition one, a parasite has to be a different species that its host. Definition two, you would have to admit the “parasite” is a person.**

par⋅a⋅site   /ˈpærəˌsaɪt/ [par-uh-sahyt]
–noun 1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.
3. (in ancient Greece) a person who received free meals in return for amusing or impudent conversation, flattering remarks, etc.

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Origin:
1530–40; < L parasītus < Gk parásītos one who eats at another’s table, orig. adj.: feeding beside, equiv. to para- para- 1 + sît(os) grain, food + -os adj. suffix

 

[iamme]

To call a zygote/embryo/fetus a parasite is wrong. If you are to look up the word you’ll see that(see below). Definition one, a parasite has to be a different species** that its host. Definition two, you would have to admit the “parasite” is a person.

par⋅a⋅site   /ˈpærəˌsaɪt/ [par-uh-sahyt]
–noun 1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.
3. (in ancient Greece) a person who received free meals in return for amusing or impudent conversation, flattering remarks, etc.

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Origin:
1530–40; < L parasītus < Gk parásītos one who eats at another’s table, orig. adj.: feeding beside, equiv. to para- para- 1 + sît(os) grain, food + -os adj. suffix

so by definition 2 im right. except now youll say something like “oh, we should be able to kill bums now snorthahaha!” when in fact im still right, except instead of technically, its basically.
also, none of my other statements count for anything? theyre 100% true…

 

[nomie]

So you are saying the preborn are people? That is great. Also, I find the term “bum” pretty rude if you are taking about the homeless and/or disadvantaged. Everyone deserves respect especially the marginalized. I can’t account for the “truth” of all your other posts. I don’t have the time to read EVERYTHING you write . I was just commenting on your use of the word parasite.

 

[iamme]

So you are saying the preborn are people? That is great. Also, I find the term “bum” pretty rude if you are taking about the homeless and/or disadvantaged. Everyone deserves respect especially the marginalized. I can’t account for the “truth” of all your other posts. I don’t have the time to read EVERYTHING you write . I was just commenting on your use of the word parasite.

and one the second definition was a PERSON (hence me saying PEOPLE) who live off the hospitality of others, and since parastites a derogatory word, and bum is a derogatory word, i used it interchangeably… tho you thinking about killing the homeless says a lot about you. and by your definition, every “preborn” is any sperm that does or doesnt make it in or around a woman. think of the trillions of dead preborns lynying in a tissue somewhere! saddens the heart. i think the most pc christian you can get is unborn, if theyre conceived, but aborted, or aborted by god, i mean miscarried.
as for the none of my other statements comment, i meant the rest of my post, which you ignored, couldnt read, or didnt comment on.
it was all accurate.

 

[nomie]

iamme,
The only person who brought up the disgusting idea to harm the homeless was you. As I clearly said before “Everyone deserves respect” Just because you misused a word doesn’t give you the right to make up stuff about me. Take care!

 

[iamme]

iamme,
The only person who brought up the disgusting idea to harm the homeless was you. As I clearly said before “Everyone deserves respect” Just because you misused a word doesn’t give you the right to make up stuff about me. Take care!

well, i never mentioned the homeless. in any way. i used the word “bums” which is someone who lives off the hospitality of others, makin g no contribution of their own. YOU said homeless in regards to that, not me. and i didnt mean to come off as snarky either, i went to the dentist earlier today and am on a good amount of painkillers, so forgive me for that.
would it be more clear if i said that while this whole thing is extinguishing life, it would be more apt to say that its not life that could possibly ever survive on its own? its not a human being, tho it could possibly have the potential to be a human being if that is what the scientist who cooked it up in the petri dish decided to do with it? i mean, i think im pretty clear (as is science) that these embryos and stems cells were never cultured to be human, and the people who they got the material from had donated or intended for these materials to be used for this specific purpose, right?

 

[nomie]

Man,
These discussions can really suck me in. I was planning on going to bed early tonight. I’ll be honest, I can agree with you on *some *points but on others, I think it is best(for me anyways) if we can agree to disagree . Good night & speedy recovery from your dentist visit.

 

[iamme]

Man,
These discussions can really suck me in. I was planning on going to bed early tonight. I’ll be honest, I can agree with you on *some *points but on others, I think it is best(for me anyways) if we can agree to disagree . Good night & speedy recovery from your dentist visit.

good night, and thank you! i hope its over fast too!