China Plans To Build A Train To Alaska

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This isn’t super pressing news or anything, but the idea of it appeals to me, or at least captures my imagination.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/09/china-may-build-an-undersea-train-to-america/

China is planning to build a train line that would, in theory, connect Beijing to the United States. According to a report in the Beijing Times, citing an expert at the Chinese Academy of Engineering, Chinese officials are considering a route that would start in the country’s northeast, thread through eastern Siberia and cross the Bering Strait via a 125-mile long underwater tunnel into Alaska.

“Right now we’re already in discussions. Russia has already been thinking about this for many years,” says Wang Mengshu, the engineer cited in the article. The proposed “China-Russia-Canada-America” line would be some 8,000 miles long, 1,800 miles longer than the Trans-Siberian railroad. The tunnel that the Chinese would help bore beneath the icy seas would be four times the length of what traverses the English Channel.

That’s reason enough to be skeptical of the project, of which there are few details beyond what was attributed to the one official cited by the state-run Beijing Times. Meanwhile, a report in the state-run China Daily insists the country does have the technology and means to complete a construction project of this scale, including another tunnel that would link the Chinese province of Fujian with nearby Taiwan.

In the past half decade or so, China has embarked on an astonishing rail construction spree, laying down tens of thousands of miles tracks and launching myriad high-speed lines. It has signaled its intent to build a “New Silk Road” – a heavy-duty freight network through Central Asia that would connect with Europe via rail rather than the old caravans that once bridged West and East. A map that appeared on Xinhua’s news site outlines the route below, alongside a parallel vision for a “maritime Silk Road.”

While some of its neighbors watch China’s rise warily, the main plank of Beijing’s soft power pitch has always been its stated desire to improve economic ties and trade withvirtually everyone. “China’s wisdom for building an open world economy and open international relations is being drawn on more and more each day,” trumpets the Xinhua report that accompanies the map above, according to the Diplomat.

To that end, Beijing has assiduously resurrected the narrative of the ancient Silk Road as well as given prime billing to the tales of China’s famed Ming dynasty treasure fleets, which sailed all across the Indian Ocean. Seen in such grand historic perspective, a tunnel to Alaska doesn’t seem too far-fetched.
 
A big “no thanks!” to this one! Last thing we need is an even more direct route to or from Red China. I’ve no interest in their “New Silk Road” either. We should be more concerned with rebuilding our industrial infrastructure back up and employing North Americans to make the products which are sold domestically rather than ease the route for more junk to be imported from China.
 
Cool! Imagine a high speed rail line hauling freight, fuel and time for shipping cut by over half!

I love mega-engineering ideas like this.

Imagine being able to travel across the world without ever hopping on a plane 🙂
 
Cool! Imagine a high speed rail line hauling freight, fuel and time for shipping cut by over half!

I love mega-engineering ideas like this.

Imagine being able to travel across the world without ever hopping on a plane 🙂
Except Australia, sadly 🙂

While I would do it if affordable, because I think trains are way cool, most folks would have to be way afraid of flight to take a 6,000 mile train journey over a few hours in flight.

ICXC NIKA.
 
It’s not at all certain that Russia would get on board, pun intended, with this Chinese plan.

ICXC NIKA
 
What are the construction costs for a project of that scale in that part of the world? Probably astronomical. Once it’s up and running, what are the operating costs and maintenance? Will they recoup it by freight and passenger fares? I don’t think it’s financially viable. Not gonna happen.
 
What are the construction costs for a project of that scale in that part of the world? Probably astronomical. And will they recoup it by freight and passenger fares? Doesn’t seem like a sound financial investment.
There is no way to amortize the costs, as ships are far more economical than rail for bulk shipment.

This is just the PRC showing off what they say they can do.

ICXC NIKA.
 
To me, this seems like some kind of posturing so China can try to assert power. I don’t trust that this is a goodwill gesture to make travel easier. Plus, in this day and age, an underwater tunnel of that nature seems like a giant target for attacks.
 
A troop train maybe?

They might take over most of Alaska, Western Canada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and both Dakotas before anyone would notice.

:yawn: WHO? Did WHAAAT?

When America wants railroads built in sparsely inhabited places, it traditionally looks to certain kinds of people. Look for Ireland to plan its “train to Maine” soon. :irish2:

The new “golden spike” could be driven somewhere in eastern New Mexico maybe. Or the nearest Six Flags Park.

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:eek: - And LOOK! It’s made entirely of PEOPLE!
 
Except Australia, sadly 🙂

While I would do it if affordable, because I think trains are way cool, most folks would have to be way afraid of flight to take a 6,000 mile train journey over a few hours in flight.

ICXC NIKA.
Especially a train travelling over the Bering Sea in stormy weather. Yuk! I’d rather fly above the clouds!
 
Call me a skeptic. Even if it were to happen, and considering our congress can’t even agree across the aisle on anything, let alone across the whole continent of Asia, it won’t be in our lifetime.
 
When the CCCP went sayonara in the late 1900s, Popular Mechanics had a feature about a Tri-level bridge from Kamchatka to Alaska.

The brief summer of US-Russian friendship has passed, and no such project was ever planned, let alone attempted.

I’ll believe this one when I see it.

ICXC NIKA.
 
No transfers of cargo would be saved, due to the change in rail gauge between Russia and NA, and possibly China and Russia.

ICXC NIKA.
 
No transfers of cargo would be saved, due to the change in rail gauge between Russia and NA, and possibly China and RussiaICXC NIKA.
Ok, suppose the Russians are convinced to allow a dedicated line from China to North America using standard gauge?
 
Ok, suppose the Russians are convinced to allow a dedicated line from China to North America using standard gauge?
That would be cool, especially if VIA and Amtrak extended the electrified line down into NA.

I can’t imagine the two governments spending the money to help China make even more off of us.

ICXC NIKA.
 
This isn’t super pressing news or anything, but the idea of it appeals to me, or at least captures my imagination.

washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/09/china-may-build-an-undersea-train-to-america/

China is planning to build a train line that would, in theory, connect Beijing to the United States. According to a report in the Beijing Times, citing an expert at the Chinese Academy of Engineering, Chinese officials are considering a route that would start in the country’s northeast, thread through eastern Siberia and cross the Bering Strait via a 125-mile long underwater tunnel into Alaska.

“Right now we’re already in discussions. Russia has already been thinking about this for many years,” says Wang Mengshu, the engineer cited in the article. The proposed “China-Russia-Canada-America” line would be some 8,000 miles long, 1,800 miles longer than the Trans-Siberian railroad. The tunnel that the Chinese would help bore beneath the icy seas would be four times the length of what traverses the English Channel.

That’s reason enough to be skeptical of the project, of which there are few details beyond what was attributed to the one official cited by the state-run Beijing Times. Meanwhile, a report in the state-run China Daily insists the country does have the technology and means to complete a construction project of this scale, including another tunnel that would link the Chinese province of Fujian with nearby Taiwan.

In the past half decade or so, China has embarked on an astonishing rail construction spree, laying down tens of thousands of miles tracks and launching myriad high-speed lines. It has signaled its intent to build a “New Silk Road” – a heavy-duty freight network through Central Asia that would connect with Europe via rail rather than the old caravans that once bridged West and East. A map that appeared on Xinhua’s news site outlines the route below, alongside a parallel vision for a “maritime Silk Road.”

While some of its neighbors watch China’s rise warily, the main plank of Beijing’s soft power pitch has always been its stated desire to improve economic ties and trade withvirtually everyone. “China’s wisdom for building an open world economy and open international relations is being drawn on more and more each day,” trumpets the Xinhua report that accompanies the map above, according to the Diplomat.

To that end, Beijing has assiduously resurrected the narrative of the ancient Silk Road as well as given prime billing to the tales of China’s famed Ming dynasty treasure fleets, which sailed all across the Indian Ocean. Seen in such grand historic perspective, a tunnel to Alaska doesn’t seem too far-fetched.
If it means jobs for American workers, then I’m all in favor of it! 👍
 
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