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Yes, I just don’t think that sign like that on the side of the road works. I think those signs are better served at the March for Life or on a college campus or in other appropriate venues.
I strongly disagree about using them at the March for Life. There are TONS of kids there, and they usually get stuck looking at them longer because they aren’t just driving by. Besides, all of the adults at the March for Life know what an aborted baby looks like, if they want to.

Most of the rest of America, however, could use a good wake-up call. Many people honestly think the baby is just a “blob of tissue” until the last trimester or so. They somehow think that abortion is sanitary, painless, etc. Or at least that’s what they’ve convinced themselves to believe.

After WWII, Allied soldiers forced German citizens to tour the death camps. People were shocked. Most cried. Some completely broke down. But, until that moment, they had almost all rationalized or ignored what was going on, because it was just too mind-numbing to consider.

I remember reading something Fr. Pavone wrote, calling GE’s 4D Ultrasound commercial (set to the song “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face”), “The best pro-life commercial we didn’t have to pay for!” That will convince some people. On the other hand, I once worked with someone who giddily paraded his son’s ultrasound picture around for days… but is still only “personally opposed” to abortion.

Different lines of argument work for different people. Sometimes, seeing the violence of abortion is what finally breaks through the barriers to reach the person’s heart and mind.
 
Miss,

Great question, I used to feel the same way. The group that shows them at the March is called the Center for Bioethical Reform. I am closely associated with them and have worked with them in the past. Fr. Pavone sits on their board and the post abortion women’s group Silent No More. Many post abortive women work with CBR on their projects.

Here is a part of my prolife talk I want to share with you on exactly this question about young children seeing these photos. The talk is about the CBR group.

***You may be relieved to know that we aren’t directly targeting children with our graphic pictures; therefore, we won’t knowingly go to an area where only children are present, such as a preschool or an elementary school. The reality, however, is that it is impossible to reach the masses in society where no children will ever be present. If parents with young children see the images, they can practice parental discretion and distract their children as they would if there was a dead deer on the side of the road, or they can seize it as a teaching opportunity. They can gently explain to their children that some people hurt babies but that the people driving the trucks are trying to stop that. Furthermore, parents can reassure their children that they will never be hurt like the babies have been hurt because “mommy and daddy love you and will keep you safe.” Those parents can also say that unfortunately there are people in the world that are mean and selfish who will hurt an unborn child in the womb and because she loves her children that she would never allow this to happen to their child, those parents can teach their children that violence is wrong and love is good.

Parents sometimes use their children as an excuse for why the images shouldn’t be shown. The reality is that they don’t want to see the images. They may have guilt from past abortions and they don’t want to come to terms with their mistake. After all, children have consciences and they love babies. When children see the images they see a hurt baby and they want to know, “Who hurt the baby?”
The parent’s reaction determines the child’s reaction. An irate, swearing, and guilty parent will have a frustrated and confused child. But a calm, rational parent will have a calm child. I heard of a case of a 5-year-old who saw graphic abortion images. Her teenage sister gently explained the situation and although the little girl cried, she was moved to pray during family prayer time “that the doctors will stop killing babies.” Another child, a 9-year-old, who saw a graphic abortion photo went directly to his mother and said, “Mom, I want to stop abortion.”
Children have functioning consciences. The question is: do we?
Saying that children are tramatized by photos of abortion is bogus and disingenuous, adults cry foul because so many of them have been complicent and complacent in the violent killing of unborn babies, they feel guilt and shame about this, they don’t want that amplified by being forced to look at these photos, people are coping with abortion by denial, they deny its a baby, they deny its an act of violence, they want to believe its a blob of tissue, they want to believe its the lesser of two evils, we can’t stop the killing but we can stop the pretending***
 
Showing pictures of Abortion is definitely powerful and does change minds. I admit seeing pictures of an aborted baby changed my mind 25 years ago. These pictures must be shown!

Priests For Life website has listed many testimonies of those who changed their minds after seeing pictures of aborted babies. You can view those testimonies here…

priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/graphicspraise.htm
 
Children have functioning consciences. The question is: do we?
Saying that children are tramatized by photos of abortion is bogus and disingenuous, adults cry foul because so many of them have been complicent and complacent in the violent killing of unborn babies, they feel guilt and shame about this, they don’t want that amplified by being forced to look at these photos, people are coping with abortion by denial, they deny its a baby, they deny its an act of violence, they want to believe its a blob of tissue, they want to believe its the lesser of two evils, we can’t stop the killing but we can stop the pretending
So, I don’t approve of showing pictures of mutilated aborted children to other living children because my guilt over my involvement in past abortions? Really? Because I’ve never been involved in an abortion that I know of and I don’t have any problem seeing those images myself. This may be the case for some, but I do not believe that the appropriateness of any action is determined by my corresponding guilt or lack thereof.

The pictures are very useful, you’re right. I just don’t think little kids should see them. Just my opinion.
 
Opinions are valuable. Debates are valuable. But in the end, a decision needs to be made.

For those who want to get properly involved in working against abortion, I suggest they contact their local parish or diocese. You could also google “Project Rachel.”

My experience in front of an abortion clinic occurred when I was driving by one day. I told myself that if these people were not showing compassion for the young women going inside I would not stand with them. They were and I did. We had a sign with an image of the Blessed Virgin, another showing a baby in the womb (it appeared to be the same or similar to a photo published on the cover of Life or Look in the 1960s). One of the girls witnessing had an abortion at the clinic we were in front of, but later gave her life to Christ.

We prayed, handed out literature and talked to anyone who would listen.

I am not for censorship and I am for education. Such graphic images need to shown to mature individuals who have been led to believe that the “baby” is a fetus or blastocyst or clump of cells or embryo or anything other than a human being. Everyone reading this began life as an embryo, a unique human being.

This is science not belief. There are specialists called Embryologists. Why other people seem to think this is only a belief and not a scientifically proven fact is beyond me.

God bless,
Ed
 
Opinions are valuable. Debates are valuable. But in the end, a decision needs to be made.

For those who want to get properly involved in working against abortion, I suggest they contact their local parish or diocese. You could also google “Project Rachel.”

My experience in front of an abortion clinic occurred when I was driving by one day. I told myself that if these people were not showing compassion for the young women going inside I would not stand with them. They were and I did. We had a sign with an image of the Blessed Virgin, another showing a baby in the womb (it appeared to be the same or similar to a photo published on the cover of Life or Look in the 1960s). One of the girls witnessing had an abortion at the clinic we were in front of, but later gave her life to Christ.

We prayed, handed out literature and talked to anyone who would listen.

I am not for censorship and I am for education. Such graphic images need to shown to mature individuals who have been led to believe that the “baby” is a fetus or blastocyst or clump of cells or embryo or anything other than a human being. Everyone reading this began life as an embryo, a unique human being.

This is science not belief. There are specialists called Embryologists. Why other people seem to think this is only a belief and not a scientifically proven fact is beyond me.

God bless,
Ed
I wholeheartedly agree.
 
Dear Ed,

Thank you for your post.

However this is the same thinking in the prolife movement that has occured over the last 35 years trying to end abortion, we have failed because of that.

You are right, a decision needs to be made. You and others need to decide whether or not you care more about the feelings of born people who might get upset from looking at abortion photos or the lives of babies being aborted. You can’t have it both ways.

You mentioned getting involved against abortion properly. There is historical evidence that says that happy photos or photos of our Virgin Mary save lives from other atrocities.

Project Rachel workers adamently support the use of graphic images of abortion because they talk to women who decided not to murder their unborn baby because of them.

I agree with you on the need for compassion for these women. But compassion isn’t hiding the truth, this truth that causes so many women not to abort. If you really care about these women as well you would support what will convince them not to abort their child.

Although photos of unborn babies that aren’t graphic do help the prolife movement by showing the humanity of the unborn, those photos do NOT dehumanize abortion. That is why so few women decide not to have abortions from seeing those photos. These women have seen these photos many times or born babies that they could never abort, so they want to have their abortion before it turns into that baby.

If someone was mature in the first place, they would not be having an abortion or engaging in the acts that would lead them to that thought process in the first place.

Do you really believe that these women believe they are aborting a baby? They’ve been told by the abortion clinic staff, their husband, boyfriend, girlfriend, and friends that it is nothing more then a clumb of cells.

If they really believed or knew that in the first place abortion would be unthinkable!

I want to share with you part of my DVD talk I’m finishing putting together:

youtube.com/watch?v=srXX-U-si0I

youtube.com/watch?v=Iwd8w1qq9EE

These 2 10 minute parts challenge your view Ed. If you have any evidence that this challenge is wrong please let me know, you’d be the first in the world to be able to refute this proven historical argument for the use of graphic images to fight abortion.

Someone who viewed my entire video who posted in that thread stated this:

I just finished watching. The video is very well done. Even though I have felt that graphic pictures have a place in the pro-life movement (I have given graphic brochures to abortion-minded women who have come into our CPC), I was on the fence about public displays (but only to protect young children). This video has convinced me otherwise. If one baby is saved ( and many already have been) because of this, it is worth any explaining I would have to give my very young grandson who also might see these. I especially support the campus displays. It’s unfortunate that the shocking reality of abortion is needed to be seen but too many have already died. It’s got to stop. Keep up the good work.

So the decision needs to be made, will we use the tools that will make women not abort or not use them because they might upset some people?
 
Dear Ed,

Thank you for your post.

However this is the same thinking in the prolife movement that has occured over the last 35 years trying to end abortion, we have failed because of that.

You are right, a decision needs to be made. You and others need to decide whether or not you care more about the feelings of born people who might get upset from looking at abortion photos or the lives of babies being aborted. You can’t have it both ways.

You mentioned getting involved against abortion properly. There is historical evidence that says that happy photos or photos of our Virgin Mary save lives from other atrocities.

Project Rachel workers adamently support the use of graphic images of abortion because they talk to women who decided not to murder their unborn baby because of them.

I agree with you on the need for compassion for these women. But compassion isn’t hiding the truth, this truth that causes so many women not to abort. If you really care about these women as well you would support what will convince them not to abort their child.

Although photos of unborn babies that aren’t graphic do help the prolife movement by showing the humanity of the unborn, those photos do NOT dehumanize abortion. That is why so few women decide not to have abortions from seeing those photos. These women have seen these photos many times or born babies that they could never abort, so they want to have their abortion before it turns into that baby.

If someone was mature in the first place, they would not be having an abortion or engaging in the acts that would lead them to that thought process in the first place.

Do you really believe that these women believe they are aborting a baby? They’ve been told by the abortion clinic staff, their husband, boyfriend, girlfriend, and friends that it is nothing more then a clumb of cells.

If they really believed or knew that in the first place abortion would be unthinkable!

I want to share with you part of my DVD talk I’m finishing putting together:

youtube.com/watch?v=srXX-U-si0I

youtube.com/watch?v=Iwd8w1qq9EE

These 2 10 minute parts challenge your view Ed. If you have any evidence that this challenge is wrong please let me know, you’d be the first in the world to be able to refute this proven historical argument for the use of graphic images to fight abortion.

Someone who viewed my entire video who posted in that thread stated this:

I just finished watching. The video is very well done. Even though I have felt that graphic pictures have a place in the pro-life movement (I have given graphic brochures to abortion-minded women who have come into our CPC), I was on the fence about public displays (but only to protect young children). This video has convinced me otherwise. If one baby is saved ( and many already have been) because of this, it is worth any explaining I would have to give my very young grandson who also might see these. I especially support the campus displays. It’s unfortunate that the shocking reality of abortion is needed to be seen but too many have already died. It’s got to stop. Keep up the good work.

So the decision needs to be made, will we use the tools that will make women not abort or not use them because they might upset some people?
If I remember correctly, this discussion was started due to a photo of two people holding up signs of aborted babies on the side of the highway. Some of us feel this is inappropriate in that particular circumstance.

Why this has turned into a debate on the value of those photos in ** every ** circumstance is beyond me.

Isn’t there some middle ground here? Yes, those photos are useful tools and I agree that they are instrumental in changing minds, but I think we’re being a bit black and white here. My concern, and the concern of several others on this thread, is that open, public displays of the photos may not be appropriate in certain circumstances.

We’re not dismissing the utility of the photos outright.

PS God bless Project Rachel.
 
Children are not stupid, and I say the earlier the better, it will make a deeper impression. My parents were very straightfoward with me as a child. If an issue came up, they addressed it with the truth. They also brought things up (abortion) before I ever saw a picture. This generation is very visual, and it’s difficult for many to get a picture in their minds without a picture. I don’t see what’s wrong with a child seeing the results of an abortion, especially as a Catholic. Children are taught that Jesus loved us so much that He allowed Himself to be mocked, scourged raw, crowned, and crucified because of our sins. I assume that of all who’ve replied to this thread have explained this to their children. How’s abortion different?

The main reason I say the earlier the better is because children are not becoming promiscuous in their high school/college years, it’s in middle and elementary school. The pro-choice mentality is being taught in schools, earlier. We adults need to get with the modern age: everything is happening sooner and faster. You don’t want their peers getting to them first.
 
I’m not sure if you watched the 2 videos I posted above. If you had you would realize that countless women have testified that the photos in public were the ONLY reason that convinced them not to abort their unborn child.

The only middle ground is for abortion to end. These photos are the most useful tools ever used in saving lives and changing mines.

If you will read the following you will see how similar thinking that perhaps the public venue isn’t the right place was addressed long before I was alive about a very similar issue. People of good will didn’t want to rock the boat or upset people either:

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote his Letter from Birmingham Jail in response to clergymen who were critical of his approach to fighting segregation. In it he said the following:

“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s greatest stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the Ku Klux Klan member, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’

Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. But when the injustice of it was brought before the TV cameras of America as our black brothers and sisters were attacked with dogs, hoses, and other forms of violence, people saw the evil that words alone could not convey.

“…we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.”

If the civil rights movement had gone the way of the abortion debate we would still have segregation in bathrooms, restaurants, schools, and everywhere else in this country. The term abortion has lost almost all of its meaning in this country, people will most often think of choice and reproductive freedom rather than the horrific reality of abortion.

Abortion supporters will celebrate a woman’s choice to do whatever she wants with her body, they certainly don’t want others to see what that choice does to the body of an unborn baby.

Feelings against these graphic signs aren’t enough. You need to provide evidence for making the bold claim that these images do more harm then good, especially in light of the evidence of changed minds, babies saved, and men and women brought to repentance all as a result of graphic images. And whatever evidence you have, it should be weighed against the following information:
 
I am 9 weeks and 3 days pregnant. Several people were telling me to have an abortion. I will NOT have an abortion; instead I will give a life to this world. Thank you so much!
Age 22, Dallas, Texas

I’m a 22 year old Spanish girl. I got pregnant by my ex. He wants me to get an abortion and he says that he is not going to be responsible for my child. I was thinking on it because I’m in college and I don’t have anything done yet, but I was looking at the pictures and this is horrible. I don’t know how people can easily kill like this. I’m going to keep my baby; I know we are going to be happy.
Edison, NJ

I’m 2 months pregnant and had a scheduled appointment to have [an abortion] this Saturday, but there is no way I’m doing it now…thank you so much for saving a precious life. Now I greatly oppose legal abortion…thank you so much!!!
Age 28

I am pregnant now and now I know what decision to make. I am supposed to go tomorrow and get an abortion at Planned Parenthood [but now] I’m not going.
Age 21 in NY, Oct. 8, 2003

I am five weeks pregnant and have decided to keep my baby, however, this was not the case when I first discovered my pregnancy. I was going to get an abortion because I have done so in the past, but after seeing the pictures, it has solidified my decision. Please, dear God, forgive me.
Feb. 24, 2004

At first I thought this web site was sick until I started reading everything. I am glad I found this web site because I think I may be pregnant and I was considering having an abortion because I have a son that will be 3 soon and me and my boyfriend are still living in my moms house… Just to think I was going to have a aborton when I found out I was pregnat with my son… I want to thank you guys for having these web sites you are changing the lives of alot of peaple thank you so very very much.
Age 19, Bronx, NY, Oct 4, 2005

It wasn’t easy to make a decision in the first place due to my circumstances in my pregnancy, but now [your website] has made my mind up fully.
Age 21, Leicester, England, January 11, 2006

This website changed my mind. I’m having my baby
Age 33, Sheffield, England, Jan 20, 2006

I’m a 22 yr old single mom of two girls. I’m pregnant again and the father has already left. I was considering abortion just so I could make it go away, I guess. The pictures in the web site look no different than my two little ones, except they’re smaller. I can’t do it.
Age 22, Mobile, Alabama, Jan 25, 2006
I have always been against abortion. Recently I became pregnant. I am terrified as to what this means for my family financially. I decided that abortion would be the best option for my family at this time. Then I looked at this site. It has changed my mind and made me very ashamed for ever considering murder as one of my choices. I would NEVER do this to my child!
Age 30, Denver, CO, Feb 6, 2006

“I recently found out that a young lady I know is pregnant. She had made up her mind to have an abortion the same week that The Genocide Awareness Project was visiting campus. One day when she was leaving her job, what does she see right smack in front of the building she works in… It was none other than the G.A.P. display. She decided to take a look at the pictures and talk with the volunteers. That day she decided not to have an abortion.”
–K.W.; Ohio State University, Student

“Two weeks after you left the University of Tennessee, a total of twenty-six girls have come into our office to have a pregnancy test. Of the twenty-six, we are sure that five of the girls were pro-abortion and changed their minds as a result of your display. They were fussing about the vivid pictures, but admitted that these pictures had changed their minds about abortion. Three other girls were undecided about what their decision would be until we offered our alternative. All three are pregnant and will parent their babies. Fifteen of the twenty-six clients who tested positive are in weekly counseling sessions with us. All of the positive tests have return appointments.”
–Pat Job; Pregnancy Support Center (Knoxville, TN)

“I wanted to let you know that we had a client come to us 3/27/98 for a pregnancy test. Her test was positive and she was leaning toward aborting her child because she was afraid pregnancy would destroy the relationship she had with the baby’s father. On 4/14/98 when we called to check on her she said she had decided to carry her child. Many months later she told me that she had seen the GAP display on campus during the time she was deciding whether or not to carry her child. She said the pictures had a profound impact on her. She received cooperation from faculty to accelerate classes and her baby boy was born in December.”
–Carol Phillips; Director: Centre Region Crisis Pregnancy Center (State College, PA)
 
Children are not stupid, and I say the earlier the better, it will make a deeper impression. My parents were very straightfoward with me as a child. If an issue came up, they addressed it with the truth. They also brought things up (abortion) before I ever saw a picture. This generation is very visual, and it’s difficult for many to get a picture in their minds without a picture. I don’t see what’s wrong with a child seeing the results of an abortion, especially as a Catholic. Children are taught that Jesus loved us so much that He allowed Himself to be mocked, scourged raw, crowned, and crucified because of our sins. I assume that of all who’ve replied to this thread have explained this to their children. How’s abortion different?

The main reason I say the earlier the better is because children are not becoming promiscuous in their high school/college years, it’s in middle and elementary school. The pro-choice mentality is being taught in schools, earlier. We adults need to get with the modern age: everything is happening sooner and faster. You don’t want their peers getting to them first.
There are plenty of studies that show children raised on farms are less likely to have allergies, asthma, and low immune systems – because their immune systems are exposed to the environment at a much earlier age than city children.

Similarly, if we don’t strengthen a child’s moral immune system with exposure to the evils of the world at an early age, it may be too late to do it later.
 
There are plenty of studies that show children raised on farms are less likely to have allergies, asthma, and low immune systems – because their immune systems are exposed to the environment at a much earlier age than city children.

Similarly, if we don’t strengthen a child’s moral immune system with exposure to the evils of the world at an early age, it may be too late to do it later.
Amen!
 
As a person who was moved by the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., and who lived through the Detroit riot in 1967, I am aware of what you are talking about.

Do not allow the world to tell you that because we now live in the 21st Century that man has become somehow modern. That is false. There is no evidence that peace, enlightenment and knowledge poured into everyone’s head the moment the calendar changed from the 20th to the 21st Century.

In the 1960s there was injustice. In the 21st Century there is injustice. In Detroit, blacks and whites are more segregated than ever and there are no signs telling them to go through this door or use this fountain or any other such thing.

In the 1960s, there was greater respect for authority from the Federal government on down to little children. Over the last 30 years, I have watched authority at all levels corrupted. I’ve seen little boys proposition teenage girls.

The secular world celebrates the work of a peacemaker like Martin Luther King but rarely mentions that he was a minister or that he wrote that Jesus was in that jail cell with him.

It is time for families to become sources of God’s wisdom again. It is time for parents to raise their children again. It is time for this entire country to get back on our kness. Recently, a photo was published in a weekly national magazine showing a man walking in Washington DC with a sign that read: “America! Get off your knees!”

When college professors tell their students “you were never a clump of cells.” When “comedians” stand up and mock Christians for “believing” a tiny clump of cells is human. When the entire media of this country in movies, television, books and magazines are constantly telling everyone to have sex anytime, anywhere and with anyone, there is a crisis but it was not caused by God-fearing people who ignored the world and stayed with the Lord.

Show your pictures to the young women on their way to have an abortion. But understand that there is a 24 hour evil being perpetrated in high places every day. These people know they are selling lies. Tell everyone that as well.

Just as the Lord told them, “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.” Ezekial 36:26

God bless,
Ed
 
My question is…have these types of pics, and picketing, helped against abortion? Anyone have any stats? Even vague stats?
 
Whatever girl,

Great question. I’ve been working very hard the last week on a prolife movie. The beta version is on my youtube site… the 2 10 minute clips I want you to watch are located below. They answer your question from two angles, women who decided not to have an abortion because of the photos and nothing else… and women who had abortions who want us to continue showing them and told us that if we had shown them before their abortion, their babies would be alive today. I have 3 personal saves using these photos… 2 minutes before death at the St. Louis Planned Parenthood and another at a high school in South Dakota.

youtube.com/watch?v=c89XKq83U50
“Women who had abortions quotes… background audio is angry apathetic people on abortion who are upset on the pictures”

youtube.com/watch?v=srXX-U-si0I
Babies saved…

These quotes are just a small number of known successes, just watch the video and let me know what you think… the quotes are a few minutes into the parts.
 
Pictures like that are so disgusting that I don’t want to be associated with those who call themselves pro-life.

It’s quite an accomplishment to alienate those who are on your side.
But if they save lives. I don’t mind you not associating your self with me. A loss of association of some is worth it.
 
SuscipeMeDomin,

You aren’t prolife as much as you are profeelings. You are no different with your remarks then the good people who did nothing when the Germans took away those who were exterminated or the people in this country who stayed away from blacks being beaten nearly to death by police with dogs and hoses. You are not so much supporting the prolife cause as you are the prochoice message because those people lose everytime when these photos are used, they can’t defend “Choice.” Your aversion to a photo that might upset or be sick to some but saves many many lives calls into question your willingness to save lives. I’m not afraid to point this out because it must be known that those who don’t stand with us stand against the truth and saving babies because of feelings against the most powerful means of saving babies from abortion.

Perhaps it is easy for those of us who have never been aborted to say graphic abortion photos should not be shown. Perhaps it is easy when you are not the one being dismissed as a “blob of tissue” and disdainfully viewed as a “clump of cells”; it is easy when you are not subjected to dismemberment, disembowelment, and decapitation; it is easy when you aren’t the one to endure poisoning by saline that will burn your skin; it is easy when potassium chloride isn’t injected into your heart to murder you.
But when you imagine that baby being attacked but unable to escape; when you comprehend a baby being in a safe place only to have it invaded by a stranger who will kill her; when that baby cannot defend herself; when you catch a glimpse of her body parts being ripped off piece by piece; when you realize that what you know about this baby’s plight, most people do not—then you will understand why we use pictures.
 
Opinions are valuable. Debates are valuable. But in the end, a decision needs to be made.

For those who want to get properly involved in working against abortion, I suggest they contact their local parish or diocese. You could also google “Project Rachel.”

My experience in front of an abortion clinic occurred when I was driving by one day. I told myself that if these people were not showing compassion for the young women going inside I would not stand with them. They were and I did. We had a sign with an image of the Blessed Virgin, another showing a baby in the womb (it appeared to be the same or similar to a photo published on the cover of Life or Look in the 1960s). One of the girls witnessing had an abortion at the clinic we were in front of, but later gave her life to Christ.

We prayed, handed out literature and talked to anyone who would listen.

I am not for censorship and I am for education. Such graphic images need to shown to mature individuals who have been led to believe that the “baby” is a fetus or blastocyst or clump of cells or embryo or anything other than a human being. Everyone reading this began life as an embryo, a unique human being.

This is science not belief. There are specialists called Embryologists. Why other people seem to think this is only a belief and not a scientifically proven fact is beyond me.

God bless,
Ed
We use the graphic signs occassionally and religious signs most of the time. We mix it up. I wouldn’t fault someone for always going with the graphic maybe they would fault us for not always having the graphic out there. You never know how God is going to touch someone. Both represent the truth and both need to be shown.
 
Originally Posted by SuscipeMeDomine
Pictures like that are so disgusting that I don’t want to be associated with those who call themselves pro-life.
It’s quite an accomplishment to alienate those who are on your side.
But if they save lives. I don’t mind you not associating your self with me. A loss of association of some is worth it.
Amazing! The anger and disgust is not directed at the people who killed those children – instead those who show the evidence of those grisly crimes are blamed!!:eek:
 
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