Chrismation

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rciadan said:
This is not the case. We are fully aware and as I stated in my OP, we must wait for a period and then we can take the next step toward formally changing Rites.
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Lord have mercy! There is little doubt that Fr. Michael will guide you properly.
rciadan said:
I still think it is awesome that my 12 yr old has embraced the Byzantine rite: that* she* chose to be chrismated in this rite: that she feels at home: that she has taken the time and effort to understand the similarities and differences between the two, Latin and Byzantine.
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Amen!
rciadan said:
This is not about the legalistic issues of formalities but about the issues of a love for and desire to be part of…exhibited by a 12 yr old…
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Amen!
rciadan said:
The formalities will follow, in time
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Amen!
 
lssanjose said:
Technically, this is correct. Based on what my friend was explaining, to me, regarding OCA, ROCOR, etc., It doesn’t appear there’s a western rite he could have gone to. Also, from what I’ve listened to, on Ancient Faith Radio, many Protestants turned to Eastern Orthodoxy. In my friend’s case, he was baptized Evangelical, but was then reconfirmed as Russian Orthodox.
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See post #20.
 
lssanjose said:
Technically, this is correct. Based on what my friend was explaining, to me, regarding OCA, ROCOR, etc., It doesn’t appear there’s a western rite he could have gone to. Also, from what I’ve listened to, on Ancient Faith Radio, many Protestants turned to Eastern Orthodoxy. In my friend’s case, he was baptized Evangelical, but was then reconfirmed as Russian Orthodox.
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Vico said:
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CIC Latin Canon Law
CCEO Eastern Canon law

In addition, the eastern presbyter can validly give Chrismation (CCEO 696.1) to Latin faithful and this is also licit when given permission from the Latin Church (CCEO 696.3) and when the Latin Bishop approves it (CIC 882) and the faithful being Chrismated is of the age of reason (CIC 891) and already baptised (CIC 879) but not confirmed (CIC 889) and can be done not in conjunction with baptism (CCEO 694) and the the eastern presbyter must notify the parish of baptism that is has occurred (CCEO 695).
 
5Loaves said:
The post you quote from me wasn’t to you. 🙂 As I said in my “congratulations” post to you, Fr Sopoliga is awesome. I’m sure all was made clear to everyone concerned in your case.
rciadan;9669654:
This is not the case. We are fully aware and as I stated in my OP, we must wait for a period and then we can take the next step toward formally changing Rites. I still think it is awesome that my 12 yr old has embraced the Byzantine rite: that* she*
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chose to be chrismated in this rite: that she feels at home: that she has taken the time and effort to understand the similarities and differences between the two, Latin and Byzantine. This is not about the legalistic issues of formalities but about the issues of a love for and desire to be part of…exhibited by a 12 yr old…
The formalities will follow, in time
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I’m sorry that you continue to think I am addressing you when I am not.🙂 As I said, I’m sure being in Fr Sopoliga’s capable hands everything has been clear. And I congratulate you. I don’t exactly know why you still think the rest of my posting was addressed to you. * Again, I was not responding to your situation*, apart from the congratulations and that you have an awesome priest. 🙂
 
5Loaves said:
I’m sorry that you continue to think I am addressing you when I am not.🙂 As I said, I’m sure being in Fr Sopoliga’s capable hands everything has been clear. And I congratulate you. I don’t exactly know why you still think the rest of my posting was addressed to you. * Again, I was not responding to your situation*, apart from the congratulations and that you have an awesome priest. 🙂
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Peace and goodwill to you. I know from your many posts that you are not one to be uncivil or unkind. I have learned from you in the past and expect to learn more from you in the future. Many blessed years…
 
If the person is validly baptised in a Christian church of any denomination, other than the Orthodox (Eastern, Oriental, or Assyrian) then they go to the Latin Church.
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Actually even then they can choose to become Eastern and are not forced to be Latin. There is no “rite of ascription” with Protestants as with someone who has received Latin baptism. This is often misinterpreted and often not realistic. One exception I can see is if one is Episcopalian wishing to join an Anglican usage parish which would be a "true’ Western parallel church.

Also please remember that the* Comparative Sacramental Discipline in the CCEO* is only a guidebook and are neither the Canons themselves or even specific adjudicatory directives. The discussion of “parallel” Orthodox jurisdictions are very general, oversimplified and are not definitive. Basically any Orthodox can join whatever Greek Catholic parish they wish, usually based on location and parish preference.

Quoting canons is simple; adjuticating is something entirely different and solely within the authority of the hierarchs involved (who can dispense from the law if they see so fit).
 
Diak said:
Quoting canons is simple; adjuticating is something entirely different and solely within the authority of the hierarchs involved (who can dispense from the law if they see so fit).
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Thank you. 🙂 The operative word for me is “hierarchs”. Our problems come when parish priests don’t involve the hierarch and simply decide they did the sacrament, theirs is an EC parish, therefore this person is now an Eastern Catholic, fait accompli.

(Again, I’m not referring to our OP’s situation. :))
 
5Loaves said:
Thank you. 🙂 The operative word for me is “hierarchs”. Our problems come when parish priests don’t involve the hierarch and simply decide they did the sacrament, theirs is an EC parish, therefore this person is now an Eastern Catholic, fait accompli.

(Again, I’m not referring to our OP’s situation. :))
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Otherwise some sacraments given are valid but illicit, and some can be invalid (matrimony for example). In our parish the priest is very careful to get all the aprovals for change of ritual church ahead of the event, and there have been many, I can think of 10 off hand, the majority are protestant conversions.
 
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