I didn't say I see Christ in their religion. I said we are to see Christ in the faces of all we encounter. To love them as Christ loves them... For He did indeed lay down His life for ALL of us, including THEM, even if they have not accepted His gift.The way I see it in context of all of your postings, you are outside of Orthodox Roman Catholicism. Actually, Orthodox Roman Catholicism is a great thing, as compared to liberal Christianity… no matter where it is comming from. I only speak the truth in love, because you are either in Christ or you are not. Here is the telling question, do the Muslims have the Spirit of Christ in them based on what they proclaim and teach?
Why are you so opposed to seeing Christ in others?
Do you see Christ in Hindus, Muslims, Buddist, Mormons, JW, athesist and agnostics?
That passage shows exactly my viewpoint on sharing the light of Christ with others
Your definition and my definition of “being saved through Him” and “but whoever does what is true comes to the light so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God” seems to vary.
Yes, I try to see Christ in all whom I encounter, no matter what they believe. We are called to do nothing less.Here is what you are saying in context of all of your postings. People have the Spirit of Christ in them regardless if they believe in Christ, reject Christ, or are Christians. Go back to your postings. We are to love others by sharing Christ with them, and to treat them with the love God has shown us. It has nothing to do with speaking the truth in love to those who do not believe in the biblical Jesus Christ. I am going to assume you are so far on the left from Orthodox Roman Catholicism unless others on this site tell me otherwise. Did you belong to a liberal church or a new age group before in your life?That passage shows exactly my viewpoint on sharing the light of Christ with others
Do you think God does not love the unbeliever?Code:Yes, I try to see Christ in all whom I encounter, no matter what they believe. We are called to do nothing less.
You assume too much. Do you propose that you, underdog, can tell when and in whom the spirit of Christ dwells?
I don’t think predestination has anything to do with the need for Jesus Christ. If you want to discuss predestination as an in-house debate between Chrisitans, please start another thread and I will join you. In-house means within Christianity only. Of course Old Testatment saints were saved by grace through faith based on the future work of Jesus Christ. JOB declared that His redeemer lives. The New Testament speaks about the great OT Saints (Hebrews 11), and Paul uses Abraham the man of faith as central in his theology.
You are so off from biblical truth, that you don’t even know it. I do not judge any Christian who professes Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior if the do have the Spirit of Christ. I know those who do not profess Jesus Christ do not have the Spirit of Christ. Do you believe everyone is born with the Spirit dwelling in them and looses the Spirit of Christ later in life? This is a Mormon concept and a new age concept. The Bible teaches us that we receive the Spirit of Christ when we hear the good news and receive it. When do you think someone receives the Spirit of Christ?You assume too much. Do you propose that you, underdog, can tell when and in whom the spirit of Christ dwells?
You also presume to know MY heart. I see Christ in others, because we are all created in God’s image. Not just Christians but all of us. I cannot convert anyone, I may only share the love of Christ, and let the Holy Spirit work in their lives.
You also must remember… that none of us are “saved” until we get to heaven.
You are the one claiming that I believe we are born with the spirit of Christ, not me.
when one is baptised they reiceve the spirit of Christ.
Please help me understand your views. You say you see Christ in those who are not Christians (orthodox sense). So, you can see Christ in them without having the Spirit of Christ in them? Did you know unbelievers are called children of wrath, children of disobdience, children of darkness, God’s enemies, enmity with God, object of His wrath, wicked, dark, children of the devil, etc. All Christians were once children of darkness until God moved us from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of His beloved Son. Christians went from darkness to light, or from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light. For those who are in the flesh cannot please God (rom 8). That’s biblical theology and not theology based on personal opinion and personal feelings. There is a difference between divine revelation and personal feelings.
Are we called to share the love and life of Christ? Or are we called to share the wrath of God?thank you for stating orthodox Christianity. I know we may understand baptism differently, but I can agree with your posting in my understanding of Romans 6.
How can you share the good news without first sharing the bad news? Do you understand that Romans chapter 1 and 2 and parts of 3 is terrible universal bad news about the wrath of God, the comming day of judgement where all must give an account? After Paul expounds the terrible damnable universal bad news, Paul shares the great good news of Jesus Christ and Him crucified to rescue sinners from the wrath of God. If you don’t understand the bad news sister, you really don’t understand the love and life of Jesus Christ.
Sure it does. If those who do not hear the Gospel are damned, then the only reasonable conclusion is that God did not predestine them for salvation. Otherwise you have a God who doesn’t care *and *is lacking in power–a God who is neither loving nor omnipotent.
just who is The Son of Man then…