Christianity and Political Correctness

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PC is the bane of intelligent discussions. It’s nothing more than a tool of post-modernists and tumblrites to advance their fictitious First World Problems, all the while ignoring the Real World problems of girls in Afghanistan who get their heads blown off for going to school.

As for the AD/BC thing, I think it is mostly an Anglophone phenomenon. My impression from other scholars who don’t write in English is that they think such usage is silly since it is still the same numbering system. If someone wanted a truly secular calendar, they would base it off of the last ice age.
 
sallybutler said:
As far as I can tell those who uphold being against political correctness are those who don’t believe in being polite. Of course, that may be because I was taught by someone was born in 1932 and trained by nuns who had no patience with rudeness (some of whom were her aunts and cut her no slack).

We have become a nation of extremely rude people who think everyone must believe exactly like we do just because we say so. We no longer believe that example is good enough.You must believe because I said so.

And we wonder why people don’t believe.
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Should us non-PC-lovin’ folk change because you said so? 🤷
 
I generally try to avoid partisan politics but I feel there’s a lot of statements made by people that can harmful and malicious. Some of these statements then are repeated and broadcast in the media whether social media or news media.

If you recall there were labels used even at the time of the ministry of Jesus… Why do you suppose Jesus told the parable of the “Good Samaritan” because Samaritans were looked down upon. Or the woman caught in adultery that was to be stoned. He also associated we are told with Publicans and tax collectors.

How about the phrase:

“*Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?”
*

and
  • “God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.”*
 
I’m basically easy with other people’s phrases as long as they aren’t inaccurate on any matter that impacts me and those I care for.

I don’t see why they should finnick with my phrases if mine are accurate, tactful and polite.
From some of the less sincere of them there seems to be a purpose of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Bookworm and Sallybutler, you are in agreement with us. Perhaps you haven’t seen it being sometimes used as a weapon or seen the goalposts be moved.

It’s been done since the year dot by those that want to show someone in no uncertain terms they are part of the “out” group.

That’s the only thing that ought to worry us. Apart from that, phrases come and go. We certainly should not counter-finnick. A lot of the time, people with no axe to grind are just copying other people with no axe to grind, and maybe not that inaccurately either. Personally I don’t see what’s so tragically, heinously, bitterly wrong with a word like “disabled” for instance but don’t mind me.

Synonyms and a wide vocabulary are fine. Allude right, and don’t allude wrong.
 
Songcatcher said:
… “I got sent to sensitivity training for calling the queer in the mail room a fa**ot” …
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:extrahappy:

I never knew what colleagues were queer because they didn’t impact me, in the mail room or elsewhere!

I like a phrase my old boss picked up from her daughter, “This affects me how?” 😉
 
For clarity: they didn’t impact me in their capacity as queers.
 
Up until the last decade or so, British television never had a problem regarding PC.
In the last year the classic British sitcom Fawlty Towers (that’s right, the John Cleese comedy even people who do not watch British Comedy know) has been removed from the BBC for being ‘racist’. I can only imagine the other britcoms that will follow: Allo Allo for ethnic humor, Are You Being Served for John Inman’s portrayal of what is supposed to be a gay character. Monty Python for the famous ‘Lumberjack’ song. Benny Hill has already been banned.
Fascism has no sense of humor.
 
Sometimes I wonder whether ‘political correctness’ is thought of as being the term for when you’re not allowed to express your own lack of charity, while ‘bigotry’ is the term for others showing their lack of charity to you.
 
I hate political correctness.

It’s not about good manners (or lack there of), but stifling opinions and lifestyles that aren’t popular among Liberals and elitists.

A lot of people feel like they can’t talk about their values these days because they’ve seen what happened to the guy who used to run Mozilla - who was forced to leave his job just because he gave a political donation to a pro-family, anti-gay marriage group.

They’d rather shut up and go along with the crowd than lose their jobs and community standing.

And it’s just nuts that college kids routinely try to get their universities to “dis-invite” conservative speakers because of their opposing ideology. And if they can’t get the guest “dis-invited” they try to shout down and mob them. Google Ben Shaprio.

It’s really just sad that these kids are offended when someone takes a piece of chalk and writes “Trump 2016”.

I’m seriously wondering at what happened to “sticks and stones can break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”

It’s just a really different mentality than a lot of us grew up with (not so long ago).

Political correctness is destroying America. We have a president who refuses to point out that the extremists blowing people up are Islamic. (No, not all Muslims are terrorists, but at least let’s be honest about who these people are and what their ideology is.)

Not offending people is valued more than telling the truth, unless you are a white working class Christian.

Then people can make fun of you and your values without social pressure to change the behavior.

As a political and religious conservative, I hold my tongue a lot these days on social media because every discussion ends up turning into “you’re a racist, homophobe who also hates women”. Really?

I didn’t realize that supporting limited government and more freedom for everyone makes me a hater. I find that the only group I can have reasonable (limited) conversations with are the libertarians because the Republicans can be just as Statist (and PC) as the Democrats.

And just try telling a Liberal you are offended by something they said…

Oh my…it’s like the world just ended because they can’t imagine anyone disagreeing with them, let alone being offended by them.

Freedom for you, but not for me, isn’t actually freedom.

Conservatives have the expectation that diversity really includes everyone, including all viewpoints, colors, etc…

Liberals have the expectation that diversity is really an extension of affirmative action and Liberal thought. Why would anyone take a political conservative or religious conservative seriously? After all, we’ve rejected those ideas long ago, right? It really is socially acceptable to hate white people and Christianity in some corners. (irony because Liberals are supposed to love diversity right?)

I’ve seen this story play out way too many times to consider my observations just a “coincidence” or a “one time thing”.

The sooner political correctness is banished from our society the better.
 
Kal2012 said:
I hate political correctness.

It’s not about good manners (or lack there of), but stifling opinions and lifestyles that aren’t popular among Liberals and elitists.

A lot of people feel like they can’t talk about their values these days because they’ve seen what happened to the guy who used to run Mozilla - who was forced to leave his job just because he gave a political donation to a pro-family, anti-gay marriage group.

They’d rather shut up and go along with the crowd than lose their jobs and community standing.

And it’s just nuts that college kids routinely try to get their universities to “dis-invite” conservative speakers because of their opposing ideology. And if they can’t get the guest “dis-invited” they try to shout down and mob them. Google Ben Shaprio.

It’s really just sad that these kids are offended when someone takes a piece of chalk and writes “Trump 2016”.

I’m seriously wondering at what happened to “sticks and stones can break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”

It’s just a really different mentality than a lot of us grew up with (not so long ago).

Political correctness is destroying America. We have a president who refuses to point out that the extremists blowing people up are Islamic. (No, not all Muslims are terrorists, but at least let’s be honest about who these people are and what their ideology is.)

Not offending people is valued more than telling the truth, unless you are a white working class Christian.

Then people can make fun of you and your values without social pressure to change the behavior.

As a political and religious conservative, I hold my tongue a lot these days on social media because every discussion ends up turning into “you’re a racist, homophobe who also hates women”. Really?

I didn’t realize that supporting limited government and more freedom for everyone makes me a hater. I find that the only group I can have reasonable (limited) conversations with are the libertarians because the Republicans can be just as Statist (and PC) as the Democrats.

And just try telling a Liberal you are offended by something they said…

Oh my…it’s like the world just ended because they can’t imagine anyone disagreeing with them, let alone being offended by them.

Freedom for you, but not for me, isn’t actually freedom.

Conservatives have the expectation that diversity really includes everyone, including all viewpoints, colors, etc…

Liberals have the expectation that diversity is really an extension of affirmative action and Liberal thought. Why would anyone take a political conservative or religious conservative seriously? After all, we’ve rejected those ideas long ago, right? It really is socially acceptable to hate white people and Christianity in some corners. (irony because Liberals are supposed to love diversity right?)

I’ve seen this story play out way too many times to consider my observations just a “coincidence” or a “one time thing”.

The sooner political correctness is banished from our society the better.
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PC is kinda subjective.

Most Christians will not be PC about weird LGBT stuff etc. We don’t consider that a matter of PC but a matter of logical facts of nature.

On the flip side many Christians expect their version of PC. As many will run away screaming of the persons evils who says F word or tells a dirty joke.

To answer your question about good/bad PC… I think maybe a dash of PC is good, but the extremes of Liberal and Christian PC are absurd and counter to truths and facts.
 
Kaninchen said:
Sometimes I wonder whether ‘political correctness’ is thought of as being the term for when you’re not allowed to express your own lack of charity, while ‘bigotry’ is the term for others showing their lack of charity to you.
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Rhubarb said:
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Or. If you don’t think you live in a society where you can be honest about your feelings. Where you can express yourself freely with true meaning and kindness. And know you’re being understood in a fair and direct way. Then you’re not in a free society. You’re not in a tolerant society. You’re a static character in a great work of fiction.

I’d rather a person was honest in all things so I’d know if they were truly kind. Instead of a word-masking liar just pretending to be ‘nice’.

But that being said there’s truth in what you say. There’s no point being rude or purposefully upsetting. There’s no point being mean for any sake. I just find that fake nice is a different kind of mean. The demeaning kind.

I guess the main thing is I don’t like society leaning hard on people with individual minds. I want the individuals to do that on their own. For their own real reasons. So we’ve got genuine people talking to each other in earnest without these hidden fears they’ll accidentally start a war by saying the wrong word once in a while. And just get publicly shamed for it while their whole message gets ignored instead.

Does that make sense?

Peace Rhubarb.

-Trident
 
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
 
Trident_H said:
I’d rather a person was honest in all things so I’d know if they were truly kind. Instead of a word-masking liar just pretending to be ‘nice’.

But that being said there’s truth in what you say. There’s no point being rude or purposefully upsetting. There’s no point being mean for any sake. I just find that fake nice is a different kind of mean. The demeaning kind.

I guess the main thing is I don’t like society leaning hard on people with individual minds. I want the individuals to do that on their own. For their own real reasons. So we’ve got genuine people talking to each other in earnest without these hidden fears they’ll accidentally start a war by saying the wrong word once in a while. And just get publicly shamed for it while their whole message gets ignored instead.
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Makes sense to me, TridentH. The problem with PC-ness is that even if it succeeds in shutting people up, it doesn’t actually change people’s hearts and minds. However, it’s also true that some use “I’m just being honest” as an excuse for just being mean and insulting. And actually try to excuse away real bigotry.
 
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