Christmas Day, Novus Ordo Style

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Wow, that’s not much like my parish’s Christmas Mass at Midnight.

Let’s see…before the Mass started, Father and the choir sang “O Holy Night” from the choral balcony in the back of the church. The lights were low, so the lights around the Christmas decorations and the altar candles were the only thing illuminating the sanctuary (yes, sanctuary, not “worship space”). There were new hand-sewn gold colored cloths adorning the tabernacle (which has pride-of-place in the center behind the altar), the altar and the shelves behind the altar (akin in appaerance to a high altar but not an actual altar).

The lights came up and the servers, deacon and priest processed in. Father carried the baby Jesus up and placed him in the Nativity which right in front of the ambo next to the side altar of the Sacred Heart.

Yes, before Mass, Father reminded everyone to turn off cell phones and pagers and warned that there would be 5,000 extra years of purgatory to anyone whose cell phone or pager went off during this most holy mass. 🙂

Lots and lots of incense was featured in this mass and there appeared to be a new thurible in use at this mass.

We prayed the Confiteor, chanted the Kyrie in latin and, yes, we did use the antiphonal Gloria with the Gloria in excelsis Deo as the refrain. The readings and psalm were all proper. Father’s homily was fiery and catechetical. We knelt during the creed at the appropriate point (and for the rest thereafter).

Again, lots of incense during the offertory. Father used the Roman Canon (Eucharistic Prayer I) with the Communicantes for Christmas. The Sanctus was in latin (as per usual) and the Memorial Acclimation was “Lord, by Your cross and resurrection…”

Father recently became aware of hand-holding and orans during the Our Father (he usually keeps his eyes closed during the Our Father and opened his eyes one day and saw this…I remember the purplexed look on his face) and made a point of mentioning that this is not appropriate. It’s amazing how only a few people were doing that this time.

Agnus Dei was, as always chanted in Latin. Before Communion, Father gave a stern warning about who can and cannot go to communion. Communion was distributed under both kinds in metal chalices that were placed on the atlar already poured as wine (before the consecration).

After Communion, we prayed the prayer to St. Michael and the choir sung Silent Night in English, Spanish and Tagalog. We received the blessing and were dismissed. Joy to the World was sung at the recessional as well as a Filipino Christmas song. Afterward, I had to go back into the church because I left my Bible (yeah, imagine that, someone bringing a Bible to Mass! LOL) and saw that there were people still in the sanctuary honoring the baby Jesus. I, too, took a moment to adore our Lord and to thank Him for coming to us.

Hmm…aside fom the addition of the St. Michael prayer, I don’t think anything was done in this mass that is outside the rubrics.
 
We sang “Go Tell It On The Mountain” also but during the Carol performance before Mass. I even winced then but what the heck it was better than my old parish.
 
We did about 20 minutes of Christmas carols and songs by the choir before Mass. The Mass itself is always done nicely at our church. We did sing that Christmas Gloria to Angels We Have Heard, as we do every year. The congregation knows most of it and can easily participate. The psalm was Today Our Savior Is Born. Yes, there was a creed. The celebrant had hip replacement and is in his 80s, he doesn’t genuflect or kneel but most everyone else does. I can’t do either because of major knee issues (dancers ruin their knees and then I fell anyway). As the choir went to Communion, one soloist sang Oh Holy Night, very beautifully. Then we sang Silent Night, but not the traditional one…a different melody. This is an every year thing too, and the folks really love it. We had two priests, two deacons and some servers on the altar. Not great attendance because more people go to the 5pm vigil Mass. The kids from the school and PSR have a pageant, so most families go to that one. The sermon was kind of hard to follow. A lot of it was a repeat of the morning, and this priest is pretty old. Well, he’s really old. Maybe he just got confused. But the Mass itself was beautiful, as it is every Sunday.
 
Funny, I thought when I saw the thread title “Christmas Day, Novus Ordo Style”, I thought that I would be hearing the most authentic example of the current Ordo Missae for Christmas, namely, that lovely Mass offered at St. Peter’s Basilica by Pope Benedict XVI last night. It was simply breathtaking. (A little crowded, but gorgeous nonetheless. 🙂 )

People, can we please not whine about small potatoes on Christmas Day and turn this into a “the TLM is just so incredibly superior to the current rite” thread. Not to make light of the ad-libbed parts of the Eucharistic Prayer or the non-Psalm Responsorial Psalm, or the use of a secular greeting. These should be stopped. As for the cantor business, she was just trying to be kind and friendly; don’t worry about this; she did not commit an abuse.

Merry Christmas!!!
For the record, when I started this thread, it did not include that “Novus Ordo Style” in the title. That was put in by the Moderator when the thread was moved. I don’t why the change.:confused:
 
For the record, when I started this thread, it did not include that “Novus Ordo Style” in the title. That was put in by the Moderator when the thread was moved. I don’t why the change.:confused:
The mod combined threads.
 
Blessed Christmas!

DH insisted we take the chance, and the girls behaved admirably during Midnight Mass- NO, reverent, preceded by carols from the schola; no oddities from Father regarding obscure pseudo-philosophers, NASCAR, tai kwando, or “hero” Catholics from the 60s with irregular marriages. First verse of “Adeste Fidelis” in Latin, first verse of “Stille Nacht” auf Deutsch. Nobody torched by the candles passed to the congregants. Six senior altar boys who all behaved beautfiully, even the one who tends to still have a bit of imp in him.
 
Just for the interest and amusement of all…

My community’s Lutheran parish recently hired me to accompany their choir. I accepted the job, and I had to play for them on Christmas. Their service was more in-line with Catholic liturgical norms than the Mass Alex described.

My own parish was outstanding on Christmas Day. When it comes to liturgical matters, I don’t always have the highest regard for my pastor, but everything was done properly and without abuse. Most impressive.
 
Wow, that’s not much like my parish’s Christmas Mass at Midnight.

Let’s see…before the Mass started, Father and the choir sang “O Holy Night” from the choral balcony in the back of the church. The lights were low, so the lights around the Christmas decorations and the altar candles were the only thing illuminating the sanctuary (yes, sanctuary, not “worship space”). There were new hand-sewn gold colored cloths adorning the tabernacle (which has pride-of-place in the center behind the altar), the altar and the shelves behind the altar (akin in appaerance to a high altar but not an actual altar).

The lights came up and the servers, deacon and priest processed in. Father carried the baby Jesus up and placed him in the Nativity which right in front of the ambo next to the side altar of the Sacred Heart.

Yes, before Mass, Father reminded everyone to turn off cell phones and pagers and warned that there would be 5,000 extra years of purgatory to anyone whose cell phone or pager went off during this most holy mass. 🙂

Lots and lots of incense was featured in this mass and there appeared to be a new thurible in use at this mass.

We prayed the Confiteor, chanted the Kyrie in latin and, yes, we did use the antiphonal Gloria with the Gloria in excelsis Deo as the refrain. The readings and psalm were all proper. Father’s homily was fiery and catechetical. We knelt during the creed at the appropriate point (and for the rest thereafter).

Again, lots of incense during the offertory. Father used the Roman Canon (Eucharistic Prayer I) with the Communicantes for Christmas. The Sanctus was in latin (as per usual) and the Memorial Acclimation was “Lord, by Your cross and resurrection…”

Father recently became aware of hand-holding and orans during the Our Father (he usually keeps his eyes closed during the Our Father and opened his eyes one day and saw this…I remember the purplexed look on his face) and made a point of mentioning that this is not appropriate. It’s amazing how only a few people were doing that this time.

Agnus Dei was, as always chanted in Latin. Before Communion, Father gave a stern warning about who can and cannot go to communion. Communion was distributed under both kinds in metal chalices that were placed on the atlar already poured as wine (before the consecration).

After Communion, we prayed the prayer to St. Michael and the choir sung Silent Night in English, Spanish and Tagalog. We received the blessing and were dismissed. Joy to the World was sung at the recessional as well as a Filipino Christmas song. Afterward, I had to go back into the church because I left my Bible (yeah, imagine that, someone bringing a Bible to Mass! LOL) and saw that there were people still in the sanctuary honoring the baby Jesus. I, too, took a moment to adore our Lord and to thank Him for coming to us.

Hmm…aside fom the addition of the St. Michael prayer, I don’t think anything was done in this mass that is outside the rubrics.
What parish is this?
 
My community’s Lutheran parish recently hired me to accompany their choir. I accepted the job, and I had to play for them on Christmas. Their service was more in-line with Catholic liturgical norms than the Mass Alex described.
You know, whenever I state on these boards that the local Lutheran church is more reverent than the “Catholic Communities” in my area or when I state that my hubby says that those masses feel Protestant (he WAS Protestant), people dismiss me.

The proof is in the pudding, I guess.
 
I went to midnight Mass at Assumption Grotto in Detroit Michigan, Novus Ordo. We had 5 priests concelebrate and our newly ordained deacon. We had full orchestra and choir accompaniment with Grechininoff Mass sung; latin.

The Mass was beautiful, followed the rubrics perfectly as always. Our Pastor implemented Mass as our Holy Father has said that he prefers; Ad Orientem, facing east. Please take the time to visit the Te-deum blogspot te-deum.blogspot.com/ and see the pictures that the moderator posted.

I am always very sorry for those who do not get to experience the Mass in this beautiful, traditional way. Please, if you can, come visit Grotto. We love visitors!
 
You know, whenever I state on these boards that the local Lutheran church is more reverent than the “Catholic Communities” in my area or when I state that my hubby says that those masses feel Protestant (he WAS Protestant), people dismiss me.

The proof is in the pudding, I guess.
I think this is far more common an occurence than people wish to admit. I have spent a lot of time in the employ of Protestant churches, and I have seen it with my own eyes.
 
Quite true. I spent over 10 years in a Protestant church that felt more Catholic than the Catholic parishes I knew. BUT I finally realized I needed to come home, and found a parish to belong to that doesn’t almost serve as a kind of occasion of sin for me. I am profoundly grateful. It is hard for me to be Catholic, as I was raised in a non-religious, anti-Catholic family. If the Catholics aren’t going to be Catholic, it is easy to wonder why I should bother. I know this thought is incorrect, but it sure is easy.
 
Heaven’s sake, Alex, for one day of the year can the whining.

I agree with a fair bit of what you’re saying, especially the lack of the prescribed Psalm (which is an actual abuse rather than just poor personal style) but I’m sick to death of hearing about it.

If you must comment, do so to those who can do something.
LilyM,

I sympathize wholeheartedly with poor Alex, so much so that I’m offended by your “let it be” attitude EDIT I don’t know what kind of parish you belong to, but many priests will politely accept your criticism and quickly put it out of their minds. This forum allows us to vent; let’s keep it that way.

Manfred
 
My Novus Ordo mass was pretty good. The wife and I hit the 10 am 4th Sunday of Advent Mass and then went back for the 4 PM Christmas Vigil. We got to church 30 minutes early only to find it completely full. So, we were among the first to the overflow Mass in the activity center (read gym). I wasn’t expecting much but…I got to hear the Lifeteen band/choir whatever and they were actually VERY good and not happy clappy! It was three teen girls on vocals backed by a violinist, 2 guitars and dare I say drums…But the music was very subdued…Would you believe they even sang the Agnus Dei in Latin??? I won’t give them a hard time anymore…

Our oldest associate pastor was the celebrant and did a wonderful job (an old Irish priest). The original seating for 400 filled up 15 minutes before mass and another hundred or so either stood or sat in bleachers… And this was the OVERFLOW MASS!

Given the fact that I’ve been reading a lot of Benedict’s commentaries on relativism lately, I left overjoyed that so many came to celebrate the incarnation of our Lord!
 
I think the priests are not concerned about offending those of Islam, Buddhism, or Wicca, but those of the religion of Me. I was about to scream hearing the rotten things said about the priest just because he refused one Holy Communion for marrying a divorced woman or for being tough on marriage prep questions just because he got drunk on some occasions (probably before he got tough about moral theology although I admit some people can be tough on moral issues while living licentiously–but the priest in question doesn’t seem the kind to live hypocritically). If so many of them can’t stand his style of marriage prep., why keep going to him anyway? They were giving her hints on how to beat his system! I’ve heard another priest talked rottenly about. He probably deserved the rep., but still…

I made a sarcastic comment about how the priest doing the sermon probably would be boring, but that’s just because too many sermons are so densely sentamentalist and the ones at that parish do that. The EWTN priests and the Latin Mass priests have substance in their sermons. Many are not even remotely likely to be offensive to the biggest egomaniac. The repentance kinds and ones about contraception and such might, but these priests’ sermons aren’t all hell and brimstone. Don’t these priests realize their souls are in grave danger for not telling the hard truths? If they get transferred to a tiny parish or to a desk jon, so what? Their soul would be safe. If even half of all priests gave substance-filled sermons on positive things with an occasional hard teaching, they would lose many, but I believe many would come. This one priest’s Masses have even attracted some Latin Mass goers on the weekdays. At seminaries, “Goodbye, Good Men” proved that orthodoxy in seminaries work. Even liberals get disinterested. I think even liberal Catholics are subconsciously.

Some lib. Catholics say, “What can a priest say about marriage?”. What can a family counselor with straight kids tell a couple with gay kids? They need their friends and, most importantly, accumulated wisdom and info… Our Church, like those fields have hucksters; our Church is always right despite hucksters who call themselves Catholic as it is there for ones who truly care about Church teaching. For the common man, regarding Faith info., I still choose the indult Latin Mass people.

Mass is always holy, essentially, unless invalid. It counts and the Eucharist, if confected properly, also counts. I almost did in less knowledgeable times, officially leave the Church–even questioned Mary’s usefulness to us. I would never now–even if all Masses involved dressing in costumes if the Mass were valid (not even joining the SSPX). But some can become far less than holy if the liturgy is experimented with and dumned down (i.e. the Boomers I previously mentioned). Even liberals in Hollywood knows what is understood as elements of Catholic culture–what is symbolically meaningful–even if a film bashes the Church. It would never count but my friend in San Antonio goes to an Anglican church in San Antonio to hear the music we used to do at Masses. What!? Why are we, who have been trying to impress the Protestants, having a Mass more like a mainstream denominational one than like the Episcopalean more Catholic one?

Well, the devil is more scared of the Catholic Church and has done well intimidating our clergy since before the Boomers were old enough to continue the modernistic stuff, but I think we should expect better. I think more orthodox hierarchy need to straighten out the lower clergy for the sake of our souls. They need to be made aware that they should not want to lose their soul for the convenience of their much liberalized parish (there are many that are becoming more devotional, but there are still too much sleeping with non-married “lovers” and enjoyment of impure humor). I think Pope John Paul could be called “The Good” for forgiving his assassin and “Theology of the Body” and his courage in going to dangerous places to evangelize, but, despite allowing the indult Mass, he didn’t tend to the problems well enough–kind of like Charles Vth not tending to the Protestant problems in Germany Luther started. I think we need a Pope Pius X now. We need a house cleaning. We need to make EWTN Masses the model of the Mass of Pope Paul 6th since that is what the Vatican 2 Fathers wanted. EWTN people and the clergy that love it need to quit praising and talking our ears off about Vatican 2 and call for it to be immediately implemented (by force, if necessary, with the exception of indult Latin Masses and ancient Eastern Mass) and its Mass if they love it so much or bring back the Tridentine Mass (which is better anyway). Unless they have the official authority, clergy have free will to experiment with liturgy; not the authority.

Despite the shenanigans going on, we Catholics still have the only true religion without which it is impossible to please God–don’t forget it! As necessarily, learn all you can about it–no way out of that.

Merry Christmas!
 
LilyM,

I sympathize wholeheartedly with poor Alex, so much so that I’m offended by your “let it be” attiude EDIT. I don’t know what kind of parish you belong to, but many priests will politely accept your criticism and quickly put it out of their minds. This forum allows us to vent; let’s keep it that way.

Manfred
I’m not suggesting that he let anything be, or that there’s any need to accept EDIT poor liturgy as you put it.

Why not take that energy and indignation about the EDIT poor liturgy and write to … oh, the bishop? the Papal Nuncio? Cardinal Arinze? There’s three people who he actually SHOULD be talking to, rather than uselessly venting here, just off the top of my head.

Then he’d have a chance of ACTUALLY changing something.

Unless he takes steps I refuse to have any sympathy.
 
I’m not suggesting that he let anything be, or that there’s any need to accept EDIT poor liturgy as you put it.

Why not take that energy and indignation about the EDIT poor liturgy and write to … oh, the bishop? the Papal Nuncio? Cardinal Arinze? There’s three people who he actually SHOULD be talking to, rather than uselessly venting here, just off the top of my head.

Then he’d have a chance of ACTUALLY changing something.

Unless he takes steps I refuse to have any sympathy.
:amen:

Well said!
 
My Christmas Mass was like a normal Sunday Mass except that:

There was a good choir who sang in tune and properly,
They sang the Kyrie (ninefold) and Gloria,
Priest wore the special festal set which also decorated the altar which had two more candles,
One of the assistant priests looked as if someone had grabbed him by the ears and pulled him out of the bed, and sent him to distribute communion, poor man. He must have offered the midnight Mass and not got much sleep.
While walking to church early in the morning I was chased by a dog.
 
I attended that last Mass of the day, expecting to have the Third Mass of Chirstmas. Surprise! It was a very nice NO version of the “Midnight” Mass, marred only by another rendering of “The Little Drummer Boy”:bigyikes: .
Only after the Mass, an obviously tired priest took time to greet everyone in a most friendly way.
 
I attended that last Mass of the day, expecting to have the Third Mass of Chirstmas. Surprise! It was a very nice NO version of the “Midnight” Mass, marred only by another rendering of “The Little Drummer Boy”:bigyikes: .
Only after the Mass, an obviously tired priest took time to greet everyone in a most friendly way.
Oh man, anything but ‘Little Drummer Boy’. No offence, I cannot stand that song!
 
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