Christmas, Mary, and the LDS

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My apologies for any mistakes about Catholicism from me. I just assumed that sites such as this one were correct, but I may be mistaken. catholic.com/blog/jimmy-akin/what-are-the-holy-days-of-obligation

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you!!
Oh ha, you are right.

Still, every Sunday is a holy day of obligation and never as packed as Christmas Masses. I don’t think it is because people are taking the obligation more seriously on Christmas than they are for every Sunday.

Our midnight Mass has so much interest that it is ticketed (free tickets). There is no other Mass, all year, that has that much interest. If only that were not the case and every Mass was stuffed to capacity.
 
Having read through this thread I’ve gained some understanding regarding Christmas, Mary, and the LDS. Christmas is just another holiday that is far more secular than religious for the LDS, there is no special celebration of the birth of our Savior. In December they have Christmas themed talks and music, but nothing in preparation (Advent) for the birth of Jesus Christ. That outside of Christmas falling on a Sunday there is no special service to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Mary is just another woman who gave birth to a spirit baby rather than being chosen by God, immaculately conceived, and without sin, to carry and bring into the world the Savior of the world.

It feels sad in many ways.
 
Having read through this thread I’ve gained some understanding regarding Christmas, Mary, and the LDS. Christmas is just another holiday that is far more secular than religious for the LDS, there is no special celebration of the birth of our Savior. In December they have Christmas themed talks and music, but nothing in preparation (Advent) for the birth of Jesus Christ. That outside of Christmas falling on a Sunday there is no special service to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Mary is just another woman who gave birth to a spirit baby rather than being chosen by God, immaculately conceived, and without sin, to carry and bring into the world the Savior of the world.

It feels sad in many ways.
In some ways I agree. Other ways, not. Mormonism is an American religion, and has Puritan influences (though they aren’t Puritans).

It would appear to us that Puritanism was secular, but it was only Puritan. They had no holy days but Sundays, and they banned the celebration of Christmas in the colonies, where they could.

Mormons too, view Sundays as the only holy days. They celebrate Christmas like one might celebrate the birthday of a relative. It is a special day but not a holy day, unless it falls on Sunday.

After Christmas was made a federal holiday in 1870, even the Puritans relaxed up on it. Christmas grew into a family centered holiday, and nostalgic remembrances, which is the appeal for Mormons, and is also the appeal for secularists.
 
Speaking for myself, Mary has and remains significant in the holiday season, particularly from my conviction of the scriptures. My words will never be enough relative to Mary’s place in the plan of salvation — I have no doubt, I could cite example here to validate, if necessary.

I love Mary, always will be aware and nor forget her significance to Jesus Christ.

The fact that I did not go to the levels of Catholicism’ devotion is great and fine for me. My conviction of Mary and Jesus is clear, unshaken. I submit that is valid and important relative to the covenants I have with Heavenly Father and the Son of God, my Exemplar, Redeemer and Friend.
 
Speaking for myself, Mary has and remains significant in the holiday season, particularly from my conviction of the scriptures. My words will never be enough relative to Mary’s place in the plan of salvation — I have no doubt, I could cite example here to validate, if necessary.

I love Mary, always will be aware and nor forget her significance to Jesus Christ.

The fact that I did not go to the levels of Catholicism’ devotion is great and fine for me. My conviction of Mary and Jesus is clear, unshaken. I submit that is valid and important relative to the covenants I have with Heavenly Father and the Son of God, my Exemplar, Redeemer and Friend.
It is good that you love Mary. But if you do love her then why not find out more about her? You would be blown away by the incredible parallels between Mary and the Ark of the Covenant and Mary and the queen mothers of the Davidic kingdom. Are you aware of these things?
 
It is good that you love Mary. But if you do love her then why not find out more about her? You would be blown away by the incredible parallels between Mary and the Ark of the Covenant and Mary and the queen mothers of the Davidic kingdom. Are you aware of these things?
The notion that as a Latter Day Saint, previously from Catholicism, that I am not aware of womanhood in my life, with respect of my late mother and those women, dead or living, and their attributes to the human family and impact on my life has and continues to be a blessing.
 
The notion that as a Latter Day Saint, previously from Catholicism, that I am not aware of womanhood in my life, with respect of my late mother and those women, dead or living, and their attributes to the human family and impact on my life has and continues to be a blessing.
What are you talking about? None of this has anything to do with my post.
 
So what are you talking about?
Well, first of all, my post had nothing to do with the concept of “womanhood.” No idea where you got that from. What I said was that if you love Mary, you might want to get to know more about her role in scripture than what the LDS Church is aware of. Even as a former Catholic, it is likely you are unaware of some of the Marian themes found in the Bible because most Catholics are not particularly well catechized. We don’t go to Sunday school every week, especially as adults.
 
Well, first of all, my post had nothing to do with the concept of “womanhood.” No idea where you got that from. What I said was that if you love Mary, you might want to get to know more about her role in scripture than what the LDS Church is aware of. Even as a former Catholic, it is likely you are unaware of some of the Marian themes found in the Bible because most Catholics are not particularly well catechized. We don’t go to Sunday school every week, especially as adults.
Not to be brainy and whatever — what I know about Mary and the LDS church are different, speaking only for myself.

Continued success in your study and commitment thereafter ---- obviously two different roads to God is where I conclude my comments.
 
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