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ralphinal
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In some ways, that makes me feel better. We aren;t the only morons on earth
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churchcamefirst
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Christopher Columbus WAS A CATHOLIC. He gave his men communion before they set sail. The Santa Maria is named after the Virgin Mary (Holy Mary).
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1ke
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Um… Christopher Columbus was Italian. He was from Genoa. Although, in that day there was no such thing as Italy as a country. There were a number of powerful city-states such as Venice, Genoa, etc. Italy wasn’t unified until many centuries later.
(A) He was a Catholic.
(B) The Church didn’t kill people for being Jewish.
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1ke
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Why would your parents want you to be educated in a Protestant school that uses sub-standard textbooks full of errors and conspiracy theories?
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Sabda
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This is interesting, do you have any recomendations of good history books on Columbus and that time period in general?Did they know that Christopher Columbus was Italian and not Spanish?
When I did my own family geneaology, I was able to go back to at least 1573. However, the baptisms were entered into the parish’s Baptismal book. There were no ‘certificates’ as such, mostly just a ledger.
I don’t know where this A.C.E. organization gets its material but it is simply wrong. The Provincial archive in Genoa has a Sala Colombiana, a small room that holds many original Columbus family documents. They have survived the events of five centuries, including Louis XIV’s 1684 naval bombardment of Genoa. More than 60 documents recount the story of the Columbus family, beginning with the youth of Domenico Colombo. He was apprenticed to a Flemish weaver at the age of 11 and become a master weaver. Domenico Colombo married Susanna Fontanarossa. Their first child was Cristoforo, in 1451; later came Giovanni Pellegrino, Bartolomeo, Giacomo, and daughter Bianchinetta.
Christopher worked with his father. He first appears in the notarial record of September 1470. By 1472 Columbus had learned his father’s trade, for in that year he is called LANAIOLO, a worker in wool. It is not clear when he became a sailor, but by 1479 he was living in Portugal. We know this because of a 1479 lawsuit stating that Christopher Columbus a Genoese citizen residing in Portugal, was representing Genoese merchants in this transaction. We also know that Christopher Columbus donated one-tenth of his income from his discovery of the Americas to the Bank of San Giorgio in Genoa for the relief of taxation on foods.
There is a faction of Protestant “revisional history” which attempts to portray the Church in every possible evil light, which is evil in itself. And much of the information is wrong. Columbus’s baptism was in the church of Santa Margarita. How A.C.E. ever got it so wrong is beyond me. Then again, it’s agenda is obvious.
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james_dillaplai
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Just stating I don’t believe what they say about the church or most history. The reason why my parents send me here is that they are more Protestant than Catholic.
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inthecloud
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- Christophoro Colombo was a Genovesse.
- There were no bith certificates them.
- The Inquisition did not kill people from being Jewish.
- There were no Jesuits them.
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1ke
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Well, James, regardless of their religious affiliation the question remains: why would they want you to receive a **sub-standard **education?
You can easily look up Christopher Columbus in an encyclopedia at the local library and show your parents that your school’s textbook is full of inaccuracies.
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inthecloud
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Its sad to say but you be better far off in a public school.
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estesbob
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I am afraid that the History books used in Public schoold are as bad or worst. For instance what do you think the which group; has the most photographs in the top 25 history books when discussing the 20th century?Its sad to say but you be better far off in a public school.
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james_dillaplai
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AH about the him being from Genova they came up with the fact that he was actually from Spain despite all evidence otherwise.
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inthecloud
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There is a minority position that said he might be Catalan. Anyways not a Jew.
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james_dillaplai
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Oh, by the way can anyone expand on the “trail of blood” history? Is there only one variation or multiple variations depending on the denomination using it and how many people believe this?
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scipio337
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I’ve also heard that his Social Security and Quizno’s lunch cards have never been found.
Conspiracy?
Conspiracy?
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RobHom
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Considering that it seems there is very little agreement as to where he was actually born… Was it Genoa? Was it Calvi (Corsica)? or where? Seems the greatest consensus is “Italy”… and in those days Italy was one of the Papal States…or at least large parts of it was…
Me thinks this is much like a John Cleese aka Monty Python-ish Jesuit “Conspiracy” thingy…
What you have seen is another example of a “propaganda” vouchsafed in an “educational book”…foisted on the unlearned and unsuspecting… Nothing new. SOS/SSDD.
Oh, those wascally Jesuits…they’re up to their sheenanigans again!!!
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RobHom
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And depending on what state you live in…that could be considered “sad commentary on the state of education therein”…Its sad to say but you be better far off in a public school.
Personally…I think they would be better off studying the “Zen of Motorcycle Mechanics”…
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strngrnrth
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And his Dutch Bros. card, and his bill for satellite TV! Wow, they must have been clues to Columbus’ secret identity, to be cleaned up so thoroughly. Oh no, there’s a shadow looming across my floor. Who’s there?
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ralphinal
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As far as I know, only Baptists claim it publically. That does not mean other groups don’t have some version of it. I am not sure how many actually hold to that form of revisionist garbage.
John the Baptist was not the first baptist. Most of the other groups they list as fore-runners were all heretics in every sense of the word, such as Catharists, Paulicians, and Donatists.
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