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jay29
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Exactly right. When a priest wants to have sex with a teenage boy, the act that occurs is homosexual in nature. It is not straight sex. Jeepers.
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siamesecat
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Well it is homosexual, as in it is not straight. But if these guys were just regular homosexuals, why wouldn’t they just go to a gay club somewhere that wasn’t criminal and have a secret homosexual life? A lot less risky than preying on unwilling teens - the fact that the only went after teens proves that it’s an age thing - not just a homosexual thing. It’s not fair to lump them with average homosexuals. Just as if a priest gets caught with a bunch of girls, it’s not fair to say that’s regular straight behavior. I
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MDK
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Yes, the Catholic Church is held to a higher standard, as well it should. We should be doing better than average. However, the desire for Satan to infiltrate and attack our Church is also much greater as well. This is the Church that Satan’s greatest enemy built. Sadly, the other churches are corrupt in doctrine and behaviors. Ours is not corrupt in doctrine and never will be. Satan desires to get his work through behaviors, so others won’t believe in the Catholic Church and therefore have the most secure means of salvation available on earth, via valid priesthood, real and true Sacraments, and doctrine and dogma that are without error. By following Catholicism faithfully, we can be closer to Christ than by adhering to any other faith system. Satan is well aware of this, and so is his most cherished target. We should pray and fast and be obedient to Christ in following His teachings as given to us without error through His Church. This is the way we defeat Satan.
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estesbob
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A homosexual priest must keeop his sexual behavior secret. Teen boys are the perfect target. Homosexual rape is a homsexual thing.
What is an average homosexual? Why is it important to you to try and distance the homosexual behavior of these priests from homosexuality in general?
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jay29
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Both actions are mortal sins anyway.
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EmperorNapoleon
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That isn’t true. There are 4 categories of pedophile; Fixated, Regressed Heterosexuals, Regressed Bisexuals, and Regressed Homosexuals. Pedophiles which fit into the Fixated and Regressed Bisexual categories are likely to target boys as well.
Because the vast majority of homosexuals do not rape children and less than 1% of pedophiles are have a gender preference exclusively for the same gender.
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jay29
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Most priest molestations are against teenage boys. That’s not pedophilia and it is a homosexual attack.
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estesbob
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Pediophiliacs prey on pre-pubsececent children-this accounted for a very small minority of the sexual abuses by Priests.
It is important that we concentrate on the root of the problem if the poroblem is to be solved. Keeping pediophiles from the Priesthood would have eliminated only 8% of the abuses. the other 92% were done by homosexual Priests. the solution is obvious.
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EmperorNapoleon
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You cannot assume sexual preference based solely on the gender of the victim. Those priests could be bisexual or fixated on age. And what is the source of your statistic?
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St_Francis
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First of all, we do not know that they did not *only *target teens or why if they did. I think it’s easy to see why a priest would not go to a public venue such as a “gay” club or someplace.
A lot of times vulnerable teens will go through a period of confusion–this would be an easy “source” of partners for those who work with teens. Additionally, many homosexual men tend to be more and more attracted to youth, or perhaps they are always so but as they get older the age difference becomes more noticeable or condemnable. A 20-year-old attracted to 18- and 19-year-olds is considered normal where a 60-year-old’s attraction to the same age would be considered odd at best. But overall, youth is a definite plus in the homosexual world, which is centered on unbounded sexual gratification.
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dixieagle
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You’re speaking of Fr. Gerald Fitzgerald. He was a courageous man, and a good friend of a saintly elderly aunt of mine in Massachusetts. He spoke to her of the evils of this situation, and the fact that it would cause great harm to the Church, as far back as the 1930s, and later founded the Servants of the Paraclete.
Here is a link to a very recent article: ncronline.org/news/accountability/bishops-were-warned-abusive-priests
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Dtmccameron
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He is helping us! Can’t you see it?
So I wonder then, will the Church pay out more millions to…do what ever millions are supposed to do again? Or, will it take an appropriate stance against these which have commited one of the most heinous of sins, Scandal?
Y’know, I’m actually rather fine with witches and homosexuals walking about, but I feel we should get all 14th century on our own.
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nepsis
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I have “Come Home” recently but struggle between Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism (I was raised in Byzantine rite). ANYWAY,… this issues (and a couple others I am aware of in Seminaries) really is a struggle and part of my East/West considerations.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS?
Should we not not allow priests to marry also anyway? After all, scripture says one of the qualifications we should observe in church leadership is that he rule his household well, having his children in order, and of good report in the community and so on (Timothy ch3 and elsewhere)
Also, I feel that a young man can easily confuse a lack of attraction to women as a call to celibacy as he struggles with all that goes with homosexual physiological and personality traits (meekness, passiveness, etc… mistaken for spiritual traits/calling). As for why children,… well, young boys have always been a target of homosexual community, so no different with homosexual priests right?
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS?
Should we not not allow priests to marry also anyway? After all, scripture says one of the qualifications we should observe in church leadership is that he rule his household well, having his children in order, and of good report in the community and so on (Timothy ch3 and elsewhere)
Also, I feel that a young man can easily confuse a lack of attraction to women as a call to celibacy as he struggles with all that goes with homosexual physiological and personality traits (meekness, passiveness, etc… mistaken for spiritual traits/calling). As for why children,… well, young boys have always been a target of homosexual community, so no different with homosexual priests right?
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St_Francis
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I don’t think that you should decide between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches based on this issue. You should decide that based on which is correct. Since the main issue between the two churches is the primacy of the Pope, I would suggest researching that issue. I myself seriously investigated the Orthodox Church because my husband was more open to it than to the Catholic Church, but I came to realize through my reading that the Catholic Church was correct in this issue, and so I remained in the Catholic Church.
Your other points are well-taken, but the seminaries ought to have been more discerning in their acceptance of young men to the priesthood. There were a number of reasons why this was not done, most of which have little to do with the Church.
Celibacy has been a discipline of the Church for many centuries and has for the most part worked well. Changing that discipline because of current temporary problems like a shortage of priests or this issue would be to reactive.
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YADA
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Please go back and read my POST #32 …
You should seek the Truth of the Gospel and place you faith there … not on the bad behaviors of individuals who practice the faith … If you search for perfection you will be sadly disappointed - plus unlikely to find a home; unless you yourself are perfect …
The most likely place of a child to be molested is the public school system …
Every church has those that prey on children … the Catholic Church [headlines aside] has fewer abusers - statistically … BUT ALL ABUSE AGAINST CHILDREN NEEDS TO BE PREVENTED …AND WHEN KNOWN - REPORTED TO THE PROPER AUTHORITY [CIVIL AND OTHER] …
Sadly it was a Sunday School teacher that was arrested for killing that young girl last week … please pray for her soul and her family … Satan and his minions run amuck in this world … sexualizing our society … We need to take back our society and get morality back into the public square … and it starts with us - individually … each of us
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buffalo
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Celibacy has been a discipline going back to the 3rd century.
When you look at the John Jay Study you will see that 40% of the accusations were made in a very short time frame in the 70’s and early 80’s. The baseline is very low and then it suddenly jumps up for this period and then falls tight back down after. The evidence shows that sexual abuse by the clergy is lowest in the Catholic Church. Just wait until the numbers start coming out about the public school system.
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kieran6161
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there are child abusers in many professions
but there collegues wouldnt brush it under the carpet
l am a catholic but getting fed up with all the hypcrosy
l believe in god but human intervention has twisted gods word to suit themselves
hand over all the abusers to the authorities
and no l wont be praying for them
but there collegues wouldnt brush it under the carpet
l am a catholic but getting fed up with all the hypcrosy
l believe in god but human intervention has twisted gods word to suit themselves
hand over all the abusers to the authorities
and no l wont be praying for them
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