Church attire (all kinds)

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I am reading this thread and please I sincerely do not want this to be taken wrongly. But I have to ask with all sincerity and respect, because it is scaring me a bit. Is this what the faith has become? Concerns about and the importance of the color of the lace and measurements of a mantilla a woman wears?
I think this is being asked because when one chooses to dress modestly, when they feel the pull of the Holy Spirit to dress modestly, it is very hard. It is hard to be the only one. It is hard to take the looks and comments. It’s hard to want to dress modest and not want to stand out. Veiling is the hardest. Fellowship with others who are encouraging gives you strength and helps strengthen your faith.
 
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For a traditionalist who attends a TLM parish where skirts are the norm, stepping out into the world where pants rule the day can be quite jarring.

I’ll let the pictures speak for themselves. I posted plus sized models because I most often hear complaints from bigger women that they look terrible in skirts.

Honestly, which looks better? Exposed shoulders and back of the dress aside, which is more modest in terms of keeping the private areas of the body hidden?

(If you wear the maxi dress to Mass though, please wear a cover up for your shoulders! 😉
KBernadette, I understand exactly what you are saying. I think the dress looks much better, (exposed shoulders aside), much prettier. Many women do not realize that that is what their pants look like from the back. It might be a good idea for women to look to see what their back side looks like before leaving the house.
 

No not unique to men–for I have seen women just as involved in doing just that. Have you ever read a book that you really find interesting–that you immerse yourself in reading–blocking out the noise/commotion/etc. Yea–women can do that too.
Walking_ Home, I have to agree. My niece immerses herself in a book when she is reading and she is also an avid sports fan especially football.
 
This is something unique to men. Their brains function differently than women’s, which allows them to focus on one thing, and block out everything else. Women, on the other hand are multi-taskers and focus on a variety of things.
Even if this were true, and men can block out what women are wearing and have more of a unique focus, why then would women be concerned with what other women are wearing?
 
I think this is being asked because when one chooses to dress modestly, when they feel the pull of the Holy Spirit to dress modestly, it is very hard. It is hard to be the only one. It is hard to take the looks and comments. It’s hard to want to dress modest and not want to stand out. Veiling is the hardest. Fellowship with others who are encouraging gives you strength and helps strengthen your faith.
I actually can relate somewhat. Since I feel the pull of God’s Spirit not to be too concerned about attire in church when I am visiting Him. And I choose to dress casually comfortable. To me Christ is more concerned about the poor, the sick who can not afford adequate health care, things like that. But I still remember once when I received Christ in a nice clean pair of cargo shorts, a clean shirt, and tennis shoes because my feet hurt, I made the sign of the cross, turned around to return to my seat, and this lady in the first row gave me such a frowning look. I don’t usually allow what others think to bother me all that much though when it comes to church attire. God knows my heart. Maybe though I’m just not meant to fellowship with traditional Catholics.
 
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No not unique to men–for I have seen women just as involved in doing just that. Have you ever read a book that you really find interesting–that you immerse yourself in reading–blocking out the noise/commotion/etc. Yea–women can do that too.
Walking_ Home, I have to agree. My niece immerses herself in a book when she is reading and she is also an avid sports fan especially football.

Yup–girls/women can focus on one task --just as they can multi-task. And men can multi-task too.
 

Yup–girls/women can focus on one task --just as they can multi-task. And men can multi-task too.
:yup: I think for me maybe it just all depends on where I choose to place my main focus at the moment I suppose when I am focused on one task. God bless and peace be with you and everyone here. :grouphug:
 
:yup: I think for me maybe it just all depends on where I choose to place my main focus at the moment I suppose when I am focused on one task. **God bless and peace be with you **and everyone here. :grouphug:

Same to you CMatt25.
 
What I don’t understand though is if traditionalists are the orthodox and most faithful of the faith, then those who don’t subscribe to the traditionalist dress code, are what? Less Catholic? :confused:
Not less Catholic. Just less reverent, or at least, that’s the message you send to the rest of the congregation (none of us know what is in your heart). However, I do observe in my own parishes that the men who wear shorts tend to be the men who either do not believe in or do not understand the Real Presence, which makes sense: if Jesus isn’t truly there, then there’s no need to put on a more reverent tone than you would elsewhere in your daily life. I am not saying that’s the case with you specifically, as I have gathered from your comments that you do believe in the Real Presence. It’s just my general observation of most shorts-wearers I encounter in church.
Probably not but living in the south I am often in shorts and for instance I could be out and then instead of wasting gas and going home to change, I might stop for church while I am out.
I bring a change of clothes when we are out and about, but might be going to church. It hasn’t cost me one ounce of gas to dress up in the presence of our Lord.

BTW, the reason multiple people are giving you the “pat yourself on the back” comment is because you post in many of the “attire” articles with the same comment about how you it’s easy for you to not be distracted by others, when many men have a real struggle with this. IMO, you do come off as “better than” the other men and don’t convey any sense of understanding that an actual struggle exists and men are trying to avoid sin. I’m sure you don’t mean it to come off like that, but I just wanted to be honest with how I (and maybe others) perceive it, since you seemed genuinely surprised by the “pat yourself” comments.
 
I usually wear a cassock and surplice at Mass. Problem solved. 😃

I get a seat with a cushion too. 👍

And I get to recieve right from the hands of the priest, right after the priest recieves. 😛

And I get to ring the bells. :cool:

Does this make me look fat?



Just felt like saying that.

-Tim-
 
Not less Catholic. Just less reverent, or at least, that’s the message you send to the rest of the congregation

BTW, the reason multiple people are giving you the “pat yourself on the back” comment is because you post in ever “attire” article with the same comment about how you it’s easy for you to not be distracted by others, when many men have a real struggle with this. IMO, you do come off as “better than” the other men and don’t convey any sense of understanding that an actual struggle exists and men are trying to avoid sin. I’m sure you don’t mean it to come off like that, but I just wanted to be honest with how I (and maybe others) perceive, since you seemed genuinely surprised by the “pat yourself” comments.
Maybe less reverant to those in the congregation who have, as someone else here described as, a “traditionalist mindset”.

You’re right though. I don’t at all mean to come off like I’m “better than”. We are all sinners and face temptation. Myself very much included. But we also have some free will and choice. I’m not the greatest by any description. Your idea though that men have a struggle with this seems not to jive with the idea that men are unique in their focus as compared to women.

Interesting topic though. I suppose best though that I never attend a church with such an outlook if I’m going to be a distraction. Peace.
 
I usually wear a cassock and surplice at Mass. Problem solved. 😃

I get a seat with a cushion too. 👍

And I get to recieve right from the hands of the priest, right after the priest recieves. 😛

And I get to ring the bells. :cool:

Does this make me look fat?

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Just felt like saying that.

-Tim-
Based on your pants not being as loose and the fit in your shoulder area, no my opinion is I would not say you look plus size in that picture. But then I’m not Lane Bryant. 😃
 
Your idea though that men have a struggle with this seems not to jive with the idea that men are unique in their focus as compared to women.
Perhaps, if one subscribes to the idea that men have a unique ability to “focus” (the sports game example) and that ability somehow translates to Mass. I don’t buy that, so I don’t see a conflict there.
Maybe less reverant to those in the congregation who have, as someone else here described as, a “traditionalist mindset”.

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I suppose best though that I never attend a church with such an outlook if I’m going to be a distraction.
I would argue that the outlook isn’t something limited to people with a traditional mindset or the small number of traditional parishes, but that it is our Church’s mindset. It’s just not obvious because the casual culture has taken over most in almost all parishes. In my archdiocese, many (most?) parishes publish something very similar to this in their bulletin each year as summer approaches:
standard parish wording:
Summer Attire - Modest Attire: With the arrival of Spring, it is natural for us to pull out our warm weather clothing and don shorts and flip-flops. It is thus a good time to reflect on a dress code appropriate for attending Mass or making a visit to a church. Let us keep foremost in our minds that upon entering the church, we enter the house of God and come into the real presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. While our interior disposition of reverence is most important, it should also be evident in modesty and reverence in our dress and actions. We should not therefore wear shorts, halter-tops, flip-flops, mini-skirts, tight-fitting clothing, or clothing that exposes the back or midriff. While some of these items may be appropriate for picnics or other outdoor activities,** they are not appropriate for the worship of God in church**. May we give due honor and glory to God by showing our reverential love for Him and our respect for fellow parishioners through our modest attire and good example as we worship in His presence.
Though this request is roundly ignored by most, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the Church’s mindset. Don’t try wearing shorts to mass at St. Peter’s in Rome - you won’t get through the front door 😛
 
I always wear a suit and tie to Mass, no jacket.

The reason is that before I returned to the church, I had only been to Sunday Mass twice or so when I was really little, and thought that everybody wore suits or dresses/skirts to Mass. 😛

After finding out the truth of the matter, I just never changed my attire. 🤷
 
Yes, technically they are plus sized models.

Good for you that you wouldn’t be bothered by either woman. Pat yourself on the back for not having concupiscence of the eyes.

How about this one though, this was at the NO Mass I attended last week… fun…

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I attended my grandson’s Leaver’s Mass where one of the mothers wore the same attire to Church. She also chatted loudly with friends she was with. The Headmistress had to remind them that they were in God’s house and were sat in front of the Blessed Sacrament.
 
I do find it distracting when others are wearing tight, skimpy and/or revealing clothes at Mass. I have to work on concentrating much harder on Mass when others make it difficult that they cannot find a modest outfit for Mass. I am not asking for people to wear the latest fashions in magazines but I am sure there are some modest & tasteful choices out there.

I know I am checking my clothing choices much more now for modesty before going to the office and especially for Mass (and any church related activity). People can be immodest in dress if they want for a concert, club or the beach but the immodest clothes are NOT appropriate for church, the office, and certain other special occasions.
 
What’s even worse is the attire of those up in the Sanctuary. :eek: Flip flops, ratty sneakers, torn jeans, unkempt hair, giant hoop earings (you know, like the ones from the 80s), cintures worn at the hips rather than the waist. Is it that difficult to dress appropriately???

And while this one has nothing to with dress, chewing gum! They shouldn’t even be receiving Communion!
 
I would argue that the outlook isn’t something limited to people with a traditional mindset or the small number of traditional parishes, but that it is our Church’s mindset. It’s just not obvious because the casual culture has taken over most in almost all parishes. In my archdiocese, many (most?) parishes publish something very similar to this in their bulletin each year as summer approaches:
If this is the Catholic Church’s mindset, I guess I just don’t understand why if Christ walked the earth in sandals that He would have a problem with us visiting His house in casual attire. I sorta like in contrast to your archdiocese’s puiblishings, what an Episcopal church near me publishes for one of their services about it, “Jeans, flip-flops, open-hearts and questioning minds are encouraged here.” God bless and peace.
 
What’s even worse is the attire of those up in the Sanctuary. :eek: Flip flops, ratty sneakers, torn jeans, unkempt hair, giant hoop earings (you know, like the ones from the 80s), cintures worn at the hips rather than the waist. Is it that difficult to dress appropriately???

And while this one has nothing to with dress, chewing gum! They shouldn’t even be receiving Communion!
Love Divine, what size earrings are appropriate accessories for women? I only ask because I noticed the young woman who cuts my hair, during a recent visit to get my hair trimmed, was wearing giant hoops. I wasn’t distracted. She has a boyfriend and I’m old enough to be her father anyway. Even if neither were the situation, I’d probably not be her type as I am a bit plus size probably. So I just stayed focus on the task at hand which at that place and time was my haircut. But if they are from the 80s, are they something that are coming back? They would not be appropriate accessories on a woman in church who is otherwise dressed appropriately in a nice dress?
 
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