Do you think that exposing our children to a constant diet of magic wands and fairies and witches etc during their most fomative years is intentional?
Amen.
Amen again.
Twilight is also on my ârejectâ list. But that is another thread.
We have, over and over again. Someone simply asked you a pretty fundamental question, and youâre not answering it. Is magic only bad in HP, or is magic also bad in Narnia, or in Middle Earth? Or are they âexemptâ because youâve just decided that âtheyâre specialâ?Why donât you attempt to defend your beloved Potter instead of attacking me personally?
Are there evil spirits? Yes, weâve been through this one already. Itâs not like those who enjoy HP also donât believe in evil spirits or the devil. But, evil spirits only have as much power as you give them. They donât have any inherent power, only God does. The only power they get is what your willing to give them.
Again, appealing to authority is not a proper answer. Weâve already shown that the priest is not an expert on HP (nobody managed to find a citation that said he even read the books), and that his opinions are laughable (he though a scene from the movie Aliens was promoting abortion, which is so ridicules as to be laughable). His credibility is shot.Really? You discredited the priest exorcist? I think Iâll side with him. No offense.
And Merchant of Venice reminded us that âEven the Devil can use scripture to his advantageâ. Whatâs your point?
Did you really mean that respectfully?
That is the point!
Some. Years ago.
No. Thatâs like saying that Narnia teaches about beings not created by God, and therefore, must prove a belief in a different God because the book is about the adventures of talking animals, satyrs, minotaurs, centaurs, etc.
Which ones? How long ago? And what can you remember about the plot lines?
Are you serious?
It is none of your business.
About four years.
Not much.
See, this is what you are either refusing to admit or are blind to see.
Sorry if I struck a cord, but I just wanted to know how familiar with the series you were for the sake of how much detail I could use in my arguments. And thatâs fine if you agree with the priest - I choose to agree with the Bishop, and I feel I have clearly explained why the priestâs views should not be taken blindly nor authoritatively by those who have not read the books.It is none of your business.
About four years.
Not much.
I will get back to the OP now. I agree with the Exorcist priest.
You are the one refusing to see. Witchcraft is part of each storyline because they are witches and they practice witchcraft and they attend witch school. Sheesh!
Witchcraft is part of the story!
Witch craft is never neutral. Let he who has eyes see.
You did not strike a cord. And I do not see this as an argument (debate). There are defenders of PotterâŚand there are opposers to Potter. I am of the latter and nothing will change that. And I do not think your stance will be altered on the other side.
I know many clergy who agree with the exorcist.
So if you are holding fast to this, then you must dismiss any single work that has magic in it, and proof has already been given of the priestâs preference for Narnia and Middle-Earth. We want to know what differentiates those from this. Thatâs it. Explain that and weâll be pacified.
The debate is that many anti-Potter posters have, mostly through inference, made it appear that those Catholics who read and enjoy Harry Potter are either sinning outright or opening up demons into our lives. We have responded that there is no sin, and how is one book that contains magic more dangerous than another book that contains magic.You did not strike a cord. And I do not see this as an argument (debate). There are defenders of PotterâŚand there are opposers to Potter. I am of the latter and nothing will change that. And I do not think your stance will be altered on the other side.
I know many clergy who agree with the exorcist.
LOL! I am not here to pacify you. Do the Narnaia and Tolkein movies revolve around witches being taught by withces in witch school?
No, but the argument is that ANY use of witch craft is evil, Satanic, welcomes in demons, etc, so the extent doesnât actually matter.
Well, we are all sinners. And we are all attacked through the passions on a daily basis. We fall and we get back up. I am certainly not one to call you or anyone else a sinner because I am the worst of all sinners. But I happen to believe that the Potter series is a gateway to something sinister, so I will not permit my children to consume these books or movies. Since the Catholic Church has not come out with a definitive comment about the subject, I would say that it is between you and your Spiritual Father and/or Confessor.
Ouch! I would have much to say about that since I am staunchly pro-life.