"Church" of Sweden "queers" Jesus

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These figures are slightly misleading because back in 1972 all children born in Sweden were automatically enrolled in the Church of Sweden unless belonging to a different Church or religion, now membership is opt-in rather than opt-out.
 
In the link prayerrider provided in post #11. The article has a link to the brochure.
 
I had a “Teach Yourself Icelandic” book when I was a kid. Didn’t get far.
Paranthetically, I understand that there is a small but vibrant Catholic community in Iceland.
 
I’m a member of the Anglican Ordinariate OCSP. I’d welcome a Lutheran Ordinariate.
 
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As I pointed out above, that is a genuine Neo-Nazi site. Please don’t link to it from this forum.
 
If true, It’s still indoctrination though, right? Even if it’s intended for kids who “identify,” it’s indoctrinating them into a false and blasphemous theology. If true.
 
They’ve been doing that forever now. Some of their activists have not minced words on this - some in some very vulgar terms.
 
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The fact that the Church of Sweden is shrinking is not necessarily evidence it is doing a bad job. In a secularized culture, other factors are at work besides the Church.
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You are correct.
Just my own reflection:
People don’t experience the Swedishness of the Church of Sweden as much as before.
I feel more Swedish when going to the Catholic Church rather than when going to the Church of Sweden.
The notion of a national Church is gone. There is no such a Church any more.
Most of the good Swedish Christian culture can be found in the Catholic Church anyway (but with a more wonderfull fullnes and depth).
I mean, in a society without a national Church you can find your culture outside. Before it wasnt like that. In other Churches or in the secular society.
I’m just wondering how long the Church of Sweden can exist. The old Lutheranism is gone.

What do you think?
 
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From the Svenskakyrkan page:

"The survival guide wants to provide examples of cross-border people and relationships found in the biblical story.

The survival guide contains some theological interpretations that have been important to LGBTQ people who wanted to see themselves and their lives as part of the biblical story."

and

“The survival guide does not claim that these interpretations are the only ones possible.”

Oh, I guess that disclaimer makes it all fine, then. 😒
 
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For me, there’s also sorrow. How Christ must suffer when He and His Holy Mother are blasphemed!
 
I read the booklet. It basically says that Jesus tried to brake the norms of His day. This is what homosexual people try to do today.
It did also mention Jonathan and David. It also said that the Bible says that it is not homosexuality that is dissorder. Only rape is dissordered.
It is just trying to encouragd people without giving them the arguments. It didnt explain why they thought Jesus broke the norm of His days and ordained female Bishops and argued for gay reationships.
Just a crazy booklet in my opinion.
 
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It’s Biblical reinterpretation to normalize homosexual intercourse. Some Catholics are even making that effort, slowly and incrementally.
Did God really say…?
 
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Sometimes I think it’s better to laugh at this unironic irreverence instead of getting pissed
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The best thing to do is tolive a holy life yourself and try unrderstand differdnt people.
Why waste your time with a small booklet!
 
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The fact that the Church of Sweden is shrinking is not necessarily evidence it is doing a bad job. In a secularized culture, other factors are at work besides the Church.
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You are correct.
Just my own reflection:
I’m just wondering how long the Church of Sweden can exist. The old Lutheranism is gone.
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In the USA Mainline denominations take on a momentum of their own. They adapt to the secular culture, and then try to adapt the culture, to make the whole culture “mainline”.

I’m not amazed they are shrinking fast, I’m amazed they have any people left at all. They justify their existence by satisfying the human need for “religion” independent of God. They offer “community”, and commitment to Peace and Justice, which for them is the Left.

So the Church of Sweden will likely linger, too. The old familiar church building, a beloved hymn, the Tradition of Easter and a few holidays, the patterns hold for most, maybe one more generation. Inertia.
 
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Again, I think it’s important for Catholics to be vigilant. Those who want the Church to change to accommodate secular views, particularly on homosexual activity and same sex “marriage,” are patient and methodical, working towards incremental goals just as we have seen in many Protestant churches and in society at large. That, to me, is the take away warning from things like this.
 
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Maybe 10 or 20 years ago all sorts of people were proclaiming these liberal, progressive Churches to be the future. Even recently, an atheist friend of mine was still under this delusion. Of course, its telling that he was an atheist telling me this, and not an Episcopalian or liberal Christian. Many Churches are declining right now, but the liberal ones are declining much faster. There’s not a single liberal denomination (to my knowledge) that is doing well.

And, why go to Church if you can just sleep in? Why try to be a Christian, if you’re basically guaranteed salvation no matter what you do? They don’t teach about sin, and by extension, they can’t preach about being Holy and serving God, if you throw sin out of the equation.

Anyways, I’m glad some denominations did adopt all the liberal teachings: gay marriage, abortion, God is a woman, or now maybe God is homosexual. Women priests, etc. By your fruits you shall know them. And, I think by any analysis, they have turned into a dead branch that bears no fruit. Eventually they will whither and die.

Lastly, yes, there are small but vibrant Catholic communities in most of the Nordic countries. Thank God. In fact, in Iceland the Catholic Church is the second largest religious group. That’s not the case in Sweden, yet. But hopefully, will be.
 
Does being “openly lesbian” necessarily mean one is in a lesbian relationship or marriage? Don’t forget that people call themselves gay or lesbian if they are SSA although they may be chaste.
 
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Does their Church require celibate chastity of its openly lesbian bishops?
Let’s not be disingenious, eh?
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