Church used Nazi slave labor?

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I just find it interesting that this article is released on the eve of the pope’s visit to the U.S. :rolleyes:
 
I just find it interesting that this article is released on the eve of the pope’s visit to the U.S. :rolleyes:
Precisely. :rolleyes:

ETA: it’s kind of a non-story, really. The Church admitted this years ago and has tried to pay compensation.

Yeah… this is alllll about the timing.
 
Everyone also “forgets” that 3 million Catholics died in the Nazi concentration camps!!!
 
And that many Catholics risked everything to hide Jews. And that the Pope gave his summer home to house some of them.
 
Wasn’t the whole premise of the movie Schindler’s List that the factory owner took in prisoner labor to save them from going to the camps? Weren’t these people who worked in the Catholic hospitals similarly saved from going to the camps?
 
In fairness to the “New York Slimes,” it is a Reuters article, so we need to slap both of them…

Regarding the news itself, I agree with the other posters who question the timing. The article doesn’t cite a new report or finding. This is the second paragraph:
In 2000, the church acknowledged its use of forced labor under Hitler; it has paid about $2.35 million in compensation to foreign workers. The report, “Forced Labor and the Catholic Church 1939-1945,” is the most thorough look at the issue.
So, an eight-year-old report, in which the Church acknowledges past wrongs and paid compensation, is the important news of the day?
 
Timing or not…I care less…what disturbs me YET AGAIN, is another revelation about the Catholic Church. Tis is the first I am hearing this…I no longer trust it.
 
Timing or not…I care less…what disturbs me YET AGAIN, is another revelation about the Catholic Church. Tis is the first I am hearing this…I no longer trust it.
Yeah, I’m with you. I don’t trust the NY Times either
 
As I read it people were FORCED to work FOR the nazis IN catholic institutions such as hospitals etc, which were taken over BY the nazis.

Attacking the Catholic Church is as easy as hitting a barn door with an elephant.

Strange how they didn’t produce a headline saying something along the lines of clever political and diplomatic gamesmanship from the church fathers eases the fate of thousands and saves many more thousands of lives…
 
If it was anyone that ‘went along with the Nazi regime’ it was the American government, the British government and the French government who could have done something prior to '35.

The vatican signed the concordat with the nazi regime in '33, but Hitler broke it. Britain and France signed it in 1938 despite the warnings that the nazi regime was lying. People don’t want the Church to involve itself in society, yet when something goes wrong they are asking for the Church.

Let’s not forget what the Israeli chief rabbi said about pius xii’s pontificate and the millions of jews that thanked the church. He thanked the Holy Father and his illustrious delegates who at a time of war showed the manifestation of divine providence. All this rubbish spurting up now is the remnants of the soviet disinformation campaign. The Vatican never had full control of the whole church during the war, some bishops did whatever they wanted, people look at 60 years through a lens of today.

They forget there was no internet, if something went wrong it usually took months to clarify something and get it set back on path. I don’t know what this ‘forced labour’ exactly is, this is the first time I’m hearing it. I know in general terms that millions were ‘forced’ to work for the Nazi and Fascist governments at the time in Europe. It’s not something you could volunteer for, either you worked or you died.

Supposedly the whole Nazi thing is the Church’s fault too, especially when Nazism wanted to bring down the Catholic Church, yea that makes perfect sense now.

Who seriously writes these delusional articles? Misleading themselves and others.
 
If it was anyone that ‘went along with the Nazi regime’ it was the American government, the British government and the French government who could have done something prior to '35.

The vatican signed the concordat with the nazi regime in '33, but Hitler broke it. Britain and France signed it in 1938 despite the warnings that the nazi regime was lying. People don’t want the Church to involve itself in society, yet when something goes wrong they are asking for the Church.

Let’s not forget what the Israeli chief rabbi said about pius xii’s pontificate and the millions of jews that thanked the church. He thanked the Holy Father and his illustrious delegates who at a time of war showed the manifestation of divine providence. All this rubbish spurting up now is the remnants of the soviet disinformation campaign. The Vatican never had full control of the whole church during the war, some bishops did whatever they wanted, people look at 60 years through a lens of today.

They forget there was no internet, if something went wrong it usually took months to clarify something and get it set back on path. I don’t know what this ‘forced labour’ exactly is, this is the first time I’m hearing it. I know in general terms that millions were ‘forced’ to work for the Nazi and Fascist governments at the time in Europe. It’s not something you could volunteer for, either you worked or you died.

Supposedly the whole Nazi thing is the Church’s fault too, especially when Nazism wanted to bring down the Catholic Church, yea that makes perfect sense now.

Who seriously writes these delusional articles? Misleading themselves and others.
And let’s never forget Max Kolbe.
 
Yes, I know it’s the New York Slimes, but I’m still troubled. Does anyone else have any other sources about this story?

nytimes.com/2008/04/09/world/europe/09nazi.html?_r=1&st=cse&sq=catholic+church+nazi&scp=1&oref=slogin
Anything that has Nazi and church and the ny times should be lumped with other biased sources along the same line like Torah and the Talmud. Ny Times and those books not that much different, the sooner you realize that the better you will feel about your faith.
 
Wasn’t the whole premise of the movie Schindler’s List that the factory owner took in prisoner labor to save them from going to the camps? Weren’t these people who worked in the Catholic hospitals similarly saved from going to the camps?
I was going to mention this fact also. Those that labored for no pay in many of the hospitals, factories and farms were those that lived to tell about the horrors of WWII. Sometimes you need to hide in plain sight to survive.
 
Anything that has Nazi and church and the ny times should be lumped with other biased sources along the same line like Torah and the Talmud. Ny Times and those books not that much different, the sooner you realize that the better you will feel about your faith.
Do you find it difficult to type with that hood over your eyes? It seems you have an obsession with mocking the Torah and Talmud in as many posts as possible.
 
As to the timing of the article, it is based on a report released by the Church on Tuesday, so I don’t see anything suspicious about it.

I also do not see how one can view what happened as the Church trying to save lives, as this is not a position that the Church itself is taken regarding this slave labor.
 
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