Clearing your mind and Catholicism?

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Hi everyone! I’m a Catholic prone to over-thinking, over-analyzing, and mentally exhausting myself. I’ve struggled with, but overcome, OCD and scrupulousity in the past, but I’ve seen some signs of scrupulousity popping up again in my life. And so much of it is self-inflicted mental torment, unfortunately—lots of “solving problems that don’t actually exist”, you could say.

Anyways, my over-thinking mind clutters my head and makes me completely un-present to the people around me. I want to clear my mind so as to be open to the reality of life around me, and especially to however God might be speaking to me, but I’m deathly afraid of falling into any New Age-y or Buddhist practice. I don’t believe in any of that stuff, making myself God, the “God as a part of oneself”, or anything like that. But I’m often in desperate need of clearing my mind of negative thoughts, especially ones that don’t align with the truth of God. I confront the negative ones that pop up with the word of God ingrained in me, but the problem is that negative thoughts seem to pop up so often and so intensely. Fighting fire with water is great, but every time I stop a fire, a second and even bigger fire pops up. Getting out of my head, refusing to even fight the fires, and consequently clearing my mind helps so, so much. But lots of things I’ve read from Christian/Catholic sources warn about “clearing your mind.” In this way, I feel trapped :confused:

I’ve tried journaling, but it almost had the reverse effect on me. I became hyper-aware of any thought that would pop into my head and proceed to analyze it relentlessly. So, I’m looking for truth-filled ways to clear my mind, especially without looking to Eastern practices.

Of course I pray, and pray often, especially in times of distress, and Jesus has done so much in consoling me. But overwhelming thoughts still seem to fill my head. Understanding mindfulness—the psychological practice of simply being aware of the feelings I experience (but not analyzing them), the type of mindfulness that exists separate from Eastern religions— has been very helpful for me. I guess one of my main fears is meditation. If I understand it correctly (which it could be that I entirely do not), meditation is simply the practice of clearing away thoughts. But it’s the overwhelming amount of thoughts that causes me so much torment. So throughout the course of the day, I simply try not to think, and I feel way more present. But if I’m not thinking anything, then am I meditating? I mean I’m not sitting down in the cross-legged position and all that stuff, but just focusing on being present makes me mentally clear, alert, and ready to act out of love for others.

I’m just confused because there are so many ways people in general, Catholics included: “clear their mind”: exercising, playing games, talking with others, etc. Maybe I’m equating “clearing your mind” with “not consciously thinking”, and I might be wrong in this regard? Anyways, I’ve clearly developed a really nice mind trap for myself here 🙂 And I know there’s truth in the midst, I could just use a little direction. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks so much in advance!
 
Instead of clearing your mind, fill it with Jesus. Perhaps the Jesus Prayer would be helpful.
 
Instead of clearing your mind, fill it with Jesus. Perhaps the Jesus Prayer would be helpful.
I have tried the Jesus Prayer before. It is beautiful and simple and I wholly respect those who practice it and have mastered it, but it seems it’s not for me. Whenever I’ve tried the Jesus prayer, I just exhaust my mind. I only focus on the words rather than on what’s going on around me: people, class, etc. if that makes sense. Seriously I think it’s a wonderful prayer, it just doesn’t seem to be the best way I personally pray.

You do bring up an important point I maybe should’ve clarified, however: the distinction between “emptying” my mind and “clearing” my mind.

“Emptying” seems to be an attempt to rid the mind of absolutely everything: thoughts, knowledge, conscience, discernment of spirits, etc. This seems to be in tune with Eastern practice.

However, “clearing” my mind is an attempt to rid my mind of whatever I’m thinking about and prepare it solely for Jesus. It prepares me to serve others, it makes me present, and helps me have a clear conscience when it comes to discerning good thoughts from bad ones, wrong actions from right ones, etc. It makes my mind a blank slate, ready to go for God. “Emptying”, on the other hand, gets rid of the slate altogether.

Thoughts on this?
 
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My thoughts:-
Focus on the present moment, the task at hand. Example, if you are washing the dishes, focus on that and doing it well, keeping in mind that when we do everything for God we are bringing God into each moment of the day and thus keeping ourselves in the presence of God.

God is found in all moments of our day. The difficulty is sometimes seeing where He is in these - in moments of trial, suffering etc.

Saying a brief prayer for Gods’ help before making a decision, or performing any task.

These are just some ways in which to keep present in each moment of the day, in God’s presence throughout the day.

Offer prayers of ejaculation through out the day - My Jesus mercy, Have mercy on me a sinner, Help me Jesus - you get the idea I’m sure.
 
Bible says nowhere to be empty, to empty your mind.

It says to fill it with love and all good things.

Eg. ‘whatever is good, whatever is holy, whatever is kind, whatever is noble, think those things, and do them.’
St Paul said so in the bible ☺️

How about be grateful about each moment from God? Grateful for the friend in front of you, the dinner God gives you, the sun shining down on you, the clothes God gave you to wear? Etc
St Francis of Assissi found God this way, seeing God in everything that happened in his day

The bible says nowhere: be blank.
It actually says things like: ‘Rejoice always.’ ‘Pray always.’ ‘Praise God always in thanksgiving.’

One way of doing this is appreciating all of God’s
many gifts to you each day, As each opportunity presents itself to you ☺️
 
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Mr 6 trys to pray the rosary he also likes to say a handful of hail marys from time to time ( he does still get the words mixed up) he also encouraged me to do the divine mercy chaplet
Praying the rosary can take alot of concentration and meditation and normally helps if I’ve had negative thoughts
 
No doubt you are aware of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which is the gold standard in treatment for anxiety/OCD/Scrupulosity. Well-known Catholic counselor Dr. Gregory Popcak offers the treatment, as do many others. The therapy can even be received over the phone, if need be. I would place that first, as one must be in full control of their thoughts before attempting to seek mental and spiritual peace and tranquility.
 
No doubt you are aware of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which is the gold standard in treatment for anxiety/OCD/Scrupulosity. Well-known Catholic counselor Dr. Gregory Popcak offers the treatment, as do many others. The therapy can even be received over the phone, if need be. I would place that first, as one must be in full control of their thoughts before attempting to seek mental and spiritual peace and tranquility.
I will absolutely be looking into this! Thank you so much! Have you done it before or know anyone who has?
 
Bible says nowhere to be empty, to empty your mind.

It says to fill it with love and all good things.

Eg. ‘whatever is good, whatever is holy, whatever is kind, whatever is noble, think those things, and do them.’
St Paul said so in the bible 🙂

How about be grateful about each moment from God? Grateful for the friend in front of you, the dinner God gives you, the sun shining down on you, the clothes God gave you to wear? Etc
St Francis of Assissi found God this way, seeing God in everything that happened in his day

The bible says nowhere: be blank.
It actually says things like: ‘Rejoice always.’ ‘Pray always.’ ‘Praise God always in thanksgiving.’

One way of doing this is appreciating all of God’s
many gifts to you each day, As each opportunity presents itself to you 🙂
I couldn’t agree more that we need to be full of life and full of joy, full of all fruits of the spirit. I guess my question is are we really always thinking? And always thinking about these good things Paul lists? I mean, don’t we ever just shut those things out to focus on writing an email, taking in a sunset, or just having a quiet moment of doing nothing?

Maybe one way to explain it, especially with the sunset example (since I’m trying to enjoy the smaller things in life at the moment), is that when I see a sunset, I so often am thinking about the sunset—analyzing it, picking it apart—rather than simply enjoying it. And not to say that thinking about something good can’t be a good thing, but for me it’s strenuous for some reason. Maybe an even better way to put it: I feel like I have to make something out of it rather than simply let it be what it is.

This might be difficult to explain especially for someone who might not struggle with anxiety as much as this guy, but I feel like I always have to be thinking. Either that or in general I just feel like I’m always thinking. About something, someone, what’s going on around me, etc. It always feels conscious, rarely subconscious, and my head all too often feels uncomfortably full, trying to analyze and process everything. I guess that’s my main point. I want to be free to think about whatever I want (all the good things Paul lists), whenever I want (as much as possible). That’s why a “clear mind” makes sense to me, especially more than an “empty mind.”

Of course I’m not expecting anyone to have a Ph.D. in psychology here (if you do…bless your soul and I’d love to hear your thoughts). But as someone with fairly little psychological background knowledge, what are your thoughts on all of this?
 
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I remember hearing from someone on a cancer forum I help moderate that has undergone the therapy. Certainly do look into it, as you deserve to live in peace. The Lord greatly desires that you experience His peace.
 
I have found books written by Jean-Pierre de Caussade to be very helpful as well as books by Fr Jacques Philippe.

Books by Jean-Pierre deCaussade
The Sacrament of the Present Moment
Abandonment to Divine Providence

Books by Fr Jacques Phillippe
Searching for and Maintaining Peace
Interior Freedom
In the School of the Holy Spirit
Time for God
 
You don’t want to blank out your mind, but calming your mind is fine.

Sort of like turning down the volume on your thoughts—neither pushing away a thought nor following a train of thought.
 
You don’t want to blank out your mind, but calming your mind is fine.

Sort of like turning down the volume on your thoughts—neither pushing away a thought nor following a train of thought.
Yes! This might be a better way to put it.

Any suggestions, tips, or resources on how to do this?
 
I have found books written by Jean-Pierre de Caussade to be very helpful as well as books by Fr Jacques Philippe.

Books by Jean-Pierre deCaussade
The Sacrament of the Present Moment
Abandonment to Divine Providence

Books by Fr Jacques Phillippe
Searching for and Maintaining Peace
Interior Freedom
In the School of the Holy Spirit
Time for God
I LOVE “Searching for and Maintaining Peace.” I have it at home but I’m out of the country for about another month and dang I should read it again. I might have to buy another copy off Amazon for the time I’m here. I’ll check out your other suggestions too! Thanks so much!
 
I highly recommend Christian Self-Mastery by Basil W. Maturin when it comes to this topic.

Briefly, what he recommended to strengthen our minds are to trust it, to feed it well, and to train it.

One of the worst things Eastern philosophies have done to the Western mind, in my opinion, is the distrust of thoughts. Practices such as Eastern meditation and mindfulness encourage the indifference to thoughts to focus on the present senses, which leads to distrust in the former. This is in direct opposition to St Thomas Aquinas’ and the Scholastics’ teaching that the contemplation of truth is the highest form of joy.

Going to the example of the sunset, according to the teachings of the Scholastics, those who understand why sunsets are so beautiful, why the sun and sky becomes red, contemplates the truth about sunsets and this gives them more joy than those who are ignorant of it. So if you are analyzing why sunsets are such, you are enjoying sunsets more properly than those who just bask in them.

Therefore the proper way to take care of your mind is not to ignore it but to feed it well with good thoughts:
The emptying the mind of evil is not the first step toward filling it with good. It is not a step in that direction at all. If you succeeded in emptying your mind of every undesirable thought, what then? You cannot empty it and then begin to fill it with better thoughts. No, you must empty it of evil by filling it with good…

Therefore, the effort of the soul must be to fill the mind so full of healthy thoughts that there is no room for others — trying not so much not to think of what is evil as to think of what is good. The mind is ever working, never at rest. It will feed upon whatever food is given it. If it is given wholesome food, it will develop and grow strong. If it is given unhealthy food, it will grow morbid and sickly. If it is given no food, it will feed upon itself and wear itself out.
This is why the classical Western teachers teach much about reading good books and talking to great minds. Praying, ejaculatory prayers, and Christian meditation like lectio divina will also help with this.

Finally, we have to start using our mind rightly, and this we train our memories and imagination. The problem with most people is that memories are treated mainly as regrets and fears and sorrows. Our “bad” memories should never be used to determine what we should be doing, but how we should be doing things. In other words, memory should be our source not mainly of sorrow, regrets, nor fears, but wisdom.

Imagination, on the other hand, becomes for many people either a source of anxiety or a way to self indulgence, to escape reality. In fact, imagination is our faculty to peer onto the future, and thus it is our source of planning and initiative.
 
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Let me clarify something about what I meant by “trusting the mind”: what I meant by this is that, unless there are underlying psychological or psychiatric issues, there is no such thing as over-thinking. Thinking all the time is the natural action of the mind. Trying to control how much one thinks, or training oneself to stop placing so much attention to our thoughts like in Eastern philosophies, is trying to solve problems where there are no problems at all.

What do I mean by this? When healthy people move, they do not have to think how they move, they just move. It is only sick or injured people who have to think and plan how to move so as to conserve their energy and not injure themselves further. In the same way, when we have to plan how we think so that we do not “over-think”, we then treat “over-thinking” as some kind of disease, when in fact there is no such thing.

Eastern philosophies teach that we have to ignore thinking so that we could be in the present moment, and so with training our thoughts just go to the background. The classical Western philosophy and Christianity taught that thinking is normal and healthy, and so it just goes to the background because we do not worry about it. Eastern philosophy then for me is just so much fluff.
 
We all have intrusive thoughts sometimes and must let them go. Those with OCD have difficulty with that. To the degree that a person can direct the thoughts, the focus can be provided on having those thoughts be good.

“Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God.” (Matt 5:8)

Catechism
2563 The heart is the dwelling-place where I am, where I live; according to the Semitic or Biblical expression, the heart is the place “to which I withdraw.” The heart is our hidden center, beyond the grasp of our reason and of others; only the Spirit of God can fathom the human heart and know it fully. The heart is the place of decision, deeper than our psychic drives. It is the place of truth, where we choose life or death. It is the place of encounter, because as image of God we live in relation: it is the place of covenant.
 
“Lord Jesus Christ son of God
Have mercy on me, a sinner”

You can say the first line as you inhale, the second as you exhale as a way to literally breathe prayer, or just say it when you need to focus, gather yourself, etc.
 
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