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Who here actually throught a solar road was a workable idea?
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I have a friend that thought it was a terrific idea. I plan to share this. We’ve had an ongoing discussion since the initial videos of this project. The math never added up.
 
Rooftop is the only area where it makes sense to me,
or desert areas where the land has no alternate use.
 
I didn’t think of it. I am not sure what causes the climate to change and whether we have any saying in it. Some scientists say it is the life of the planet.
I do whatever I can though to recycle because pollution usually affects people in poorer areas of Earth where corrupted govts burn the junk that comes from the rest of the world. This is not to make the climate to change back but to not feed those garbage mountains that hurt other people. I don’t know if this actually helps more than my conscience. I do not. Not for sure at least.
Recently our local city councils removed recycling bins. Still green taxes are being paid. So…what is happening huh…
 
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Theo520 said:
Rooftop is the only area where it makes sense to me,

or desert areas where the land has no alternate use.
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Rooftop installation makes it difficult to repair the roof … desert locations require long cables [expensive / power losses] to transmit the electricity.
 
“I have not failed 10,000 times. I have not failed once. I have succeeded in proving that those 10,000 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."
-Thomas Edison
 
Rhubarb said:
“I have not failed 10,000 times. I have not failed once. I have succeeded in proving that those 10,000 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."

-Thomas Edison
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We don’t have the basic R&D for solutions that can be implemented (for this project goal). The money on the project was a guaranteed waste of money, much better if it had been funneled to basic research in our universities.
 

Thought it was worth sharing the original promotional video.

Someone also did a video on some of the problems that could have identified with a little bit of forethought and math.

 
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Don’t worry, they’ll work out the kinks, or more likely somebody else will work out the kinks. It’s easy to make fun of R&D when the you have unreasonable expectations. For example, the critics attacked the cost per kilowatt hour. Did they expect this project to start off producing cheap power? No, you don’t shoot for the moon on day one. First work on the engineering details on a small scale, try some things, see how they fail, and make it better. Could they have done it cheaper? Probably. Did they make some useful technological advances? Yes.
 
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The tech they used had zero chance of working, it was a boondoggle, people just using the free money for anything with a ‘green label’ on it.

As i already concurred, the money should have been put to actual research on developing new green energy technologies.

It’s like someone in the 1800’s getting funded to build a moon rocket, when we knew we didn’t have the supporting technologies developed yet that could make it possible.
 
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Could they have done it cheaper?
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A college physics course would have been cheaper, and through it they would have learned that what they were trying to do would never work as they expected. Knowledge on the amount of energy to melt ice would have shown them that the would not be able to use these to melt snow off the road (also during snow fall there’s not going to be direct sunlight to power these things). The electromagnetism part of physics would have shown them these panels will not be at an angle that allow them to maximize solar capture. There are several other problems that could have been identified just from speaking to a person that works in materials science. A conversation with someone in one of several fields would have informed them of why this won’t work.
 
Solar paths for bikes seem to be working and expanding in the Netherlands.
I do not know if it is comparable technology.
 
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graciew said:
Solar paths for bikes seem to be working and expanding in the Netherlands.
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Testing current technology on a bike path is far more appropriate of a first step than trying to survive semi traffic.

Incidentally, their tech failed as well, but they are trying again.
 
Rhubarb said:
“I have not failed 10,000 times. I have not failed once. I have succeeded in proving that those 10,000 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."
-Thomas Edison
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I don’t know for sure, but I suspect Edison didn’t use tax dollars.
If they want to spend their own money on this, God bless them if they can lower energy costs, and turn a profit too
 
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What the US (and Canada) need are better railway systems. That will cut down on flights and car trips.
 
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