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I don’t follow this comment, Europe has significantly increased their wood pellet imports because it is ‘green’
Our “retirement home” was built in 1980 with wood heat.

Works fine.

Back yard and side yards had tons of fallen branches. Also had to remove trees that endangered the house.

Harvested those from the wood lot for years. Used an electric chain saw.

One day received an irresistible offer for a new heat pump … asked for a propane burner insert. Some negotiation.

Works great.
 
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I thought they and the Japanese had found some way of safely recycling and reusing it? Sounds too good to be true, I know.
Reprocessing is normal all over the world.

Except … President Jimmy Carter outlawed reprocessing for the USA.
 
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CO2’s known properties will only cause 1C in warming with doubling
In case you haven’t seen this article it deals with the climate sensitivity question. It seems too simple to be true, especially in light of all the work done to come up with a value for this most crucial of questions. Nonetheless…

Erroneously, IPCC (2013, p. 1450) defines temperature feedback as responding only to changes in reference temperature. However, feedback also responds to the entire reference temperature. Climatology thus omits the sunshine from its sums and loses the opportunity to find, directly and reliably, the Holy Grail of climate-sensitivity studies – the system-gain factor.
 
In case you haven’t seen this article it deals with the climate sensitivity question. It seems too simple to be true, especially in light of all the work done to come up with a value for this most crucial of questions. Nonetheless…
Climate sensitivity is why I became a skeptic.

We know the impact from CO2 forcing - about 1C. And 35 yrs ago the additional feedbacks were estimated as adding between 0.5 to 3.5C in additional warming. This broad range is effectively a target like the broad side of a barn.

After over 35 yrs of intensive research the IPCC still hasn’t made any progress in narrowing down their accuracy on the feedbacks, they are still 0.5 to 3.5C in additional warming. If the science was sound, they should have made progress in tightening the range of their projections. What I still see is they don’t really understand feedbacks.

Thanks for the link, I’ll read it.
 
@Theo520 So what do you think is happening to the extra energy being trapped by greenhouse gases?
 
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@Theo520 So what do you think is happening to the extra energy being trapped by greenhouse gases?
I think the model assumptions are off and loads of extra energy aren’t being trapped. The actual energy being trapped is showing up in the modest increase in temperatures.
 
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I think the model assumptions are off and loads of extra energy aren’t being trapped.
I see. So there is a little bit of global warming happening but nothing to get upset about.
 
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I see. So there is a little bit of global warming happening but nothing to get upset about.
None of the highly qualified skeptics dispute we should see increased warming from higher CO2 levels, and this warming is showing up in the temperature data.

But the policy response to 1C in warming is very different than >3C in warming. The first one argues for adaptation while the later indicates the cost of prevention might be worth pursuing.
 
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It is easy to argue against wood when no one is arguing for it.
I don’t follow this comment, Europe has significantly increased their wood pellet imports because it is ‘green’
I mean no one is arguing in favor of it.
 
I suppose it’s part of the climate change narrative that temperatures have gone up and this will continue to accelerate - perhaps as a logical consequence of a growing global economy?
 
I mean no one is arguing in favor of it.
Of course there are people arguing for it. Given that (at least) Germany and the UK are actually doing it, someone must have been arguing for it, and have done so for some time now.


 
Where do the pellets come from, I wonder? Hasn’t Europe been deforested for centuries? Perhaps they’re recycled from old lumber from buildings and such?
 
Those bleepin’ so-and-so’s (then again I guess we are also selling it to them).
 
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