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Bio-fuels were always recognized by most environmentalists as a bad idea. So it is no surprise to see an article slamming it now. It never was a good idea. Do you have any record of Al Gore strongly supporting, ever?
 
Perfect example why politicians, especially those so invested in invoking carbon taxes to offset global warming, just cannot be taken seriously.

Video of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s entourage of large SUVs and vans leaving their engines idling for over two hours while Trudeau & gang are enjoying a $1600 / plate dinner to raise funds


Yeah, we ought to take their concern regarding carbon emissions very seriously. 😒
 
So the southern oceans are cooling, which contradicts model projections. Includes some whinging about Journals declining to be critical of the climate models 😲

wattsupwiththat.com

The Curious Case of the Southern Ocean and the Peer-Reviewed Journal

By Mike Jonas The Paper What seems like a very long time ago, I downloaded surface temperature data for the Southern Oceans to see if I could find, and learn anything useful from, the patterns of t…
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So the southern oceans are cooling, which contradicts model projections. Includes some whinging about Journals declining to be critical of the climate models 😲
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Interesting, especially this:

What was truly bizarre about the review of this particular paper is that the editor was complimentary about the paper (“ this valuable analytical work ”) and acknowledged that it was correct (“ you are right as current models have many serious problems because of their poor resolution and their crude parameterizations of key processes ”), but then refused publication saying quite openly that papers critical of the climate models were not needed because the models “ need to be taken seriously (as the IPCC does) even with a pinch of salt ”!

If accurate, this is incredible.
 
I have noticed for decades that cooler weather in the U.S. is almost always accompanied by hot dry weather in Australia, and vice versa.
 
I’ll have to say the governmental requirement for biofuels has had a positive effect on meat production. Hogs are fed now almost exclusively on grain by-products generated by alcohol production. When cattle are finished in feed lots, so are they.

Now that the rest of the world (it’s not just China) buys almost the entire American production of soybeans, the production of “distiller’s grain” has pretty much replaced them in all but poultry feed.

And as an aside, lower soybean prices presently are due to an extraordinarily large crop in 2018, not Chinese boycotts.
 
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This article reads like the complaints of a writer whose paper was rejected. So why should we believe him over the reviewers who rejected it?
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He quoted the reviewers, do you have evidence they said anything different?

It feels like you are deflecting again.
 
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LeafByNiggle:
This article reads like the complaints of a writer whose paper was rejected. So why should we believe him over the reviewers who rejected it?
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He quoted the reviewers, do you have evidence they said anything different?
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Did he quote the reviewer in their entirety? I don’t think we can judge the reviewers without seeing all of what they wrote.
 
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Did he quote the reviewer in their entirety? I don’t think we can judge the reviewers without seeing all of what they wrote.
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You are still deflecting.
  • Comment on the data and argument he shared.
  • Post another article that disputes his positions
  • OR JUST DON’T POST
 
Theo520 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Did he quote the reviewer in their entirety? I don’t think we can judge the reviewers without seeing all of what they wrote.
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You are still deflecting.
  • Comment on the data and argument he shared.
  • Post another article that disputes his positions
  • OR JUST DON’T POST
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Let me explain how this forum works. People post things. Other people post responses. They can choose to comment on any aspect of the subjects raised by the OP they want. Period.

The OP in this case is about an author whose work was rejected by a publication. It was about how unfair that review process was. I am commenting on the validity of that assumption.
 
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So the southern oceans are cooling, which contradicts model projections. Includes some whinging about Journals declining to be critical of the climate models 😲
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Apparently cooling of the southern ocean is not a new phenomenon.

climateaudit.org

Southern Ocean Temperature Trends

I pointed out a few posts ago that Antarctic temperatures had been declining during the period of satellite measurement.’ IPCC 4AR Second Draft says that “recent warming is strongly evi…
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Apparently fudging this fact is not a new phenomenon either.

So even though these oceans constitute a small portion of total ocean area and a relevant true statement could easily have been made, the statement is fudged (or is likely to have been fudged unless it’s coopered up). It’s the sort of thing that drives one crazy about IPCC.
 
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According to Steve, whoever he is…?
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And according to Comiso, Lebedev, and others. Whoever they are.

Comiso [8] evaluated the thermal infrared (TIR) data from the advanced very high resolution radiometer (AVHRR) for the period from 1979 to 1998 (20 yr data) to study the trends in surface temperature in the Antarctic region and found a slightly negative trend. The result was found to be consistent with the slightly positive trend in sea ice extent observed by Cavalieri et al. [9]. Using satellite remote sensing data from AVHRR over a period of 24 years from 1982 to 2005, Lebedev [10] has found a negative trend of SST over the entire Southern Ocean.
 
None of those fine folks drew all the outlandish conclusions that Steve did in his blog that you cited.
 
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