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Lochias said:
I think, on some level, that homosexuals do know that. I don’t know a single active homosexual who’s had a partner that lasted beyond a couple of months, and I know a few (many of my friends being in the theater biz).

Yes, homosexuals can be as kind and loving as the rest of us, but it doesn’t excuse the selfishness of their actions (if they choose to undertake those actions). Their actions directly affect me and my plans for the future, and the fact that many, MANY of them are loud, obnoxiously rude, and intrusive into my day-to-day affairs and plans means I can’t just live and let live. 🤷 They’re being selfish in many, many ways.
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So because none of the homosexuals that you know have had long term relationships they’re all selfish? Really? Well rest assured that there are many long term couples out there, some who have been together for decades and have children. (And being in theatre may have something to do with it. Many straight people struggle to maintain relationships with all the travel too.)

Gays as a whole are affecting your plans for the future? I would say that if that’s the case you should worry far more about your own life and less about the ominous gay threat. Something tells me that you don’t have a group of homosexuals following you around, butting in to your life, and ruining your plans. Of all the complaints I’ve heard about gays that one is the most unique.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
So because none of the homosexuals that you know have had long term relationships they’re all selfish? Really? Well rest assured that there are many long term couples out there, some who have been together for decades and have children. (And being in theatre may have something to do with it. Many straight people struggle to maintain relationships with all the travel too.)

Gays as a whole are affecting your plans for the future? I would say that if that’s the case you should worry far more about your own life and less about the ominous gay threat. Something tells me that you don’t have a group of homosexuals following you around, butting in to your life, and ruining your plans. Of all the complaints I’ve heard about gays that one is the most unique.
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Ahem…and when you used your generous gay friend as an example, you drew from that experience as well…
 
CrimsonThorn said:
Ahem…and when you used your generous gay friend as an example, you drew from that experience as well…
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But I didn’t use him to say that all are inherently generous. Only that its bigoted and wrong to paint everyone with the same brush.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Not all gays are adulterers; in fact, most of them aren’t, considering they aren’t married.

But all of them ARE fornicators unless they are chaste.
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I thought adulterers were anyone who has sex outside of marriage? Either by cheating or by pre marital sex.

I also define “gay” as a person who lives the lifestyle, so that implies current fornication.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
But I didn’t use him to say that all are inherently generous. Only that its bigoted and wrong to paint everyone with the same brush.
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The reason hes able to paint gays with the same brush is that they all share one thing in common: homosexual acts. Homosexual acts in and of themselves are always selfish, no matter the intent or emotion involved. All those who partake in selfish acts are selfish.

This also applies to straight people outside of marriage as well, obviously.
 
CrimsonThorn said:
I thought adulterers were anyone who has sex outside of marriage? Either by cheating or by pre marital sex.

I also define “gay” as a person who lives the lifestyle, so that implies current fornication.
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Definition of ADULTERY: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery
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adrift:
Alright, so all adulterers are fornicators but not all fornicators are adulterers, gotcha.

Let me rephrase my initial statement:

All fornicators are selfish, straight or gay.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
So because none of the homosexuals that you know have had long term relationships they’re all selfish? Really? Well rest assured that there are many long term couples out there, some who have been together for decades and have children. (And being in theatre may have something to do with it. Many straight people struggle to maintain relationships with all the travel too.)

Gays as a whole are affecting your plans for the future? I would say that if that’s the case you should worry far more about your own life and less about the ominous gay threat. Something tells me that you don’t have a group of homosexuals following you around, butting in to your life, and ruining your plans. Of all the complaints I’ve heard about gays that one is the most unique.
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Blue,

It matter not who I know or who you know that is or is not together. The Gay agenda is to redefine “marriage” and here redefine “monogamy”…If you know someone that has a relationship so what…here is what is happenning.

aflame.blog.co.uk/2011/02/09/the-myth-of-gay-monogamy-a-gay-man-speaks-out-10549413/
I have experienced some form of infidelity or abuse in EVERY relationship without exception. Either I was being cheated on, or the person I was dating was actually cheating on their partner and not being truthful about it. Partners have also all been abusive to varying degrees. I have yet to encounter one man who has been different. In the gay scene I have seen countless examples of this in other gay people’s lives. It has always made me sick to my stomach. Where is the love? What are gay relationships built on? Sexual gratification or love?
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The survey further found that 94 percent of married people and 75 percent of cohabiting people had only one partner in the prior year.2 In contrast, long-term sexual fidelity is rare among GLB couples, particularly among gay males. Even during the coupling period, many gay men do not expect monogamy.
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mercatornet.com/articles/view/open_monogamy
The recently published Gay Couples Study conducted by Colleen Hoff at the Center for Research on Gender and Sexuality, San Francisco, looked at the relationships of 566 committed gay couples (males) over a three-year period. The study showed that 47 per cent of gay couples had “sex agreements” that specifically allowed sexual activity with others. An additional 8 per cent of couples were split: one person favored sex outside the relationship and the other expected monogamy. Only 45 per cent described their relationships as monogamous.
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Proponents of “marriage equality” sing their refrain over and over: “Our relationships are just the same as yours.”
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Not even close. While just 7 per cent of Americans believe that adultery (sexual infidelity by married, heterosexual partners) is morally acceptable, Dr Hoff’s report emphasizes that nearly 50 per cent of gays in committed relationships specifically affirm sexual infidelity. Other research shows shockingly higher rates (75-95 per cent) of non-monogamy in long-term gay relationships.
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CopticChristian said:
Blue,

It matter not who I know or who you know that is or is not together. The Gay agenda is to redefine “marriage” and here redefine “monogamy”…If you know someone that has a relationship so what…here is what is happenning.

aflame.blog.co.uk/2011/02/09/the-myth-of-gay-monogamy-a-gay-man-speaks-out-10549413/

factsaboutyouth.com/posts/monogamy/

mercatornet.com/articles/view/open_monogamy
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Yes yes, I know the old arguments. But that is not what I’m talking about at all, and I’m not going to derail this thread. If you want a discussion or debate about gay monogamy my inbox is open. The statements here have been that gays are selfish, and by virtue of being gay more likely than straight people to trick someone in to surrogacy and steal their children. That’s what I have an issue with.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Yes yes, I know the old arguments. But that is not what I’m talking about at all, and I’m not going to derail this thread. If you want a discussion or debate about gay monogamy my inbox is open. **The statements here have been that gays are selfish, and by virtue of being gay more likely than straight people to trick someone in to surrogacy and steal their children. ** That’s what I have an issue with.
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Blue,

Forgive me. I understand.

Let me see. Homosexuals, in my opinion, are heterosexual that choose to act out their desires that appear to me to be self serving and selfish insofar as the only purpose of any of the sexual activity is ordered towards pleasure and nothing else. Pleasure without purpose is self serving and then I would agree that gay’s are selfish. Is that better?
 
BlueEyedLady said:
But I didn’t use him to say that all are inherently generous. Only that its bigoted and wrong to paint everyone with the same brush.
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TheRealJuliane said:
Not everything is on line.

🤷

Whatever.
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BlueEyedLady said:
So somehow you have secret knowledge of the situation enough to make a disparaging assumption? Even though it hasn’t been published by the press?
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So it is o.k. for you to use secret knowledge even though it hasn’t been published by the press?
 
adrift said:
So it is o.k. for you to use secret knowledge even though it hasn’t been published by the press?
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Are you saying it’s secret knowledge that everyone is different and should not all be judged by the actions of one person?
 
adrift said:
So it is o.k. for you to use secret knowledge even though it hasn’t been published by the press?
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And furthermore, I didn’t make accusations against someone specific like TRJ did with absolutely nothing to back up said allegation. It appears that her statement was little more than an uncharitable assumption.

But yes, I think that there are a lot of wonderful, generous homosexuals in the world and calling them all selfish or saying that they are more predisposed to tricking someone in to surrogacy and stealing a baby because they are gay is wrong. If you want me to find reports of gay people being generous and good to demonstrate that I’m sure I can.

I can’t believe that’s a controversial point of view to have.
 
interestedman said:
lol, what are you talking about? Just because your gay friends are jerks doesn’t mean they all are jerks.
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I find it very, very interesting that you assume they were jerks. Personal experiences clouding your bias much? Why would you assume this?
 
Lochias said:
I find it very, very interesting that you assume they were jerks. Personal experiences clouding your bias much? Why would you assume this?
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Maybe because you went on a rant about how selfish, loud, obnoxious, intrusive, and rude they are?
 
CopticChristian said:
Pleasure without purpose is self serving and then I would agree that gay’s are selfish. Is that better?
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All of humanity is selfish to some degree. I think all of us have the tendency to place our self interests first and foremost much of the time. That’s not to say many if not most humans don’t act selflessly at times.
 
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