Collecting signatures for a letter to The Guardian that answers accusations against the Church and Pope Benedict

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The Guardian has published a letter that condemns teachings of the Church and accuses Pope Benedict, signed by celebrities, scientists, and other people of influence in the UK.
A letter will be sent in response, clarifying what the Church teaches and thus supporting the Pope and his visit that starts tomorrow.

Here is the link if you’d like to add your name.

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It amazes me how many Catholics they site that are against the CC. how can this be?

i couldnt find the letter.
 
Thank you!

I follow this blog and am so pleased the author is doing something to help. The media has gone absolutely nuts here and every day brings some new insight on how evil the church is.
 
wisdomseeker said:
It amazes me how many Catholics they site that are against the CC. how can this be?

i couldnt find the letter.
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Is the link working?
The letter follows the statement of the celebs. You just put yur name in the comment box and it will be added to the letter posted later on today.
 
I don’t thiink its working, I read the letter but the sign box isn’t working? Is it me?
 
I’ve signed. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to do something. The audacity of these people leaves me speechless.
 
The letter published in the Guardian is wonderfully ironic. It claims to show care for the spread of AIDS, for the victims of abuse, and so on. yet all the signatorees are steeps in their own agendas.

For Dawkins & Blackmore to be anti-faith, yet promote the concept of “memes”, a wholly unproven idea that requires no small amount of faith!

Then there is the collection of gay-rights activists. The ironry there is that it is gay insistence on the non-consequence of sex that has led to tens of thousands of young people being coersed into sexual activity, with the resultant spread of STDs, abortions, and use of the ‘morning after’ pill. The condom, so activity promoted as the answer to all ills, appears to have as much regard in the West as elsewhere.
And can we really believe that the humanists and secularists who have joined the above really care about the issues raised when they are more than happy to hi jack the tragedy of such events as an excuse to promote their own, preferred views? Is this not yet more abuse of the abused?

Sadly, Stephen Fry & his friends are unlikely to gain in-sight in the near future. The nature of the totaliartian forbids it, even when it reaches self-parody levels!

Perhaps no so much wonderfully ironic, as tragically so since the influence of Fry, Dawkins et al is greater than the total sum of their worth.
 
philial said:
The letter published in the Guardian is wonderfully ironic. It claims to show care for the spread of AIDS, for the victims of abuse, and so on. yet all the signatorees are steeps in their own agendas.

For Dawkins & Blackmore to be anti-faith, yet promote the concept of “memes”, a wholly unproven idea that requires no small amount of faith!

Then there is the collection of gay-rights activists. The ironry there is that it is gay insistence on the non-consequence of sex that has led to tens of thousands of young people being coersed into sexual activity, with the resultant spread of STDs, abortions, and use of the ‘morning after’ pill. The condom, so activity promoted as the answer to all ills, appears to have as much regard in the West as elsewhere.
And can we really believe that the humanists and secularists who have joined the above really care about the issues raised when they are more than happy to hi jack the tragedy of such events as an excuse to promote their own, preferred views? Is this not yet more abuse of the abused?

Sadly, Stephen Fry & his friends are unlikely to gain in-sight in the near future. The nature of the totaliartian forbids it, even when it reaches self-parody levels!

Perhaps no so much wonderfully ironic, as tragically so since the influence of Fry, Dawkins et al is greater than the total sum of their worth.
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I happen to personally like Fry. As a performer and commentator, at laeast. He is very witty and knoeldgeable about certain things. He also did a magnificent portryal of Oscar Wilde in a movie. But I agree with you that he is part of the pro-gay rights agenda and should have his criticism answered with a letter explaining Church policy.
I’m glad this thread was started. I’ll get to going on the site and adding my name.
 
I just went on to the blog to sign the letter, but it seems that - probably within the last few minutes - the letter has been sent.

Anyway, I hope it is printed - they have plenty of signatories and it is a well-written response to the original letter. If the newspaper does not print the letter with the full list of signatories, then I suggest that the primary author re-send the letter respectfully urging the editor to publish it in full in the interests of providing balanced opinion (which it presumably claims to do). I have done this on a number of occasions to papers with success:)
 
I too am an admirer of Stephen Fry and have always thought him an erudite and charming man but I despise the vehemence of his hatred of Catholics, for this is what the campaign he has allied himself with is.

Mr. Fry is homosexual and he is an atheist. Fine. He is not breaking the law and his views are valid and sacrosanct. I would not argue with him nor try to convert him. He is is own sovereign person with free will. However, as Catholics, our human rights are being violated. We are not alone in stating our beliefs but we seem to be taking the flak for the beliefs of all religions and especially the monotheistic religions. I have never heard one voice decry the Dalai Lama because he doesn’t DO or SAY anything controversial.

Just pray for his Holiness during his visit here and for all of us Catholics in the UK. There are so many lies being spread that it almost feels like we’re back in reformation times. It seems that if the atheists had their way we may have “priest holes” again!
 
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However, as Catholics, our human rights are being violated. We are not alone in stating our beliefs but we seem to be taking the flak for the beliefs of all religions and especially the monotheistic religions. I have never heard one voice decry the Dalai Lama because he doesn’t DO or SAY anything controversial.

Just pray for his Holiness during his visit here and for all of us Catholics in the UK. There are so many lies being spread that it almost feels like we’re back in reformation times. It seems that if the atheists had their way we may have “priest holes” again!
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Lucy,
I feel the same way. The anti-Catholic campaign has been really scary. I went to greet the Holy Father earlier (I’m in Edinburgh) and was seriously nervous, expecting all sorts of violent outbursts. But nothing happened. People were cheerful, excited. One policeman told us to cheer loudly in case someone starts shouting abuse. It seems that the media has managed to scare us but luckily, things are not as bad.
People who really hate God are still a minority. They are loud but not so powerful as they’d like to think.
I believe that we Catholics should be more vocal and not hide our faith. It is so easy to dismiss us if we don’t speak up.

Afterwards I remained in town and saw a few protesters - some young people wrapped in rainbow flags. I felt kind of sorry for them. They must feel very insecure.
 
Contra_Mundum said:
Lucy,
I feel the same way. The anti-Catholic campaign has been really scary. I went to greet the Holy Father earlier (I’m in Edinburgh) and was seriously nervous, expecting all sorts of violent outbursts. But nothing happened. People were cheerful, excited. One policeman told us to cheer loudly in case someone starts shouting abuse. It seems that the media has managed to scare us but luckily, things are not as bad.
People who really hate God are still a minority. They are loud but not so powerful as they’d like to think.
I believe that we Catholics should be more vocal and not hide our faith. It is so easy to dismiss us if we don’t speak up.
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It was inevitable that there would be some protestors, but I think that despite all the media-stirred hype there weren’t all that many. I think you’re quite right that Catholics need to find their voices again and not hide their faith - the Pope’s visit to the U.K., while more tense than say World Youth Day, is a good opportunity to do this. Unfortunately, what we have seen recently is that there are many who go about shouting about free-speech and tolerance, but very often it seems it only applies as long as Catholics keep their mouths shut! I’m glad you got to see the Holy Father today… I fervently hope a trip to Ireland will be on the cards soon, maybe for the Eucharistic Congress in 2012.
Contra_Mundum said:
Afterwards I remained in town and saw a few protesters - some young people wrapped in rainbow flags. I felt kind of sorry for them. They must feel very insecure.
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I heard about this in an online newspaper report earlier this afternoon - apparently a few of those carrying the rainbow flags also had vuvuzelas blaring…I think this is most inconsiderate to say the least. Imagine, these are the very people who are calling for tolerance of their particular beliefs or moral codes, yet they cannot respect the right of a sizeable and significant religious group to have its “day out” in peace. A silent protest, if they really had to protest at such an event, would have been infinitely more dignified.
 
Wasn’t the papal Mass wonderful? I was there in spirit with you in Edinburgh and I cried and prayed and sang along the Mass on TV this evening. It was wonderful. Now we go on to London, I pray that the media is put to shame again.

As for His Holiness’ comments on modern secularism and the Nazis well, I don’t think anyone was expecting that but it is the truth.
 
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had to protest at such an event, would have been infinitely more dignified.

Yes, very true. The intolerance on their part is really sad. The kids who were there just seemed so young, they probably don’t get it, they’re just angry that people dare challenge their lifestyle.
 
Saintlucy said:
Wasn’t the papal Mass wonderful? I was there in spirit with you in Edinburgh and I cried and prayed and sang along the Mass on TV this evening. It was wonderful. Now we go on to London, I pray that the media is put to shame again.

As for His Holiness’ comments on modern secularism and the Nazis well, I don’t think anyone was expecting that but it is the truth.
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It was great. I wish I could have gone to Glasgow 😦
I also cried and prayed, it was so wonderful to see all those people. A friend texted me before it started and said that the atmosphere was amazing, so full of joy. I’m sure that the rest of the trip will be as good.
 
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