College Course Lumps Homosexuality, Rape, Murder

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The Franciscan University of Steubenville in Ohio faces questions about its accreditation because of a course description that links homosexuality with crimes like murder, rape and robbery.
The university’s social work program offers the course, called SWK 314 Deviant Behavior. The course description reads: “The behaviors that are primarily examined are murder, rape, robbery, prostitution, homosexuality, mental illness and drug use.”
Members of a Franciscan University gay and lesbian alumni group on Facebook discovered the course description and have asked the school to change it.
Kudos to the Franciscan University for calling a spade a spade. I hope they will not back down in the face of bullies.
 
Kudos to the Franciscan University for calling a spade a spade.
How can sexual orientation be, in any way, equated with violent crime? Doesn’t seem to jive with the spirit of CCC 2358. Based on the description alone (in its entirety) it seems that the entire course is complete bunk. How “structural conditions in society” foster, for example, mental illness? :ehh:
 
Sodomy is one of the sins that cry out to heaven.

Also, a mind that is disordered in at least one way is likely to be disordered in other ways.
People don’t usually have only one problem.
 
How can sexual orientation be, in any way, equated with violent crime? Doesn’t seem to jive with the spirit of CCC 2358. Based on the description alone (in its entirety) it seems that the entire course is complete bunk. How “structural conditions in society” foster, for example, mental illness? :ehh:
Disordered sexual orientation is the sin de jour, but it is still a sin (if acted on, obviously). It is an act against the 10 Commandments, just as the others are.
 
Disordered sexual orientation is the sin de jour, but it is still a sin (if acted on, obviously). It is an act against the 10 Commandments, just as the others are.
Ok, then why not drop it into a course dealing exclusively with, for lack of a better term, thought crimes? Sexual orientation is in no way similar to rape and murder.
 
Disordered sexual orientation is the sin de jour, but it is still a sin (if acted on, obviously). It is an act against the 10 Commandments, just as the others are.
Since when have we added mental illness as a sin though?
 
Ok, then why not drop it into a course dealing exclusively with, for lack of a better term, thought crimes? Sexual orientation is in no way similar to rape and murder.
Acting on unnatural proclivities drives unlawful behaviors. They’ve included drug use, probably for the same reason. Should also include uncontrolled alcoholism which drives many crimes–although maybe they’re lumping that in with drug abuse.

Also maybe uncontrolled habitual gambling, unusual risk taking activities probably also
belong here.
 
Ok, then why not drop it into a course dealing exclusively with, for lack of a better term, thought crimes? Sexual orientation is in no way similar to rape and murder.
It’s a course on deviant behavior, not crime. All mentioned behaviors are deviant though not necessarily criminal in the eyes of civil law.
 
It’s a course on deviant behavior, not crime. All mentioned behaviors are deviant though not necessarily criminal in the eyes of civil law.
I would buy that. By its title you can see that it’s in the social work department. It’s a class on deviant behaviors in society.
 
Since when have we added mental illness as a sin though?
Didn’t say that it was 😉

We must be wary of the “psychologization” of sin, though. Mainly because it misses the point. I have a genetic predisposition to sin XYZ. So what? We are rational and religious beings. Fight the urges.
 
Ok, then why not drop it into a course dealing exclusively with, for lack of a better term, thought crimes? Sexual orientation is in no way similar to rape and murder.
Homosexuality is not a thought crime, it is an action.
People don’t understand that homosexuality is not who you are, but rather what you do.
It is a sin, because it is an action.

Same Sex Attraction is not homosexuality
 
Didn’t say that it was 😉

We must be wary of the “psychologization” of sin, though. Mainly because it misses the point. I have a genetic predisposition to sin XYZ. So what? We are rational and religious beings. Fight the urges.
But the college course description has that in there and you lumped all of the other staments in that description in with your response.
 
But the college course description has that in there and you lumped all of the other staments in that description in with your response.
Ahhh, I got ya.:o

Such was not my intention. Thanks for bringing it up.👍
 
I would buy that. By its title you can see that it’s in the social work department. It’s a class on deviant behaviors in society.
I think this is the central point of the controversy. The alumni who are objecting state that homosexuality is not a deviant behavior. The university, in contrast, says the term “deviant” means “different from the norm,” which suggests a value-neutral approach.

I dunno… I think any criticism of this course would be more believable after the course has been taught, at least once. Judging courses based on their description in a catalog is a dicey endeavor.
 
People don’t understand that homosexuality is not who you are, but rather what you do. Same Sex Attraction is not homosexuality
If you are attracted to the same sex then you are a homosexual. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation; there is no action that is exclusively homosexual in nature.
 
If you are attracted to the same sex then you are a homosexual. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation; there is no action that is exclusively homosexual in nature.
Honestly, you should know from reading these boards long enough now that homosexuality is considered the acting upon same sex attraction in the Catholic viewpoint. Acting in any sexual manner based upon same sex attraction is a sin in the eyes of the Church. Either way it is said here, you have seen it and are trying to impose what you and those with homosexualist agendas would like things to be seen like. Not working hon.
 
Honestly, you should know from reading these boards long enough now that homosexuality is considered the acting upon same sex attraction in the Catholic viewpoint.
I’m aware of what members post on this board. Whether it is factual is another matter entirely.
 
Academic freedom is academic freedom.

The liberals only want freedom to do their thing.
 
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