Colorado School bans rosary beads

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traillius said:
foxnews.com/us/2012/09/15/colorado-school-seizes-rosary-beads-from-student-calls-them-gang-symbol/

Absurd and upsetting. Oh, and I can’t help but wonder why the current administration isn’t speaking out on things like this, given that they are “disgusted” ( Hillary Clinton ) by attempts to offend religious groups.
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I am wondering where they can point to gangs wearing rosaries. technically, you aren’t suppose to wear a rosary as a neckless because it is not a piece of jewelry but that is besides the point. I am sure if a Muslim girl wanted to wear the head scarf, she would be protected. It does point to a double standard but he should not be wearing the rosary and maybe keep it in his pocket instead. Wearing a rosary as a neckless does state to others that this is another piece of jewelry to be wore and others seeing that may think this who have no desire to pray the rosary at all.
 
The vast majority of people who wear rosary beads don’t do it for a religious reason.

Most people who have a devotion to the rosary spend more time praying it then wearing it.

In my area, none of the people who wear rosaries are Catholic. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to make it against the rules to wear them. If it is against the rules, maybe less young people would stop wearing them for the wrong reasons.
 
Many people in my area wear rosaries. And they are Catholic.

In fact, there are a number of Catholic suppliers that sell rosary necklaces, which are rosaries with a clasp.
 
The cronicle of the Catholic Church in Lithuania, a samizdat of the events of the Catholic people in Lithuania reported very often how rosaries were confiscated from students during the Soviet period. It was part of their ‘athiest work.’
 
If they are banning rosary beads then what about buhdist prayer beads? This reminds me of what went on in some European countries (eg Switzerland - no minarettes, France - no hijabs etc). At times it seems all religion is under attack from the secular world.
 
robwar said:
I am wondering where they can point to gangs wearing rosaries. technically, you aren’t suppose to wear a rosary as a neckless because it is not a piece of jewelry but that is besides the point. .
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It’s very common in the Hispanic community and in Colorado and not at all disapproved by the Church. I am from Colorado, I wear a Rosary - not as jewelry, of course. But the same way I wear my medals.

This is incredibly stupid, IMO, and I hope some lawyer offers to take this case, but, well, Colorado never got over Columbine. Because a wrist Rosary or chaplet often has 13 Aves, and 13 was associated with gangs, so they have this association with Rosaries generally.

Still stupid. But I understand it.
 
I sometimes wear my rosary beads because I want to pray them but have no pockets to put them in,I don’t lose them if they are around my neck! It is my weapon against satan and I try to carry it everyday.Every one has thier resons why they wear the but not all have good reasons to wear them. have a great day!🙂
 
The title of this thread is very misleading, they are not banning the Rosary.

If you read the article, you would see they are dictating how it can be worn. Which he shouldn’t be doing anyway (as other posters have stated).

From the article. “Crespo claims the school gave Vigil two options before confiscating the beads. She said administrators asked him to either take them off or put them inside his shirt.”

Unfortunately, the rosary has become a gang symbol in some areas. Just because it isn’t being used that way in your neighborhood doesn’t mean it isn’t happening in someone else’s.
 
In area’s of the pacific NW, public schools are clamping down on a number of things. Hats, certain “colors” and wearing rosary beads are more a sign for gang affiliation than what there intended purpose is. Sad, but the schools don’t have much choice but to ban them if they want to minimize gang influence and activity. Many of our schools are going to simplified dress codes, some uniforms, and it appears to be improving the school as a whole. I look at it as one less distraction for kids and there are way too many distractions in the public school system.
 
carmlrose said:
I sometimes wear my rosary beads because I want to pray them but have no pockets to put them in,I don’t lose them if they are around my neck! It is my weapon against satan and I try to carry it everyday.Every one has thier resons why they wear the but not all have good reasons to wear them. have a great day!🙂
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I always carry a Rosary in my pocket, not around my neck. I make it a point to have clothes with pockets.

I can sort of see the reason why the schools ban the wearing of Rosary beads, what with gangs and all. And especially in Colorado, what with the memories of the Columbine High School massacre and all.

I wonder if these kids KNOW what a Rosary is-that it’s NOT A PIECE OF JEWELRY, BUT A HOLY SACRAMENTAL!
 
robwar said:
I am wondering where they can point to gangs wearing rosaries. technically, you aren’t suppose to wear a rosary as a neckless because it is not a piece of jewelry but that is besides the point. I am sure if a Muslim girl wanted to wear the head scarf, she would be protected. It does point to a double standard but he should not be wearing the rosary and maybe keep it in his pocket instead. Wearing a rosary as a neckless does state to others that this is another piece of jewelry to be wore and others seeing that may think this who have no desire to pray the rosary at all.
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twopekinguys said:
The title of this thread is very misleading, they are not banning the Rosary.

If you read the article, you would see they are dictating how it can be worn. Which he shouldn’t be doing anyway (as other posters have stated).

From the article. “Crespo claims the school gave Vigil two options before confiscating the beads. She said administrators asked him to either take them off or put them inside his shirt.”

Unfortunately, the rosary has become a gang symbol in some areas. Just because it isn’t being used that way in your neighborhood doesn’t mean it isn’t happening in someone else’s.
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Both of you should explain that “technically” the bold statements are simply your opinion and that many hold a different opinion.

There is nothing wrong with wearing a rosary.
 
barb_finnegan said:
I always carry a Rosary in my pocket, not around my neck. I make it a point to have clothes with pockets.

I can sort of see the reason why the schools ban the wearing of Rosary beads, what with gangs and all. And especially in Colorado, what with the memories of the Columbine High School massacre and all.

I wonder if these kids KNOW what a Rosary is-that it’s NOT A PIECE OF JEWELRY, BUT A HOLY SACRAMENTAL!
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Does putting it in ALL CAPS make it true?

If so, YES YOU CAN WEAR A ROSARY, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
 
robwar said:
I am wondering where they can point to gangs wearing rosaries.
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How about in San Antonio.
“The use of colored rosary beads and other religious articles have also
been noted.”

It has more to do with the color of the object, than what the object is.

Things like shoe laces, hair ribbons, barrettes, tennis shoes, jackets, hats, rubber bands, etc. can all show gang affiliation, no matter how innocent the item may be.
 
maryjk said:
Both of you should explain that “technically” the bold statements are simply your opinion and that many hold a different opinion.

There is nothing wrong with wearing a rosary.
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Here is an answer from the Ask an Apologist forum.

*Q: Can a rosary be worn as a piece of jewelry?

A: “Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons” (CIC 1171).

Essentially, sacramentals such as rosaries must be treated with respect, particularly if they have been blessed. Reverence is the attitude of awe or respect that is most often given to sacred things. By its very definition, it is an interior disposition that usually cannot be determined by onlookers by appearances alone. A person may be wearing a rosary as a statement of faith, to keep it handy for praying throughout the day, or to avoid losing it. Those reasons would be indicative of reverence and would not interfere with the canon’s directive that sacramentals must be treated reverently.

Ordinarily speaking, then, if someone is spotted wearing a rosary, he should be charitably presumed to be wearing it for just reasons. Only if the rosary is being put to an objectively sordid use (e.g., a rock star is using it as a prop in a music video, obscenely contrasting the symbolic purity of the rosary with the immodest or immoral actions of the performers) can we be sure that the rosary is being treated irreverently (source, scroll to Q&A #3). *

In my opinion, if it is ok for a rosary to be worn as a necklace, why don’t we seen nuns, priests, and the Holy Father doing it?
 
Gang members wear Rosary Beads. It’s a well known fact among law enforcement agencies. I’m with the schools on this one. Zero Tolerance is the only way to deal with gang activity in the schools.
 
twopekinguys said:
Here is an answer from the Ask an Apologist forum.

*Q: Can a rosary be worn as a piece of jewelry?

A: “Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons” (CIC 1171).*

Essentially, sacramentals such as rosaries must be treated with respect, particularly if they have been blessed. Reverence is the attitude of awe or respect that is most often given to sacred things. By its very definition, it is an interior disposition that usually cannot be determined by onlookers by appearances alone. A person may be wearing a rosary as a statement of faith, to keep it handy for praying throughout the day, or to avoid losing it. Those reasons would be indicative of reverence and would not interfere with the canon’s directive that sacramentals must be treated reverently.

Ordinarily speaking, then, if someone is spotted wearing a rosary, he should be charitably presumed to be wearing it for just reasons. Only if the rosary is being put to an objectively sordid use (e.g., a rock star is using it as a prop in a music video, obscenely contrasting the symbolic purity of the rosary with the immodest or immoral actions of the performers) can we be sure that the rosary is being treated irreverently (source, scroll to Q&A #3).

In my opinion, if it is ok for a rosary to be worn as a necklace, why don’t we seen nuns, priests, and the Holy Father doing it?
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In my opinion, is the key statement here. It is a personal opinion.

Do I wear a rosary? Nope, most of the ones I own, won’t fit over my head, and the ones that would are very heavy and would not be comfortable.

But that doesn’t mean that others couldn’t own ones that are a perfect fit.

(I got married and had a child, I don’t see the Holy Father, priests or nuns doing that. It must be wrong.)
 
Lost_and_Found said:
Gang members wear Rosary Beads. It’s a well known fact among law enforcement agencies. I’m with the schools on this one. Zero Tolerance is the only way to deal with gang activity in the schools.
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin

Gangs wear rosary beads. John wears a rosary. John is a gang member. :rolleyes:

That only works if only gangs wear rosary beads. But that isn’t true, many very devout people wear rosaries.
 
maryjk said:
In my opinion, is the key statement here. It is a personal opinion.

Do I wear a rosary? Nope, most of the ones I own, won’t fit over my head, and the ones that would are very heavy and would not be comfortable.

But that doesn’t mean that others couldn’t own ones that are a perfect fit.

(I got married and had a child, I don’t see the Holy Father, priests or nuns doing that. It must be wrong.)
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The last line that started with “In my opinion”, was in fact my opinion. The rest was from Ask and Apologist.

Just so you know, there are validly ordained, married priests, that have children, and are currently serving. I also know of several nuns that have children also. (widows who joined), so unfortunately, your premise fails.

The kid, by his own admission was wearing it for the wrong reason. Wearing a rosary is not protection, it will not protect you.

Rosaries are not fashion items, and they are not something magical to protect you from harm.

He was wearing it for the wrong reason.
 
carmlrose said:
I sometimes wear my rosary beads because I want to pray them but have no pockets to put them in,I don’t lose them if they are around my neck! It is my weapon against satan and I try to carry it everyday.Every one has thier resons why they wear the but not all have good reasons to wear them. have a great day!🙂
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I wear my rosary beads for the same reason (although usually tucked inside my blouse). I always want to keep it nearby so that I can remember to pray when I get the chance to do so.
 
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