Colorado School bans rosary beads

  • Thread starter Thread starter traillius
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
maryjk said:
Both of you should explain that “technically” the bold statements are simply your opinion and that many hold a different opinion.

There is nothing wrong with wearing a rosary.
Click to expand...
Because the rosary is a sacramental and wearing it around the neck implies a secular use of a sacramental. Whether the person believes in praying in it or not, wearing the rosary around to neck implies to others that it is another piece of jewelry. That is why you see gangs or rock stars wearing them and not priests and nuns. Sorry but this is not just my opinion and stating “nothing wrong with wearing a rosary” is just that.
 
twopekinguys said:
The last line that started with “In my opinion”, was in fact my opinion. The rest was from Ask and Apologist.

Just so you know, there are validly ordained, married priests, that have children, and are currently serving. I also know of several nuns that have children also. (widows who joined), so unfortunately, your premise fails.

The kid, by his own admission was wearing it for the wrong reason. Wearing a rosary is not protection, it will not protect you.

Rosaries are not fashion items, and they are not something magical to protect you from harm.

He was wearing it for the wrong reason.
Click to expand...
And the quote from Ask an Apologist said that “A person may be wearing a rosary as a statement of faith, to keep it handy for praying throughout the day, or to avoid losing it. Those reasons would be indicative of reverence and would not interfere with the canon’s directive that sacramentals must be treated reverently.”
Your opinion then negated what AAA said. 🤷

How many priests and nuns do you know that get married and have children? Not ones that used to be married. I didn’t used to be married. I got married. :rolleyes: My point was that just because you haven’t seen the Pope do it, doesn’t make it wrong. (Add to the fact that many nuns wear rosaries.)
Delaine75 said:
I wear my rosary beads for the same reason (although usually tucked inside my blouse). I always want to keep it nearby so that I can remember to pray when I get the chance to do so.
Click to expand...
Be careful admitting that. People here will think you are in a gang.
robwar said:
Because the rosary is a sacramental and wearing it around the neck implies a secular use of a sacramental. Whether the person believes in praying in it or not, wearing the rosary around to neck implies to others that it is another piece of jewelry. That is why you see gangs or rock stars wearing them and not priests and nuns. Sorry but this is not just my opinion and stating “nothing wrong with wearing a rosary” is just that.
Click to expand...
Yes, it is your opinion. A rosary around the neck MAY imply that is it just another piece of jewelry, or it may be a handy place to have it so the person is always ready to pray. It may be a reminder to pray. Or to look to God for help. Or any number of things. To say you know why someone is wearing a rosary is disingenuous at best.
 
robwar said:
I am wondering where they can point to gangs wearing rosaries. …
Click to expand...
I can see some truth in this claim. In the early '60s, I saw a girl wearing a St. Christopher medal, and I remarked that I didn’t know she was Catholic. She told me she wasn’t and was wearing it because she was a surfer. I asked what the connection was, and she said some rock group wore them . In the late '80s, another rock group wore Mercedes-Benz hood ornaments, and every teenager had to have one. I lost three to that fad. So Rosaries are not that far-fetched, but I can’t help feeling there is more than a little bit of anti-Christianity behind their ban.
 
(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

Oh my, Blessed Mother Teresa is wearing a rosary. I never knew she was a gang member. :rolleyes:
 
maryjk said:
And the quote from Ask an Apologist said that “A person may be wearing a rosary as a statement of faith, to keep it handy for praying throughout the day, or to avoid losing it. Those reasons would be indicative of reverence and would not interfere with the canon’s directive that sacramentals must be treated reverently.”
Your opinion then negated what AAA said. 🤷

How many priests and nuns do you know that get married and have children? Not ones that used to be married. I didn’t used to be married. I got married. :rolleyes: My point was that just because you haven’t seen the Pope do it, doesn’t make it wrong. (Add to the fact that many nuns wear rosaries.)

Be careful admitting that. People here will think you are in a gang.

Yes, it is your opinion. A rosary around the neck MAY imply that is it just another piece of jewelry, or it may be a handy place to have it so the person is always ready to pray. It may be a reminder to pray. Or to look to God for help. Or any number of things. To say you know why someone is wearing a rosary is disingenuous at best.
Click to expand...
Eastern Catholics can get married and become priests. Good enough? The nuns of course “were” married. Remember, Catholic doesn’t mean just Latin Rite.

Nuns wear rosaries, but not around their necks like jewelry. 🤷

My opinion negated nothing. 🤷

If you want to wear a Rosary around your neck, have at it, but it is not the proper thing to do. It is a sacramental, and not a fashion statement or piece of jewelry.

Just because little Johnnie down the street does it, doesn’t make it right. If little Johnnie jumped off a cliff, would you?

Doing things like this, no matter how well intentioned, slowly tear away at the reverence these items should be shown.
 
traillius said:
foxnews.com/us/2012/09/15/colorado-school-seizes-rosary-beads-from-student-calls-them-gang-symbol/

Absurd and upsetting. Oh, and I can’t help but wonder why the current administration isn’t speaking out on things like this, given that they are “disgusted” ( Hillary Clinton ) by attempts to offend religious groups.
Click to expand...
I don’t know what part of the US you live in, but I was born and raised in Chicago until I was in my late 30s and the fact that street gangs identify rivals by rosaries (and other gang identifiers incluing different colored hoodies) is very old news. So I’m not surprised, and in complete support of, banning rosaries from schools. It’s not jewelry anyway. Keep them at home and at Church. You’re getting mad at the wrong people. Getting mad at school officials for trying to keep students and teachers safe is misplaced. Blame it on the gangs that use rosaries (and other identifiers).
 
twopekinguys said:
I’m guessing you don’t understand anatomy very well. Do you know where the neck is? Do you see a Rosary there?

Is she wearing it as a necklace?

🤷
Click to expand...
So it is okay to wear it, just not as a necklace? :rolleyes: How about as a bracelet? Or an eyeglass holder? I’ve seen shirts with a rosary printed on it. Is that okay?

And where can I find all of the rules for a rosary? A link to a Church document would be nice.
 
I wear a rosary because it’s convenient to carry so I can pray anywhere easily.

Since they are banning rosaries does anyone know where I can get a black inverted cross to wear as Catholic bling?
 
Lost_and_Found said:
… Zero Tolerance is the only way to deal with gang activity in the schools.
Click to expand...
No, no, no, it isn’t. Zero tolerance policies have a way of getting out of hand. Such a policy would eventually send a second-grader to prison for life for mere possession of a rosary that she was carrying for her catechism class after school. Zero tolerance policies should be named what they are: intents to persecute.
 
robwar said:
Because the rosary is a sacramental and wearing it around the neck implies a secular use of a sacramental. Whether the person believes in praying in it or not, wearing the rosary around to neck implies to others that it is another piece of jewelry. That is why you see gangs or rock stars wearing them and not priests and nuns. Sorry but this is not just my opinion and stating “nothing wrong with wearing a rosary” is just that.
Click to expand...
One wears a brown scapular around the neck. Some religious wear a scapular out openly in their habit. Are you going to tell me that wearing a brown scapular around their neck is okay but not a rosary worn around the neck by a lay person isn’t?

The problem I have with people who are against wearing rosaries out openly are judging the interior heart of the person by saying they treat it as jewellery. Only God can read thoughts.
 
wavejim said:
In area’s of the pacific NW, public schools are clamping down on a number of things. Hats, certain “colors” and wearing rosary beads are more a sign for gang affiliation than what there intended purpose is. Sad, but the schools don’t have much choice but to ban them if they want to minimize gang influence and activity. Many of our schools are going to simplified dress codes, some uniforms, and it appears to be improving the school as a whole. I look at it as one less distraction for kids and there are way too many distractions in the public school system.
Click to expand...
Hats, certain symbols, and certain color combinations (along with droopy drawers and midriff tops, etc) have been banned by my school district for years. We do have serious gang problems in certain parts of the district. I don’t know for sure if rosaries (or the fake rosary looking fashion necklaces) are banned.

In any case, everyone I know who wears a rosary as a devotion, wears it inside their clothes (like a scapular) and only brings it out when they are ready to pray. I have worn my rosary like that many times.

It seems like the boy in the article would do well to be enrolled in the Confraternity of the Brown Scapular and pray the rosary on his fingers during lunch.
 
maryjk said:
So it is okay to wear it, just not as a necklace? :rolleyes: How about as a bracelet? Or an eyeglass holder? I’ve seen shirts with a rosary printed on it. Is that okay?

And where can I find all of the rules for a rosary? A link to a Church document would be nice.
Click to expand...
Great strawman you’ve built there.

But, since you brought it up, you evidently missed the part in my post where I said, “Doing things like this, no matter how well intentioned, slowly tear away at the reverence these items should be shown.”

You probably also missed the part in the earlier post where Rowbar talked about it.

Keep building those strawmen!!
 
Matthew 6:5-6
5.And when ye pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites, that love to stand and pray in the synagogues and corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men: Amen I say to you, they have received their reward.
6.But thou when thou shalt pray, enter into thy chamber, and having shut the door, pray to thy Father in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret will repay thee.
 
twopekinguys said:
Artistic representation vs real life photography. Not a good comparison.
Click to expand...
Well don’t recall there being photography in the 1600’s when the good saint was alive. What does it matter anyway? It clearly illustrates a rosary being worn around the neck. And shocker…it’s a picture that the Church diseminates. You’d think the Vatican would know that wearing a rosary was sacraligious…apparently they aren’t as smart as some people on CAF.:rolleyes:
 
*Be careful admitting that. People here will think you are in a gang. *

I simply stated that gang members wear Rosary Beads. I didn’t say that everyone who wears Rosary Beads are members of a gang as you’ve implied I have. I love the Rosary and pray 15 decades a day…everyday, faithfully. But I’ve also had quite a bit of experience with gang members wearing Rosary Beads. Gang violence in our larger cities is a major problem where rival members are killed just for wearing their colors. I commend these schools for trying to stop this violence in our schools before it starts.
 
Dawnia said:
Well don’t recall there being photography in the 1600’s when the good saint was alive. What does it matter anyway? It clearly illustrates a rosary being worn around the neck. And shocker…it’s a picture that the Church diseminates. You’d think the Vatican would know that wearing a rosary was sacraligious…apparently they aren’t as smart as some people on CAF.:rolleyes:
Click to expand...
1.Again, artistic representation vs real life photography.
  1. 1600’s vs 21st century. Whole different set of social values don’t you think?
  2. The church has spoken on it. Maybe you missed this on page 1.
Q: Can a rosary be worn as a piece of jewelry?

A: “Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons” (CIC 1171).
  1. From the Diocese of Sioux Falls.
I would say the Church has spoken plenty.

“No item having a sacred character is to be sold at auction or otherwise placed in a situation where misuse is possible.”
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top