Columbus Day Has Been A Federal Holiday Since 1934, Maine and Vermont have renamed "Indigenous People Day"

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I don’t see America holding Saint Patrick’s day because of separation of church and state . It has never been a holiday and may some day be gone. If it were not for business like valentines day, it would be gone. Unfortunately, It has taken a turn for the worse in most major cities. Small local parades are ok.

Columbus has a chance. It is a national holiday and he is recognized. It really is the only day that is seen as more Catholic.
There have always been those who want both events gone. It has gotten worse in the last ten years. The fight goes on.
 
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Like I said I’m all for celebrating it. Just don’t have it as a federal holiday. If it’s just something progressives are going to change the name of and delight in bashing Columbus then what’s the point of a federal holiday if we can’t even agree on who or what is being celebrated or what to name it.
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I agree. Columbus Day isn’t used as a way to bash indigenous people and any new Indigenous Day (which should be separate) shouldn’t be used to bash European history either.

It is interesting that one mindset is positive and non judgmental while the other mindset is critical and divisive.

In Australia there is always low level media attacks on the Christian aspect of Easter and Christmas as well as more forceful media attacks for both ANZAC and Australia Day.

ANZAC day (Australia and New Zealand Army Core) is to commemorate fallen soldiers and Australia Day is held on the day of British settlement (26th January). Both are continually criticized as supporting war and European invasion which is preposterous. It seems to be a co-ordinated attack to remove any recognized societal links to western culture and history, especially to do with Christianity.

The main force in this endevour is the state broadcaster ABC, which is the equivalent of the British BBC and virtually a tax funded fiefdom.

Their constant anti Western antics are really p^^^^^^ Australians off.

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Different country, same issue. Figures attached to European history are constantly attack including war statues.

Columbus was never an issue. The prominent protestants states never celebrated but basically left the states that did celebrate it alone.
Within the last 10 years the statues are constantly attacked as well as the holiday. It could be a combine attack of protestants (some groups are anti-catholics) and anti Euro groups. No idea but the attacks are rampant
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The alcohol I have not seen, sure some are drinking.

What bothers me is when you see the Knights of Columbus carrying the statue of the Virgin Mary at the beginning of the parade later followed by gay pride groups.

I still attend but choose to go to local parades that are smaller where the statue of the Virgin Mary still leads the parade but everything else is just a parade with lots of green.
 
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We have no Easter Monday parade and really not much to gather the Irish together except Saint Patrick. I now have an 8 year old granddaughter who does Irish step dancing at events during March which is fun.
I agree as time goes on,the next generation will have less interest in the Irish heritage.
 
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No Easter parade and don’t ever remember one. I lived near Boston and as a child South Boston was an Irish stronghold but that has since dissolved. The Irish seem scattered but manage to get together for Saint Patrick’s. Maybe that is why I still attend a local small parade.

Strangely the Italian North End is still very strong as is Federal Hill in Providence.
 
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My dad was in the hiberians so we would often see many Irish magazines. and newspapers. Since his death that has stopped.

Very little Irish identity except my immediate and extended family some who travel to Ireland occasionally. Nephew lived there for awhile.
There are still many Irish pubs but never been in one to see if there are Irish.

There are some in my family that have Irish spouses so they may carry on a bit longer with traditions. Often in the suburbs of Boston the town’s would be a mix of Italian, French and Irish which intermarried. Combine that with the English and that was the northeast. Today there are many latin Americans immigrants. There has been great change in a short time.
 
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Actually, there are still a number of Irish born immigrants in the US. My son’s good friend, Liam’s dad is from Ireland and owns a pub. I assume it’s authentic, because we don’t live in a huge tourist area but a smaller town.

Thera are still many immigrants from Ireland. The actress Saoirse Ronan was born in the Bronx actually.
 
Most people have no problem with Indigenous Peoples day. They will see your article as propaganda. You would be cast out today for even suggesting that the indigenous people did human sacrifices and cannibalism was a practice of many.

The generations now and to come will go to wikipedia as a full source, the history books can be rewritten. You see that by this attack on Columbus Day. Many families did not pass on oral history and that history can all be written off. My dad was so Irish on everything, I have become less so and each generation loses that heritage.

Most people don’t even realize the Knight of Columbus was an Irish fraternal group at it founding.
 
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I remember the first time I visited a village pub in Ireland it was very disorienting - there was carpeting on the floor and the entertainment was provided by a guitarist singing Simon and Garfunkel songs! I was flabbergasted (but had a good enough time). In some ways it looked more like a dentist’s office’s waiting room than a pub.
 
And there was not a traditional Irish musician or instrument in sight, I should add.
 
Yes, there were. So if we celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day, I’m not sure if we’re celebrating Navaho, Sac and Fox, Cherokee, Apache, Cheyenne, Sioux, Chickasaw, Hopi, or even Aztec.
 
Is this for “restitution”?

And if it is, what are you doing for “restitution” from the Caribs killing and eating the explorers?

What are you paying to the descendents of the explorers?

And what are you paying to the descendents of the Caribs too for that matter?

(You were the one that suggested we should be making full restitution to these descendents.)
 
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