SDA2RC;6992313:
I agree that our rest in Jesus is to be 7 days a week, without a doubt. Jesus told us to search the scriptures daily.
(Exo 31:13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel,
saying, Verily my sabbaths
ye shall keep: for** it is a sign between me and you** throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
(Exo 31:16)** Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath,** to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
(Exo 31:17) ** It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever**: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed…
Please notice the parts that I have bolded above… God specifically said that it was a sign between He and the Children of Israel. You cannot simply insert yourself into this covenant because you want to follow the Sabbath. If you understand scripture than you know that the New Testament clarifies the Old. We find in the New Testament a very different Idea than what you had. Even the Jews of the Old Testament had a very different idea than what you have.
BTW… the verses you quoted also state that anyone who works on the Sabbath shall be put to death! When was the last time you put someone to death for working on the Sabbath? Why dont you do this? If you believe that this passage is binding on you and me… why have you not killed anyone working on the Sabbath like this passage says? It seem to me that you are picking and choosing what you want to be applicable to you! This is the problem with your position!
**Please answer, why do you not kill people who work on Saturday like God commands in this passage? **
Please note that your position is also different than that of the Jews, as noted in the Midrash:“The Sabbath-keepers who are not circumcised are intruders, and deserve punishment,” (; Deut. R. i. and Ma’ase Torah, ed. Schönblum; see also Hippolytus," Refutatio, Omnium Hæresium," ix. 21).
Read more:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=514&letter=C&search=circumcision#ixzz0xdtGJz2D"The Jews believed that for one to keep the Sabbath they must be circumcised… Since Paul taught there was no need for circumcision it effectively answered the Sabbath question. Jews were actually offended if Non-circumcised people tried to keep the Sabbath and wanted them punished.
The seventh day is Holy and Blessed. Did God now change his mind after the resurrection of Jesus and change the day to Sunday as the Holy and Blessed day. i don’t read this in scripture .
Then you need to keep reading Scripture and begin to understand the doctrine of the Church and the Covenants. Your premise is that because God said that his Sabbath was a perpetual sign with Israel and throughout their generations that it must still be in effect because he wouldnt change His mind?
Lets examine that a little,
please answer the following questions:
*]If the Sabbath will endure forever because it is called “eternal” then won’t all the Jewish feasts and circumcision also endure because it is also called eternal in Gen 17:10-14 (same Hebrew word used)
*]If the Sabbath will endure forever because it is called “holy” then won’t all the Jewish feasts also endure forever because they are also called holy?
*]If the Sabbath will endure forever because God hallowed it, then won’t Solomon’s temple Ps 65:4; 1 Ki 9:3 and the vessels in the tabernacle Ex 40:9; Num 31:6; 1 Ki 8:4 also endure forever because God hallowed them too?
*]If the Sabbath will endure forever because it was an eternal sign between God and his people, then shouldn’t we also still practice circumcision Gen 17:11 and Passover Ex 12:13 because it too is called an eternal sign between God and his people?
Please answer these questions… and explain why you selectively apply traits to the Sabbath.
The above verse was written at least 40 years after the crucifixion. The key words here are “according to the commandment”. It doesn’t read" according to the commandment that was
". Therefore, the Sabbath day of rest and worship during the time of Luke were being obeyed.
No one is arguing against the idea that the Jews Kept the Sabbath at least until the day of Pentecost and many possibly afterwards… But we are not Jews and we are Christians. What I said was that No Christians are commanded to recorded as observing the Sabbath. As far as Paul preaching on the Sabbath… um… yea he did! But preaching on the Sabbath is not what is commanded in the 4th Commandment, scripture never records Paul or any other Christians as observing the Sabbath as day of Rest.
Many sabbatarian preachers will preach or teach on Sunday - Friday… that doesnt mean they are keeping those days as a Sabbath. Thats just silly.
As a side note the Sabbath will be observed in the new heavens and the new earth…(Isa 66:22-23) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Craig, Craig… you need to read the entire passage and study it more… LOL
Don’t be too hasty to apply Isaiah’s vision to Heaven, LOL, it is about the Maccabeus time 200-164 BC the rebirth of Jewish independence in their land and the rebuilding of the temple after the exile.;
Is 66:20… They will bring …horses and Chariots, in litters, on mules, on camels to my Holy Mountain Jerusalem.
Is 66:21… I will choose priests and LEVITES.
Do you really believe that we are going to bring Horses, chariots, on mules and camels to heaven and Levites in Heaven? Really?
Please note.
Levites ended with John Lk 16:16
If you are correct and we put 2 commandments together would there not be 11 commandments instead of 10 ten?
And they always and entirely reflect the law that was handed down to Moses. No one is trying to submerge parts of it.