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Shiranui117
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Do you have some of those on-hand, out of curiosity?
I’m too lazy to provide quotations, but repentance of sins and striving for virtue is a common point. As is humility.
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I’m too lazy to provide quotations, but repentance of sins and striving for virtue is a common point. As is humility.
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TRH1292
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tonyfish58
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Not being very good in English at school had to look that word upSyncretists seek to find commonality and minimize distinctions. This thread was started for a reason - it’s a soapbox.
So to all that have this same issue! 
Syncretism /ˈsɪŋkrətɪzəm/ is the combining of different, often seemingly contradictory beliefs, while melding practices of various schools of thought. Syncretism involves the merger and analogizing of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths
I do not wish to be drawn into a debate.
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Randy_Carson
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Tony-
You, Servant19, daler and others have done nothing but debate for more than 5,000 posts spanning five threads.
However, neither do I. I’ll leave you to your discussion with others.
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tonyfish58
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It appears we just may have, a Love for Humanity that knows no Boundaries
You have made the point you wish to make, do you wish to post to this thread as to its intent?
If not I will leave you to your devices from this point forward
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tonyfish58
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TRH1292 - That is the spirit intended for this thread. Of course others can think the worst.
But if the words you have posted are true, that is “The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and good in other religions”, where is the harm in exploring the good?
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travissbeloved
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The key word there is TRUE and good. Truth has to be first always. The Truth in love.
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tonyfish58
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I have no argument against you belief
Jesus is Christ & Christ is who you want Him/know Him to be.
My sincerity for the love of Christ is just that sincere.
Yes, I also have that Love for other Prophets, are we back on topic soon?
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tonyfish58
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Yes it does say found in Other Religions, thus…
Sorry I am off to work in the land down under. The next quotes we shall provide will be on the topic of Love
Regards Tony
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IgnatianPhilo
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One thing that I think is good in the three major “Abrahamic” religions (unlike others, Bahai, Hinduism and bhudism) is that Christianity, islam and Judaism totally affirm ressurection as something that will happen at the end of time in which God will literally raise everyone from death to ever lasting life.
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openmind77
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Actually this is something I never understood. Correct me if I am wrong - Christians believe that after death, the person either is condemned to eternal hell or he goes through a period in purgatory and then proceeds to eternal heaven. I assume what is in heaven is the soul of the person and this soul is not dead in any way.
So what exactly is supposed to happen at the end of time? His decomposed, rotten, physical body is resurrected? Does this renewed physical body form another person or does this body go to meet the soul now in heaven and gets joined with the soul (presumably people in hell do not get resurrected).
Hindus and Buddhists believe the soul is immortal and does not need a physical body to be in heaven (and that there is no eternal hell). Also, I thought Bahai was an Abrahamic religion.
So what exactly is supposed to happen at the end of time? His decomposed, rotten, physical body is resurrected? Does this renewed physical body form another person or does this body go to meet the soul now in heaven and gets joined with the soul (presumably people in hell do not get resurrected).
Hindus and Buddhists believe the soul is immortal and does not need a physical body to be in heaven (and that there is no eternal hell). Also, I thought Bahai was an Abrahamic religion.
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travissbeloved
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Our souls will get our renewed bodies back at the second coming if we are in Heaven. If we are alive at the second coming we don’t have to go to purgatory though which I always thought was kind of a perk. We get judged right on the spot and get our everlasting body. That sounds kind of nice actually.
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IgnatianPhilo
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Its a misconception I think brought on by popular imagery and culture, that is we are are really leaving our bodies and becoming spirits. That has never been the Christian, jewish or islamic belief, rather its a temporary abode until the end of time when all is ressurected and judged. You can see the basis for this belief in verses like Daniel 12.
In terms of the bahai are their “Abrahamic” (i dont like the word as I believe that word is only for the Christian religion) nature, they deny alot of what Jews, Christians and muslims accept and reinterpret those concepts, like ressurection. To the bahai (like the platonist) the body is something which must be escaped from and it isn’t fitting that it should be the house of the soul for all eternity. Christianity on the other hand sees the ressurection of Jesus as refuting such notions, that God created the body good and he will not let his creation (which is fundamentally good) seep into corruption.
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openmind77
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Thanks but I am still confused. Heaven will now be full of people with physical bodies? Or will this everlasting physical body be running around on earth?
Your soul real wants a physical body and is not immortal by itself? The soul is somehow lost without the physical body and has been living unhappily in heaven until the end of time waiting anxiously to get its body back?
When is the end of time for souls in heaven ? - I thought there was no time is heaven? Can you have physical bodies without time?
Maybe this thread is not the place to ask these questions. But these are really strange beliefs.
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travissbeloved
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A soul is still immortal by itself but it is complete with a body.
We are never unhappy in Heaven. We are just awaiting the rest of our brothers and sister to join us in the last days and then we will receive our bodies back as well.
The bible says we will not know the hour when the Lord will come again so we don’t know when the Final Judgment will happen.
You could have physically perfect bodies that live on forever without time yes, because that is what God intended for us and he is God and quite frankly can do whatever he wants.
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openmind77
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OK, so you won’t go to hell, purgatory or heaven after death. You are left sitting in your rotting,smelly body until the end of time when you will get resurrected?
Is that really the teaching of the Catholic Church?
What happens if your body is destroyed in a fire or something, where do stay until the day of Judgment.
Also if you don’t believe in resurrection, you are not Abrahamic?
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IgnatianPhilo
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Um, no. I do not believe our souls are attached to the body forever, rather there is a period between death and the ressurection in which we have no body but more or less exist as non-physical entities. There is a judgement which does occur in this time and we could call that heaven and hell, but that is not the end nor is it the final judgement which will take place during the last days when all the dead (righteous and unrighteous) will be raised and be blessed or condemned.
I am not a roman catholic but the orthodox church more or less agrees with rome on this issue minus puragatory.
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openmind77
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I think IgnatianPhilo is saying something different - that we still remain the dead body till the Day of Judgement.
BTW, what if you don’t particularly like this body, will you get a better one?
If you are waiting for something heaven, then it is not a perfect place, it is lacking in something. Apparently that something is a physical body - will this body have the normal functions of a physical body - breathing, sweating, excretion, hunger etc? If not, what exactly is physical about it?
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openmind77
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So those people who are now in heaven (a non-eternal one, I guess) will go through a second judgement (at the end of time) and could still be condemned?
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IgnatianPhilo
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I won’t claim to know what the life inbetween is like, I tend to lean towards the idea we receive a fortaste of our ultimate destination. Ultimately however yes, you will be judged in the final judgement and ressurection.
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