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passus
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That is not allowed. According to the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, nobody is to approach the altar before the priest has received Holy Communion (162).
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Trishie
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Does your priest think that Celiac disease is passed on if you receive from the chalice? Perhaps he needs to be given medical assurance that it is genetic and cannot be passed on if a Celiac receives from the chalice. Some people are unable to feel comfortable around illness. Celiac disease is a genetic autoimmune illness just as is Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Perhaps he confuses it with totally unrelated virus autoimmune illness?
I find the priests in my parish to be very considerate. I also am Celiac
I find the priests in my parish to be very considerate. I also am Celiac
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WatchfulPilgrim
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I wasn’t aware of that, and apparently neither are the priests at either or these parishes.
Wait a second. When I was receiving the gf host I did the same thing, and that priest wouldn’t allow me to receive at all until he cleared everything with the bishop. This was the arrangement he made with the bishop, so I’m certain it was not a problem, unless the bishop doesn’t have the authority to make that change (?)
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I really don’t think so. Afterall, he has no problem putting the host in my mouth, so I don’t think he thinks I’m contagious or anything.
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Indeed, the Bishop does not have the authority to change anything in the *GIRM *except where it allows him to make that adaption. The instance regarding who may approach the altar and when is not provided for, to my knowledge.
In addition, certain adaptations are indicated in the proper place in the Missal and pertain respectively to the diocesan Bishop or to the Conference of Bishops, in accord with the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy (25).
usccb.org/liturgy/current/chapter1.shtml
Also, (gf = gluten free?) there is no such thing as a gluten free host, which would constitute invalid matter to be consecrated and therefore would not become Jesus. Only a low-gluten host constitutes valid matter for consecration.
From the Bishops’ Committee on the Liturgy *Newsletter *(now called the Bishops’ Committee on Divine Worship *Newsletter) *(November 2003):
- Hosts that are completely gluten-free are invalid matter for the celebration of the Eucharist.
- Low-gluten hosts (partially gluten-free) are valid matter, provided they contain a sufficient amount of gluten to obtain the confection of bread without the addition of foreign materials and without the use of procedures that would alter the nature of bread.
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WatchfulPilgrim
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Yes - sorry. I should have specified low-gluten. I’m just so used to using gf as shorthand for the stuff I eat. Everywhere else throughout this thread I did indicate that it was low-gluten.
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maryjk
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Simply standing in line for only the Chalice may be difficult. To get to the Chalice at our parish you must go either past the Host or kind of swim upstream past the people returning from Communion.
The best thing to do, is to talk to your Priest. He knows traffic flow, where a non-Presider’s Chalice ends up and can remind ministers that receiving from the just the Chalice is the same as receiving just the Host.
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dnar
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Someone asked a very interesting question today…if the bread really becomes the body of Christ…how can people be allergic to the body of Christ?
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Seatuck
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Because the accidents of the bread remain and they contain the allergen.
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dnar
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I don’t really know how to explain this very well because I am a new Catholic and all, and I appreciate the link you gave, it was insightful.
I truly believe that Jesus is present, I was by no means denying that. I just couldn’t think of an answer.
Thanks, again. God Bless.
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passus
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What Seatuk said. It’s the same way people can contract a virus by drinking the Blood of Christ from the chalice or potentially get “drunk on Jesus” (literally!) the same way.
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Seatuck
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I understand totally. You’ll notice I didn’t use my own words to explain it.
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hhdavid
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Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I’ve been offline for a few months. Stupid economy.
Anyway, Watchful Pilgrim, thanks so much for the links to the Catholic Celiac Society. I talked to my bishop and my parish priest, and was receiving from the cup, but still getting sick. Of course, I wasn’t the first in line for the cup, and others who had partaken of the Host had taken the cup before me. So I’m going to those links and print some things off and make an appointment with my priest to figure out what can be done.
I came back to the Church after a very long absence. My love of the Eucharist is what brought me back home, and I’ve had a very hard time dealing with this, as I was only back in Church 3 months when I found out in Feb. of this year that I have Celiac disease.
I’m very blessed in that my priest is trying to work with me, and he wants me to be able to receive and not be sick.
Thanks for all the information. I really appreciate it.
In Christ,
Helen
Anyway, Watchful Pilgrim, thanks so much for the links to the Catholic Celiac Society. I talked to my bishop and my parish priest, and was receiving from the cup, but still getting sick. Of course, I wasn’t the first in line for the cup, and others who had partaken of the Host had taken the cup before me. So I’m going to those links and print some things off and make an appointment with my priest to figure out what can be done.
I came back to the Church after a very long absence. My love of the Eucharist is what brought me back home, and I’ve had a very hard time dealing with this, as I was only back in Church 3 months when I found out in Feb. of this year that I have Celiac disease.
I’m very blessed in that my priest is trying to work with me, and he wants me to be able to receive and not be sick.
Thanks for all the information. I really appreciate it.
In Christ,
Helen
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Seatuck
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Helen. I can see how difficult this is for you . I am sorry you are suffering this difficulty and for everyone else who is as well. I have prayed for you .
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hhdavid
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Oh, thank you, Seatuck! That means so much to me! I really appreciate that. And I also want to thank you and everyone else on this thread for the wonderful information that’s been given here. I was very depressed about this at first, 
but I am getting a better outlook on this day by day, with His help, and the help of the Blessed Mother. You are all in my prayers, as we are not in this alone. 
Anybody know of a Patron Saint for Celiacs? We need one! How about St. Charles Borromeo?
catholicceliacchildren.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-patron-saint-of-celiacs.html
Or, St. Patrick, since Ireland has the highest rates of celiac disease of any country in the world. (Where my paternal grandmother was from. She was probably an undiagnosed Celiac.)
In Christ,
Helen
but I am getting a better outlook on this day by day, with His help, and the help of the Blessed Mother. You are all in my prayers, as we are not in this alone. Anybody know of a Patron Saint for Celiacs? We need one! How about St. Charles Borromeo?
catholicceliacchildren.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-patron-saint-of-celiacs.html
Or, St. Patrick, since Ireland has the highest rates of celiac disease of any country in the world. (Where my paternal grandmother was from. She was probably an undiagnosed Celiac.)
In Christ,
Helen
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