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Hi, a friend of mine told me he was sexually abused by a man we both know. I know my friend is not lying about this. I am just wondering if I should inform the mans priest of this claim against him? Can he as a catholic who has not confessed to sexual abuseing someone which is a sin be allowed to receive communion? If not, I must to everything in my power to make sure the man does not defile the holy body and blood by taking it while under sin.
 
Hi, a friend of mine told me he was sexually abused by a man we both know. I know my friend is not lying about this. I am just wondering if I should inform the mans priest of this claim against him? .
you should inform the police. If he has some active ministry in the parish, especially anything that brings him in regular contact with children yes you must inform the priest. Bear in mind the state of his soul or whether or not he confesses is none of your business, but the safety of children and other parishioners is most definitely your business if you have reason to believe he is a threat. Not to report him to the authorities is to compound and abet the crime.
 
Hi, a friend of mine told me he was sexually abused by a man we both know. I know my friend is not lying about this. I am just wondering if I should inform the mans priest of this claim against him? Can he as a catholic who has not confessed to sexual abuseing someone which is a sin be allowed to receive communion? If not, I must to everything in my power to make sure the man does not defile the holy body and blood by taking it while under sin.
How do you know the person is “under sin” or has not confessed?
 
Has the Priest reported to police this info if admitted during confession??
 
Has the Priest reported to police this info if admitted during confession??
The Priest can take no further action on what he hears in the confession, the Confessional Seal is sacred, and can not be broken under ANY, I repeat ANY circumstance.

Your friend should inform the Police, not the Priest of his allegation.
 
I am completely confused.

Why hasn’t your friend reported him to the police, or to the parish pastor? Your reporting it is only here say evidence–you have no way to know if the accusation is true or not. Bearing false witness is a sin, although if the accusation is false, this is on your friend, not you. But I would not run-off to the police half-cocked, without talking to your friend first. The best thing would be to encourage your friend to report the incident to the proper authorities. Your report would not likely be something the police could act on. You might want to have a very private meeting with the parish pastor to let him know what you were told. In any event, your friend is going to have to come forward.

The accused’s taking communion in a state of mortal sin endangers him; it does not defile the Sacrament for everyone else. I don’t get your reasoning here.

The priest, while he can withhold absolution as a tool to get the offender to turn himself in, cannot, under sanction of Canon Law, reveal the content of a penitent’s confession to anyone else. He can be defrocked for doing so.
 
The Priest can take no further action on what he hears in the confession, the Confessional Seal is sacred, and can not be broken under ANY, I repeat ANY circumstance.

Your friend should inform the Police, not the Priest of his allegation.
Shame.

A Priest with first hand kwowledege that a young boy was raped, should just stay quiet.

Simply immoral.
 
Shame.

A Priest with first hand kwowledege that a young boy was raped, should just stay quiet.

Simply immoral.
You call yourself a “Catholic, by the book no exceptions” but obviously you want SOME exceptions.
 
You call yourself a “Catholic, by the book no exceptions” but obviously you want SOME exceptions.
Thank you, yes in protecting children.
So how is calling for a priest to break the seal of the confession being “by the book, no exceptions”. Seems like you are for an exception.

Where would you draw the line with a priest violating the seal of the confession?
 
Thank you, yes in protecting children.
How about protecting a spouse from STDs, can he call your wife and tell her you’re cheating? Or protecting people from theft, can he call your employer and tell him you’re embezzling? He can either break the seal of confession at any time or never. Canon Law says ‘never’.
 
Thank you, yes in protecting children.
You obviously do not know your faith.
The seal of the confessional is absolute. The priest can never, under any circumstances reveal anything confessed to him. However, the priest may make absolution of such a sin conditional on the perp turning himself into the authorities, just like making a thief repay what he/she stole.
 
You obviously do not know your faith.
The seal of the confessional is absolute. The priest can never, under any circumstances reveal anything confessed to him. However, the priest may make absolution of such a sin conditional on the perp turning himself into the authorities, just like making a thief repay what he/she stole.
I am for protecting kids #1 before some red tape rules by our religion allows pedophiles to roam unpunished. If that makes me a bad Catholic so be it,
 
I am for protecting kids #1 before some red tape rules by our religion allows pedophiles to roam unpunished. If that makes me a bad Catholic so be it,
The seal of confession is not “red tape rules”. Besides, confession is a judicial process in the court of the Kingdom of God. What is presented there is not subject to the judicial process of the kingdom of men.
 
The seal of confession is not “red tape rules”. Besides, confession is a judicial process in the court of the Kingdom of God. What is presented there is not subject to the judicial process of the kingdom of men.
I don’t buy your argument.

We will agree to disagree, I feel the Catholic church needs to do everything it can to help kids being raped not hiding behind laws. Especially with the labels it has received in the past about kids and abuse.
 
I don’t buy your argument.

We will agree to disagree, I feel the Catholic church needs to do everything it can to help kids being raped not hiding behind laws. Especially with the labels it has received in the past about kids and abuse.
No I will not agree to disagree. Sorry, but the seal of confession is inviolable. To be a Catholic, you have to understand that. The Church is the Body of Christ and thus not subject to the laws of man.
 
I am for protecting kids #1 before some red tape rules by our religion allows pedophiles to roam unpunished. If that makes me a bad Catholic so be it,
Consider this-if the Church were to have an exception to the inviolability of the confession for sexual abuse of children, then who would confess this sin? With the inviolability of confession, when someone guilty of abusing children confesses, the priest actually has the opportunity to urge the offender to turn himself in (although it’s my understanding that the priest cannot require this), to seek treatment, to avoid contact with potential victims, etc. Without the inviolability, no one will confess, and priests will lose these opportunities.
 
I don’t buy your argument.

We will agree to disagree, I feel the Catholic church needs to do everything it can to help kids being raped not hiding behind laws. Especially with the labels it has received in the past about kids and abuse.
So what happens if someone confesses to abuse, the priest reports him, and the person confessing it denies it? Certainly words spoken in a confessional are not legal proof of anything, but if people knew that confessing sins was not completely confidential, it could quickly clear out the confessionals. Besides this, there would be some who distrusted the priest because they would believe the person who confessed.

And as another poster asked, where do we draw the line? There are a lot of people that need protecting in the world, why just choose kids who are sexually abused? At least, as someone else had said, this way maybe a person would come forward in confession and be encouraged to go to the police himself.
 
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