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mikeledes
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Why doesn’t the Church use red wine for the Blood of Christ? Doesn’t red wine visually convey the Blood of Christ better than any other wine?
God Bless,
Michael
God Bless,
Michael
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baltobetsy
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The only requirement is that the wine be made of grapes alone. Yes, many think that red wine would be a fuller sign of the Blood of our Lord. Many others think that lighter wines wash out of linens more easily. It’s completely up to the parish. If you want your parish to use red wine, why not ask?
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Phemie
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We use red wine and the woman who washes our altar linens would kiss the ground if we switched to white. I personally prefer red for the visual it provides.
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benedictgal
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Here is what Redemptionis Sacramentum says regarding wine for liturgical use:
The color is not specified. It just has to follow the prescribed norms. I hope this helps.
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jpjd
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Every parish I’ve ever been in has used red wine. I’ve never seen white wine used. Maybe it’s a regional thing?
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benedictgal
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In my diocese, it depends on the pastor. At my dad’s parish and at the Cathedral, they use white wine. At my parish, they use red. It’s just a matter of personal taste, I suppose.
I wonder if it’s permissible to use oxyclean for the linens, provided that the water is emptied into the ground, as one of the previous posts indicated that there might be concerns about the stains.
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Phemie
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It’s what we use. The linens have been purified before we reach that stage so the water doesn’t have to be poured in the ground.
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Church_Militant
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Is it possible that some priests are concerned that children might wig out if they looked into the chalice and saw what really looked like blood in there?
I wouldn’t have any problem at all with it (in fact Mike asked me about this I and I just :shrug:ed ) because I know a miracles has taken place and what that really is.
I wouldn’t have any problem at all with it (in fact Mike asked me about this I and I just :shrug:ed ) because I know a miracles has taken place and what that really is.
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SenorBells
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Fortified wines are also prohibited such as sparkling wine (sugar added) and port (distilled spirits added.)
Common table wines are just fine as long as nothing artificial has been added to them. Still, some parishes spend fairly good money on “sacramental wine” from religious supply houses for unknown reasons.
Common table wines are just fine as long as nothing artificial has been added to them. Still, some parishes spend fairly good money on “sacramental wine” from religious supply houses for unknown reasons.
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JimR-OCDS
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There was a monastery that produced the wine that the last parish I belonged to used. It tasted so good, I had to find out what it was. Its tasted much like Madera. Anyway, thats how I found out that a monastery had produced it. That was years ago and I’m not sure if they still use the same wine.
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johnnykins
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Before VII the standard (at least in the Boston area) seemed to be WHITE wine - because it was easier to clean.
Only after VII did I ever see red wine. Now red seems to be the norm. Of course maybe red is used now because, as a rule, cheap red wine is much better than cheap white wine - and with the congregation partaking in the cup something better than the awful white wine historically used is demanded by the “troops”.
On another thread someone suggested that white wine was preferable for another reason - that transubstantiation is not manifest to our senses so using white wine rather than red better allows us to understand it isn’t wine at all any more after consecration - red wine more easily allows us to fictionalize the matter. Not sure I really buy the argument, but it made me stop and consider the issue - which is a good thing.
In any event, I would opt for the practicality of white wine.
Only after VII did I ever see red wine. Now red seems to be the norm. Of course maybe red is used now because, as a rule, cheap red wine is much better than cheap white wine - and with the congregation partaking in the cup something better than the awful white wine historically used is demanded by the “troops”.
On another thread someone suggested that white wine was preferable for another reason - that transubstantiation is not manifest to our senses so using white wine rather than red better allows us to understand it isn’t wine at all any more after consecration - red wine more easily allows us to fictionalize the matter. Not sure I really buy the argument, but it made me stop and consider the issue - which is a good thing.
In any event, I would opt for the practicality of white wine.
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lak611
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I sometimes go to Mass at a shrine parish in my diocese. They use white wine. All the other parishes I have been to use red wine.
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Newbie2
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We use red wine and the woman who washes our altar linens would kiss the ground if we switched to white. QUOTE]
We use red, but I’ve seen white used.
Does anyone know what type might have been used at the instution of the Eucharist by Jesus? I’m woefully ignorant of the holy land types of grapes.
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Joan_M
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It’s not so much what type of grapes there are in the Holy Land as were the skins included in the fermentation or not. If you ferment the grapes and the skins you will get red wine. If you omit the skins, the wine will be white.
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Andruschak
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At St. Philomena Church in Carson, California, the wine used is Rose. Trust me. I carried in the Carafe for the 2007 Easter Vigil, a few minutes after I had been confirmed. And I am a recovered alcoholic, sober 23 years in AA.
It seemed to be a family rose wine, the kind you would get in any family restaurant that served house wines.
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SenorBells
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For an early morning Christmas Mass a few years ago I placed the chalices in the refrigerator the night before.
When preparing for Mass that AM I substituted the contents of a couple of WELL chilled bottles of a good vintage of Pouilly-Fuissé for our sacramental box wine.
I could actually see big smiles on peoples’ faces as they received the Precious Blood. Many said the difference reminded them just how special of a day Christ’s birthday is.
Those sorta things are fun to do…
When preparing for Mass that AM I substituted the contents of a couple of WELL chilled bottles of a good vintage of Pouilly-Fuissé for our sacramental box wine.
I could actually see big smiles on peoples’ faces as they received the Precious Blood. Many said the difference reminded them just how special of a day Christ’s birthday is.
Those sorta things are fun to do…
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Sr_Sally
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ABostonCatholic
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My parish in Boston uses white wine.
Other parishes I’ve been to (mostly in TX) use either red or white.
It doesn’t matter to me. It all becomes to Blood of Christ.
Other parishes I’ve been to (mostly in TX) use either red or white.
It doesn’t matter to me. It all becomes to Blood of Christ.
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Eli4n4
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The wine used at our church looks like white wine. Isn’t there only one specific type of wine allowed and is it not a dark red color? I really hope I’m wrong…because this seems to be the first really holy priest at our church in a really long time. Is there a white wine that is allowed? It looks really dark but it’s still yellow, not red and not even blush looking.
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johnnykins
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Natural grape wine with no additives - it may be white or red. Before VII it was usual to have white wine because it did not stain.
Many people actually prefer the use of white wine because it is not red - the color of blood since we cannot by our senses tell there is a change. It emphasizes for such folks that the change does not depend on our senses. Others like red to remind us that it becomes the Sacred Blood.
I think the practicality of white makes sense, but otherwise don’t care.
Many people actually prefer the use of white wine because it is not red - the color of blood since we cannot by our senses tell there is a change. It emphasizes for such folks that the change does not depend on our senses. Others like red to remind us that it becomes the Sacred Blood.
I think the practicality of white makes sense, but otherwise don’t care.
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