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if u engage in masturbation, but stop before the desired affect is recieved, [if any at all] is it still a mortal sin? i told myself, " you dont have to do this" and i stopped just in time.

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For a sin to be a sin you have to commit it, You stopped short…I assume the reason you stopped short was because you didn’t want to sin. So, reason would indicate that you did not sin.
 
For a sin to be a sin you have to commit it, You stopped short…I assume the reason you stopped short was because you didn’t want to sin. So, reason would indicate that you did not sin.
thanks for answering! i think u are right…its just that i dont know if i stopped in time…i definitely stopped my self from enjoying it…i tried to end it right there…and i felt terrible right after wandering if i was on time. thanks…
 
You should probably ask a priest about this in confession, just to be sure.

Generally speaking, if one begins committing a serious sin and stops right in the middle of the act (even before fulfilling its intent), one would commit a mortal sin (provided if one does the action with sufficient knowledge and consent, of course).
 
It doesn’t hurt to go confess it anywyays. Furthermore you show remorse and that’s the first step. Just remember to go to confession and confess it.
 
if u engage in masturbation, but stop before the desired affect is recieved, [if any at all] is it still a mortal sin? i told myself, " you dont have to do this" and i stopped just in time.

thsnk you very much
I’d confess it to ease my conscience, but would also feel pride on stopping. That is probably the hardest time to make a conscious choice for purity.

It is akin to planning on commiting a crime like robbing a bank, driving to the bank, and pulling off the road before you get there and deciding against it. It is best if you never conceive it, but you did IN FACT stop commiting the action.
 
Let your priest tell you if it was mortal. Sin is in the will, and none of us plunking on keyboards can possible discern that or any other mitigating factors.

Consider this…

Let’s say you were a recovering alcoholic. One day you poured a drink, but you dumped it out before you drank it. It was in your will to take a drink, but you overcame the temptation.

On the other hand, let’s say you just took a sip of the drink and then dumped it out. This might lead you to think it was okay to just take a sip from time to time, which then leads you to take more than a sip and tie one on for old times sake.

In both scenarios, it is in the will to drink. That is where the work must be done. We need Christ to help us redeem our will or at least better deal with the temptations as they come along.

My point is (I think I have one) search your will that led you to want to commit this sin, and discuss this with your priest in the confessional.
 
Ive had a long problem with this issue and i have tried to keep away from it and i have for the last month or month and a half i think about a month, but today i ahev had a thought is it possible to masturbate without actually using your hands or rubbing against something? I know it might sound a bit wrong but i guess this might be teh place to ask since im a bit worried i might have fallen into a sin.
The habbit i have is umm it hard to explain but you know when i guy gets all frustrated or something and then like temses really hard and your private part feels liek it gets sort of pulled in and when you release the tension it feels like it gets released now i ahev a habbit of doing this without actually being frustarted or anything just over and over again its wierd but true only when i think of doing it because the urge comes and teh longer i stay i stsrta to feel i dont knoe LOL maybe like someone who needs to smoke but cant but i dont know what this feels like because i dont smoke so i do it sometimes and its not a very recent thing i remember doing it a few years back not sure if it was teh same but maybe like in 2002 when i was 10 but i dont know if it wasd the same thing but im worried if its a way to masturbate like doing it over and over and somehow making yourself complete it by doing this as it well what i think might rub against your underwear but i dont know if its possible i went to confession yesterday and i dont know if i can go next Sat because i might work and after i thoguht about this i did do it a few times just to see but i really dont know if it could happend i tried doing it fast like a few times steraight through and i didnt get a reaction you get when you are masturbating i really REALLY need to know as i cant get it out of my mind if you dont feel comfortable posting this here please use PM to me because i really am scared i have commited another mortal sin.
Thanks for all answers!
Please if someone could answer.
 
Anyone Please i really need to know. 😦
I know what you mean, i would not do it. If you are trying to achive the effect of masturbation by some other means, even by dwelling on lustfull thoughts and trying to ejaculate, i think it would be a sin. It is the act of trying to achive sexual pleasure outside of marriage that is sinfull, by whatever means you do it. I reccomend you discuss it with your priest.

I guess it is like saying ‘i can get all the sexual pleasure i want aslong as i don’t actually masturbate’ and ‘well i am not actually touching anything so it’s not a sin’. Thisis incorrect, it is the intent that counts. If you intend to get sexual pleasure outside of marridge, it is outside of its true purpose and is therefore a sin, this includes lustfull thoughts etc.

It is sinfull if you try to get sexual pleasure by other means (this includes what you described) even if you don’t do the actual ‘act’ of masturbation. I know it is a difficult problem to overcome, but doing things that are not masturbation, but achive the same result will only make the problem worse.

Masturbation gets easier to resist, in time. I cannot say whether what you did was a mortal sin or not, but i would certainly stop doing it.

I may have misunderstood you though, were you trying to achive the effects of masturbation by some other means?
 
CCC 2352 “By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure.” So yes, rubbing on something or the muscle-tension movements you described would fall into this category, since these are deliberate acts.

St. Michael the Archangel, help coleraine in his battle for purity!
 
Hmm i see but i have never thought of it is a pleasure it gets REALLY annoying just like a habbit but it gets annoying and i dont notice any pleasure in it its just a habbit to me it could be true but i think it would take ALONG time for you to get the same reaction as doing it the way most people that do it do it but i still feel guilt and i will go to confession and not do it as its hard to explain and i will maybe never know but i will presume it is a sin there is no harm in going to confession.
I do get nervous but i feel much better afterwards.
Thanks Anyways
 
Ok im over it I have chosen to go to confession on saturday anyways but i need some help afterwards ussually i get scared after confession that I will commit it again it becomes a much greater chance of it happening when i think about it but really im freightened afterwards because im worried it will come back in a few hours and not be able to go recivi the Eucharist on Sunday mass what are some helpfull things i can prevent this with and afterwards what can I do just overall I know I need to pray alot to St Michael the Archangel, I also need to pray regulary, Go to church not miss Sunday Mass which I do all but i know I need to try hard aswell what otehr thigns can I add to this I have Praying,Going to church,confession.
Is it alright to use like things like a Job to get your mind of it and a less likely chance of doing it again and similar things? and any other helpfull points.
I also get sometimes get scared that I might say something about God which he wouldnt like and the more I think about it the more thoughts I dont want start comming like not thoughts where you think on your own but things and words comming into your head and you saying No I dont want this and the more is lasts the more I get scared that I will be punished for it even though I WOULD NEVER EVER SAY OR THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME IN about God who Iove and Belive in.
They are dumb things like you know what people say who are really against what we belive in those type of things in my mind but I dont want them and they come when I get scared I will think of it or say it?
I want to know will i be punished for this after I die but to tell you the truth I dont want it and I would never say or take a minute to think about this especially when I start praying to God I start worrying this will happend even though I wouldnt say it or take time to think about these things like when you ussually think about things?
Please Im also worried on this Issue.
Big Thanks!
 
Dazzi, if it’s any comfort, some women struggle with these kinds of things, too. It’s not just younger guys – many if not most of us tend to be weak in the flesh. You’re not alone in your battle here, even though it’s a very private thing for each person who suffers with this.

A wise priest once told me that confession helps us to receive the grace from God to stop sinning. So many times we can’t stop it ourselves, but God working through us can do anything! The devil wants us to believe that we are hopeless, that we are in bondage to our “pet sins,” but Jesus can and will heal us! Sometimes we have to just give up and turn the whole thing over to Him. So keep on going to confession! Victory over this will likely come in baby-steps, but as long as those steps are in the right direction, that’s great!

If you are worried about sinning again on Saturday between the time you go to confession and the time of Sunday Mass, maybe you could go to the Saturday vigil instead? Keep yourself busy on Saturday afternoon between the time of confession and Mass, and you won’t have the opportunity to fall into sin before you receive the Eucharist. If for some reason you must wait until Sunday (like you have to go with your family or something), the same thing applies, just you’ll have to keep busy for a longer period of time. Physical activity helps – and if you can get out in public and get some exercise, that will keep you out of your room alone where you might tend to slip up.

It is absolutely OK, and in fact a very good thing, to find other things to occupy your mind and distract you from your flesh. Our Lady’s Rosary is a powerful weapon in these struggles. If you don’t think you are up to saying the whole thing, start with one decade and work up from there. If your mind wanders, just bring your focus back to your prayers and don’t get upset over it. This wandering-mind stuff happens to all of us at times. It might help to have a visual aid to keep your mind focused – I like the virtual rosary found here: www.virtualrosary.org. You can download it and run it anytime.

As far as those bad thoughts about God and the Church, that’s the devil at work. He isn’t happy that you are trying to live a pure and holy life, so he is giving you evil thoughts, even blasphemous ones at times. But it says in the Bible, “Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” When one of those thoughts pops into your mind, say to yourself, out loud if you have to, “Blessed be the Name of Jesus” or another short prayer, and say it over and over until the thoughts go away. God loves you and knows that you are not thinking these things on purpose! Remember, for a sin to be mortal, there has to be full consent of the will, and you are not consenting to these thoughts.

May God and His holy angels help you, strengthen you, and give you the grace to lead a holy and pure life. St. Michael, pray for us!
 
Dazzi, if it’s any comfort, some women struggle with these kinds of things, too. It’s not just younger guys – many if not most of us tend to be weak in the flesh. You’re not alone in your battle here, even though it’s a very private thing for each person who suffers with this.
👋 some of us women indeed - and in the interests of helping others I don’t mind admitting I’m one of them. And more-or-less come through the other side of the struggle too, God willing.

Your idea of ‘pleasure’ is a different thing from mere sexual arousal and release - which definitely appears to have been the intended purpose of your ahem activity.

Go to confession - preferably as soon as possible after every occasion that you commit this sin. If that means every day and you have priests available to hear your confession by appointment every day then go every day. Firstly your immortal soul is too important not to. Secondly it’ll be both a REAL strong incentive and help to stopping.

Every time you feel temptation - PRAY! Place yourself and your temptations at the foot of the Cross, unite your struggles and sufferings with Jesus’ own struggles and sufferings in his life. And trust that His grace is more powerful than any temptation you may face. It helps amazingly.
 
Well I went to confession today.

But tonight As I was preparing to sit down on the couch and as I sat down I felt the same feeling like what I was doing before on purpose or because I was like addicted to it.
Am I in a mortal sin now?
I dont see that this was an act on puropse what do you guys think?
I think maybe I should just forget it and move on and stop being so worried about it?
 
Just to clear it up as I was sitting down I didnt force it to happend it just happend because my mind wasn’t on it and it happend as I was sitting down or adjusting to sit down.
 
Do not worry about the last post.
I have remembered something this happend at school and I want to find a right way to say it to the priest.
A few months ago some guy (My friend) was asking me wether I would “Do” Some girls I said yes and I said no to some.
Then after I did the same, I was asking the same guys and maybe a few others the question mainly was “would you do her?”
The “DO” Means as you know “Sex”.
What can I say to the priest which woud be the best way to say it and to be certian you have said the right thing?

Like would any of these be alright:
I said I would Have Sex with someone?
I talked about sex?

I talked about girls rudely or in an (name removed by moderator)olite way?
What are some better ways to say it?
Thanks
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